Dunno why SC not std... Here ori only 1.5k

Mine all inclusine is 1230. The seal changed. The seal is only RM 60.

Those who thinks Kimchi is junkshit just did not have the chance to drive one. Love the car. Never regretted getting one. I however have to admit that the engine is less refined, the rear absorber is less steady as compared to T&H.

I think you misunderstood. I did not question the quietness in the cabin for our car. What I meant is that how the engine accelerated when you press on the pedal. T&H Altis and Honda 2.0 does feel smoother.

Power not really. Depends on how your drive. My unker driving style tasted no difference.

The true feeling is that the pedal feels more compact when you step on it. Our car feels more kosong under the feet.

None the less, love the car.

I never dragged with any of the car before from standstill. Also, I have the potent booster hence my light weight right leg cannot justify the whole scenario.

even the stabilizer link? 
of cos la....
they include +- another 10k for 'that'....per car. 
i think if u do it 'manually'..it can.

kia forte auto gear ratio changing mechanism is so...
barely can feel 3rd gear.

Thanks for a speedy feedback.

Major breakdown they will argue cause still under warranty ma, where can compare to vios, 10-20 year old still less problem etc ( of course la, kereta kosong in my opinion, how many things can go wrong la)
And about the stigma, korean car last time always has many problem, and with the recent test drive of Santa Fe, compared to CX-5 and Fortuner, lets just say family killed Kimchi even harder after that. 

I can live with the 'common issue', a good after market set should at least settle the rear absorber issue for awhile, and being a spirited driver, those are among the 'upgrade list' I have.
Spare part wise I believe will be more expensive compared to Toyota, however my argue would be it won't be like 50% extra etc, more like 10-20% range (I randomly pluck this figure from the sky in hopes I can pull through).

As for the 'lemon car', yes, hopefully I won't be that 'lucky', buying a secondhand unit doesn't really reduces this chance as people with lemon unit will definitely try to get rid of it. But I can only think of try ur best to prevent (get mechanic to look at it and read more on what are the issues with Forte, thats why I'm already doing slow reading now, buying in Q3/Q4)

And yes, lets be honest, it looks damn good!! That and the functions the car offer, spacious good for high speeds.

I'm all for it actually, but you know, gotta make sure try to know more and more. For example, if I know ABC will breakdown, and I mentioned it now, when it does breakdown, family can't say much, expected already, and I've 'factored' it in when choosing Forte.

Compared to not knowing/guessing, whenever something breaks down, family will always: See!! I told you Kimchi bla bla bla bla!! T & H sure won't give you these prob and it won't happen so often bla bla bla bla..........
Nothing is perfect and I would just wanna know so I can set their expectation and let them know EVERYTHING. haha. Tired of all the T&H.

   

Yes, these are all useful info for me. I guess I'm still pushing through to get a used Forte, but family will still insist on the old reliable Vios. In my head Forte is perfect (as long as one understands that wear and tear is part of life), and they have come a long way since the 'good old days'. People should really stop hating kimchi for the history, I mean yes, you heard a lot of bad stories about kimchis but I have two solid questions: 1) Have you yourself experience it before? 2) Have you heard similar amount of cases from Forte users?

I'm even thinking of finding some numbers to prove my ground:
            2012        2013    2014
Toyota  105k        91k    102k 
Kia            4k          7k      10k

I remember reading sales figure for forte 2013 and vios 2013. Cant recall where and having difficulty to get this data.

Thanks, will definitely call up the SC to cross check with the service book. I mean I am allowed to do that right? Don't think they can pakat with SC to cheat me right