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post Nov 20 2013, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Nov 20 2013, 04:48 PM)
None. Do the savings in pure savings like bank FD or ASNB, never in insurance.

When you look at insurance, you are buying the coverage associated to it. The cover is NOT FREE and RM 100 that you put in perhaps RM60 will be used to buy you the cover.

This is why if you choose to surrender the plan in one year, if you put in RM1200 per year, you will only get back RM 400 maybe lesser.

Do not get brain washed by insurance agents selling and promising you high returns. At least for bank, you can withdraw it after one year. For insurance savings, you will need to wait a minimum of 20 years before you can touch that money.

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post Nov 20 2013, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(dblstandardsux @ Nov 20 2013, 06:06 PM)
Insurance is NOT an investment!
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:26 PM

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Insurance less for investment, but good for endowment.. smile.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:31 PM

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insurance for INVESTMENT.

That alone spells trouble.
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(quikstep @ Nov 20 2013, 06:31 PM)
insurance for INVESTMENT.

That alone spells trouble.
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:05 PM

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y now most of the insurance in malaysia is term life insurance? dun hv whole life insurance one meh??
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:48 PM

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Insure against risks you cannot afford to happen, such as the loss of your ability to earn an income.

For investment, do it yourself. Never mix with insurance because they do not mix. Nothing is free in this world and everything must have a price.

Not wanting to brag, but I just spend less than 30 mins a week reading up on finance and economics, and my investments are performing way better than any managed funds or savings plans in the market. There are many advantages to doing your own research. At the end of the day, you are smarter and you learn through the mistakes.

Think about it, is your 30 mins per week worth more than the fees you are paying to the agent, insurer and the fund manager?
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 20 2013, 07:48 PM)
Insure against risks you cannot afford to happen, such as the loss of your ability to earn an income.

For investment, do it yourself.  Never mix with insurance because they do not mix.  Nothing is free in this world and everything must have a price.

Not wanting to brag, but I just spend less than 30 mins a week reading up on finance and economics, and my investments are performing way better than any managed funds or savings plans in the market.  There are many advantages to doing your own research.  At the end of the day, you are smarter and you learn through the mistakes.

Think about it, is your 30 mins per week worth more than the fees you are paying to the agent, insurer and the fund manager?
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(bee993 @ Nov 20 2013, 12:54 PM)
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 20 2013, 07:56 PM)
I think of myself as a learner, never a teacher.

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I guess u main stock..Teach me invest pls. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(bee993 @ Nov 20 2013, 01:09 PM)
I guess u main stock..Teach me invest pls. notworthy.gif
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I don't "play". I invest in good solid companies with bright future prospects.
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 20 2013, 08:17 PM)
I don't "play".  I invest in good solid companies with bright future prospects.
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post Nov 20 2013, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 20 2013, 07:48 PM)
Insure against risks you cannot afford to happen, such as the loss of your ability to earn an income.

For investment, do it yourself.  Never mix with insurance because they do not mix.  Nothing is free in this world and everything must have a price.

Not wanting to brag, but I just spend less than 30 mins a week reading up on finance and economics, and my investments are performing way better than any managed funds or savings plans in the market.  There are many advantages to doing your own research.  At the end of the day, you are smarter and you learn through the mistakes.

Think about it, is your 30 mins per week worth more than the fees you are paying to the agent, insurer and the fund manager?
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Yup well said my friend, well said
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Nov 20 2013, 06:48 PM)
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seriously, my exgf father damn tulan for buying investment linked products. money better in epf.

at least i dunno any success story. pls correct me if wrong.
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 20 2013, 07:48 PM)
Insure against risks you cannot afford to happen, such as the loss of your ability to earn an income.

For investment, do it yourself.  Never mix with insurance because they do not mix.  Nothing is free in this world and everything must have a price.

Not wanting to brag, but I just spend less than 30 mins a week reading up on finance and economics, and my investments are performing way better than any managed funds or savings plans in the market.  There are many advantages to doing your own research.  At the end of the day, you are smarter and you learn through the mistakes.

Think about it, is your 30 mins per week worth more than the fees you are paying to the agent, insurer and the fund manager?
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Nov 20 2013, 04:48 PM)
None. Do the savings in pure savings like bank FD or ASNB, never in insurance.

When you look at insurance, you are buying the coverage associated to it. The cover is NOT FREE and RM 100 that you put in perhaps RM60 will be used to buy you the cover.

This is why if you choose to surrender the plan in one year, if you put in RM1200 per year, you will only get back RM 400 maybe lesser.

Do not get brain washed by insurance agents selling and promising you high returns. At least for bank, you can withdraw it after one year. For insurance savings, you will need to wait a minimum of 20 years before you can touch that money.

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damn honest wei.

alot of agent will kill u... though ayam not an agent
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(quikstep @ Nov 20 2013, 09:56 PM)
seriously, my exgf father damn tulan for buying investment linked products. money better in epf.

at least i dunno any success story. pls correct me if wrong.
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Even if the plan is called ILP it is not for investment la ... doh.gif

With riders that consumes insurance charges like medical, life, CI, accidents cover, disability/ci income added to the plan, how can it be called for investment?

Go read my blog if you want to learn about insurance... tongue.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(jay @ Nov 20 2013, 07:05 PM)
y now most of the insurance in malaysia is term life insurance? dun hv whole life insurance one meh??
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Whole life still got bro, it depends on clients needs and mostly age. For younger clients most agents prefer to give ILP because it has the flexibility to be upgraded (provided healthy).

For example if a single person who just started work just need a basic insurance with medical, he surely cannot afford to pay much. Also a single person does not have responsibility likeus parents has to a newborn child.

Giving a single person Rm1m cover is kind of ridiculous, unless he is rich and afford it. But if he is rich and can afford it, why does he need insurance, as he can afford to pay for whatever that comes to him? Fikir2kan thumbup.gif

For whole life, it is not that easy to be upgraded as there is a lot of restrictions. For example the cash calue allocation will need to be resetted etc
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(endau02 @ Nov 20 2013, 10:00 PM)
damn honest wei.

alot of agent will kill u... though ayam not an agent
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Then ayam have to buy more insurance liau laugh.gif

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