Boss, I am not much familiar with Semenyih but maybe the local folks could be true. Never ever rare study until SEH is launched.

But for me, since few plots of very huge land by both SEH and EM are just next to each other. I would say, all abang adik. Instead, I reckon any housing precincts nearer to commercial plot would be an edge.

Ex. I cant say Puchong is better location due to its size. Some may argue Bdr Kinrara is better due to nearer to KL, some may argue Bdr Puteri is the bestest and some may argue Taman Tasik / Putra / Puchong Prima is better due to nearer to Cyberjaya and price lower. Lol.

Current EM Precinct 1-3 also could be advantage due to next to SEH which is developing and Phase 1-2 would be completed once EM is VP by next 3 years.

SEH advantage could be nearer to Tesco and Kajang. Meanwhile, EM is further down and nearer to Bangi hence nearer to Plus, NSE and KLIA. Both have their own entry and exit to Kajang / Seremban highway.

Gotta spend my week to study SEH and EM before I could comment further. And waiting EM finalized master plan.

Aiyo, i using phone very leceh leh. Need to go here n there n load load load. Lol.

Chris gor,
No need to load anymore loh.
The prettiest gal already show up here to hentam people.

Hahaha.

She must has her own reasons why to hentam ppl here but I dunno bcz unable to catch so many of SEH thread. Moved too fast until I couldnt read all.

I duwan load d. I wait launching day n go EM gallery and hunt better. Lol.

Bro Chris, I don't think EM is nearer to Plus, unless the expresslink that connects to Bangi is confirmed...

Currently, the accesibility to EM seems still vague (as the interchange to LEKAS still not available), though I have been told there will be a direct road coming out from EM and joining the main Jalan Semenyih. Currently, we only can observe EM site from the PARC and not sure which road will lead us to the site.

SEH is easily noticeable as it is located just beside the main Jalan Semenyih. Everyone pass through the main road can't miss it, that's why serve as the new landmark of Semenyih now...

This post has been edited by samkps: Apr 9 2014, 03:11 PM

Chris kor,

I am like WALL-E, only hentam waste, human is excluded anyway

Sam boss. Thanks for clarify.

Let me check back the map to comment further bcz I cant remember clearly.

I suppose that the EM has two new interchanged which is entry and exit from Lekas ( just near to Jalan Bangi ) directly.

I unsure about the Jalan Semenyih path.

While, if entry to SEH is noticeable then EM current phases also more or less not big issues for me bcz both separated by less than a km ( if not mistaken bcz I not familiar with SEH master plan ). EM main entrance to SEH is just separated by 300mtr linked bridge.

As a huge townships for me, I see both could be a success with each other bcz both SPS and EW are not trying to outrival each other but to enhance each other eco series township.

Instead, I can comment that both SEH and EM could be success in shorter than 8-10 years period but not necessary the whole Semenyih could be benefited from it.

History reminded me that, ppl used to claim Setia Alam as Klang border and very far from everywhere. The location maintain the same as border to Shah Alam and Klang as it today but people accepted it is Setia Alam township and do not rank it as Klang.

Anyhow, I could be wrong too.

no doubt both townships would complement each other and will prosper given some time... but bringing Setia Alam into the picture imo is more like a comparison between Bdr Bukit Raja vs Setia Alam... they are almost next to each other but the prices are far apart (it hurts if non Klang Valley ppl ask for directions to your house and u have to say next to Setia Alam because they dont know Bdr Bukit Raja for eg)... the question is parking your money in SEH or EM, which will bring better returns or better still which will redefine the brand name of Semenyih?

so ini bila launching?
ecosky have activities lined up for this sunday and early next month.

I'm doubt about the ROI if you were getting bank loan. Can't compared this ecomajestic with setia alam as different entry cost and appreciation value.

Ecomajestic - high entry cost with slow appreciation value and serve high loan interest.
Setia alam - low entry cost but high appreciation value.

Think twice.

