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 Tips To Make Your Fan To Reach The Highest Speed, @ To Make Your Fan Slower & Less Noisy

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post Sep 3 2006, 12:32 AM

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Bro "Sniper On The Roof"
Help me please... icon_question.gif
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post Sep 22 2006, 12:01 PM

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Ehh?
No one interested in this topic aa? sweat.gif
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post Sep 27 2006, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Sep 25 2006, 05:54 PM)
3A is crazy for a VR..even 1A is tough for cheap transistor circuits, even then they need heatsinks  shocking.gif Look in your PSU if you don't believe me-those are costly, EFFICIENT transistors-power MOSFETs to be precise, and they still need heatsinks (though they handle like 20x more current than the cheap transistors we get at the electronics shop).

Most resistors can handle 1W output across the resistor, VRs are notably lower. Quick estimate calulation-5V on fan means 7V taken over on resistor..whole circuit probably pulls 0.5A when fan is spinning slowly at 5V..comes to about 3-4W on the VR-sizzle  sweat.gif .... VRs probably only suitable for fans drawing well below 1A when at full speed, at 5V probably only 0.1W so VR can probably take it. No way to know till try it out..guess have to redouble efforts to design & build transistor (<1A) or PWM switching (1-3A) controllers..sigh..thought it would work..didn't have time to do the calulations earlier..forgot that most of the noisy fans needing fan controllers pull 1A++..

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Oh btw, I've heard that fans can still not spin if PWM is set to too low a speed. Fan just vibrates in place...pulse not long enough to give power to turn..
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***Can help me build a PWM voltage controller for my Nidec Beta 5 fan? tongue.gif

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post Sep 30 2006, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Sep 29 2006, 03:47 PM)
No le...just happen to be studying electronics as part of my physics course..also like to mess around. Anyway I'll try building it first, then I'll get back and give my results..dunno where to find time to do it also..exams coming soon  sweat.gif . Basically need an adjustable timing circuit (can rig a 555 circuit 4 a few ringgit) to give pulses to switching MOSFET or JFET which will act as an electrially controlled power switch turing on and off hundreds/thousands of times per second (FET-field effect transistors, sounds cool, but they're still just basic transistors, not some fancy energy thingy). The longer the switch is closed compared to when its open, the faster the fan will spin. Have parts for the timing circuit already, will try these few days when free, but need to do research on FETs (gotta dig up them datasheets-sigh, easy to find low Amp mosfet, but tough to pick good ones) before I rig one to the timing circuit.
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I don't even understand even a word you're saying here... laugh.gif
But, what the heck, i'll just wait for the results of the incoming PWM fan controller then... wub.gif
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post Sep 30 2006, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Sep 30 2006, 04:33 AM)
agreed...

too technical already.... halfway thru ur paragraph i got so blur i could barely see the words laugh.gif notworthy.gif

anyway...concentrate on ur exams first... then later screw around with the controller. all the best with exams dude thumbup.gif
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Yerp, what lelaki gila says is right...
Concentrate on you're studies first, then build a PWM fan controller for me later... icon_idea.gif

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post Oct 3 2006, 07:04 AM

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So...

So...

Can you do it? drool.gif

Can you do it? drool.gif
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post Oct 4 2006, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Oct 4 2006, 09:55 AM)
I'll give it a shot, probably this weekend I'll get back to you, hopefully end of this month I can figure out how to make enough to sell  biggrin.gif . Should be quite cheap, probably way below RM100 for a multi fan control. Thinking of a way to make system monitors also (rpm, temp, voltage), already know how to make the circuit, just a matter of trying out & improving the circuit for better accuracy.
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Multi fan controller?
I just want a fan controller to be used for one fan only... sweat.gif
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post Oct 4 2006, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(x800 @ Oct 4 2006, 03:41 PM)
lowenhi, i just did some calculations.found out that connecting the potentiometer in parallel with the load cant do the job..any other wat to do a fan controller which maintains the voltage but varies the current w/o using PWM?
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I can't understand even a bit... rclxub.gif
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post Oct 4 2006, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(x800 @ Oct 4 2006, 08:40 PM)
forget what i posted earlier shawty..i had a little misunderstanding of the concept.. sweat.gif tongue.gif
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Erk?
Why did u delete that post? blink.gif

I didn't understand then let it be la... thumbup.gif

Just go on you guys discuss those things...
I'll just wait for the final product leh... tongue.gif
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post Oct 5 2006, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(xen0 @ Oct 5 2006, 09:48 PM)
hey..how about my CM XDream III???
any idea how to increase the speed from 2k to 6k???
i dont care the noise anymore..
my case is sound proof
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Change the fan to Delta Focusflow... blush.gif
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post Oct 17 2006, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Oct 15 2006, 06:07 PM)
Got all the stuff to built the PWM controller..hehe..stay tuned..also some stuff to build a PSU tester/loader..

Sorry it took a while, and sorry for such a short post (may consider I'm spamming, but in a hurry-PC down, so have to go CC)
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post Nov 6 2006, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Oct 23 2006, 08:47 PM)
hehe biggrin.gif thanks..
b4 tht i tot everything is safe and easy to handle.. becoz just a small smaal fan.. runing 12V DC also (i think its little). Haha proof tht i was wrong  lolz

better just leave it.. dont play too much with it, as long as it can run then ok ledi...
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Or you could probably make a switch to turn the fan on and off as you like... thumbup.gif

A switch is not a very hard thing to be done right? brows.gif
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post Nov 13 2006, 09:42 PM

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Some extra guide to make you're fan run at a speed that is over the maximum speed you're fan is set to run on... laugh.gif

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use the power from ur molex as usual from the +12v (yellow wire) line..

as for the fan's ground...take the ground from ur 20/24 pin cable on ur PSU.

use any of the "-" line as ground...just choose which one u want...

eg.

+12v & -3.3V will give u 15.3V.
+12v & -5V will give u 17V.
+12v & -12V will give u 24V.


take note that ur fans WILL die sooner. laugh.gif


This guide is a courtesy of mADMAN... icon_rolleyes.gif

Salute "Lelaki Gila"... notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Nov 13 2006, 09:45 PM
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post Nov 14 2006, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 13 2006, 09:56 PM)
salute to me for wat??? salute to shah81 la....

he mentioned it before here...its just that i remembered what he said tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Owh, really?

Salute to shah81 then... notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Nov 13 2006, 11:35 PM)
I need to do some correction for you, there is NO -3.3v line, only a +3.3v line..
Might as well I give the full list

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Owh, thanks mate!!! wink.gif

That sure help us alot in understanding it... cool.gif
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post Nov 21 2006, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Nov 20 2006, 07:13 PM)
one thing i not so clear, how we estimate the fan speed after undervolting it at 7v or 5v... sry for noob question, kinda lack of knowledge bout this.... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Use Speedfan or PC Wizard 2006.

Those softwares will show the speed of you're fan... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 3 2006, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(beastfreak @ Dec 3 2006, 01:40 PM)
may i know where can i get this item?
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Ask this guy:

tnghian
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=3961
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post Dec 3 2006, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(SusiE^QueeN @ Dec 3 2006, 09:04 PM)
i think change the transistor in the fan's electronis board....then the fan will spin very fast
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And that will kill you're motherboard very fast... laugh.gif

Not to forget that'll kill the motherboard's manufacturing warranty... laugh.gif

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