This post has been edited by lowprice: Apr 10 2014, 11:19 AM

No la, what he means is, which location is better btw SEH and EM, both are next to each other included the upcoming future SEH2. Both are still under construction and a major township of total 3000 acres, we are unable to define which one is certainly the best bet. Unless this is 300 acres township or already 30% developed, or else, we are very hard to justify which is safer bet and a lot of individual preference and profile needed to bring up here.

What he brought up the name oif Setia Alam is not the direct comparison for ROI, but just a sake of the location for Klang / Shah Alams residents for the better location of Setia Alam and Bdr Bukit Raja, where also next to each other and mirror to the situation of SEH and EM now.

Btw, I am not agreeable if the ROI is doubt if we are going to take bank loan. It is very much depoends on how you determine the ROI or cash flow.

Hi chris,

For your last paragraph, I'm still doubt for those who borrow bank loan and looking for ROI. First, the entry cost is at least half mil let say for size - 20x70. Even if its appreciation value goes up fast(but I foreseen it will take longer than setia alam. Worst case - high price low demand), how many are affordable to buy its subsale which possible goes near to 700-800k after vp or longer appreciation? For 2 cents view for this project or ecohill is that this is not for investment if applied bank loan but good for own stay.

Pls share your thoughts.

This post has been edited by lowprice: Apr 10 2014, 01:45 PM

Repeat? Means if I purchase 50 biji, I dapat 1 biji free ka?
Let me take out my giant gao Q later 1st...

Bro,

It depends on how you calculate the return on investment, which for me, can be in certain several formula.

I prefer to use COCR ( Cash on Capital Return ) on buy / sell purpose as my ROI. Btw, how you use ur ROI? By using the profit / Purchase Price as the flow?

Say, if I buy a RM 500k house and appreciated to RM 750k in 5 years time.
Scenario 1
If I buy cash, my initial capital is RM 500k and upon selling, my cost is 2% agent fee @ RM 15k + miscel cost like S&P at RM 15k.
Net profit after 5 years is RM 250k - RM 30k = RM 220k
Average ROI, 220k / 5 years = RM 44k per year

Scenario 2
If I pay RM 50k downpayment ( my capital ) and get RM 450k loan, my cost is bank interest for 5 years, say estimated RM 50k, and upon selling, my cost is 2% agent fee @ RM 15k + miscel cost like S&P at RM 15k.
Net profit after 5 years is RM 250k - RM 80k = RM 170k
Average ROI, 170k / 5 years = RM 34k per year

If you see the above situation, RM 220k profit is surely more handsome than the RM 170k profit, both is manner of 5 years. But let's see another assumption below based on Cash on Cash Return ;
Scenario 1 : 220k / 500k capital = 44% COCR or 8.88% per annum
Scenario 2 : 220k / 50k ( capital ) + RM 50k ( interest in 60 months ) = 169% COCR or 33.80% per annum

I prefer to to take out RM 50k downpayment and ready another RM 50k which is going to pay slowly over the 5 years course to gain more pretty profit at 169%, rather than not only put in the RM 500k but locked it for 5 years before I get back with just 44% return.

Btw, we shouldn't include a matured township at different location with different demand like Setia Alam as the comparison with under construction likle SEH and EM.
Setia Alam - Entry is high compare to SEH and EM due to matured township and matured price, but steady and less risk due to ready market.
SEH / EM - Entry is lower than Setia Alam and based on pricing, it has the potential to go up further.
If Setia Alam's 20x70 has the buyers of RM 780k - 800k now, I see no reason why SEH and EM can't repeat the same thing of RM 780k - RM 800k in few years later on.

My advise, the risk is there, to buy into very huge township like SEH, EM or Bdr Rimbayu, the potential is surely there but timing and holding is the key. Don't expect 169% COCR upon completion especially for Phase 1.

This is not The Zest, The Treez or KR1.

Plus 1. Timing n holding is a key.

+1 like...

Possibly launching after the BA3 heat , same to IoI and Uem sunrise which nearby