I know of committee members makan wang oh... Quite a few court cases.

How many % d dv? how many times a year?

Today bimb wa went up so much hor... Got buy or not? I watch n watch... Plan 2 enter d scene only next year... Still doing my research...

Really? What news u got? Share generously!

My fear is gold diarrhea thereafter... Last year, you guys are optimistic of 2013 or not? Even me a newbie in this forum, after reading up what u guys wrote, feel quite pessimistic about next year... Was it just me? Normally I'm d optimistic type.

Thanks, Boss! Good advice!

Don't make us suspend la! What is it that next black swan? How sure yr news? So u r suggesting back away fr stock market?

Is it this the black swan?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlenzner/...ast-four-years/
Also watch:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6lvHZSwJIDc&d...v%3D6lvHZSwJIDc

When Jib Kor says w/o gst we'll go bankrupt, MAYBE it's not a slip of tongue / misprint after all.

But Let's not panic. Instead let's put our heads together to see how to save our own skin!

2014, you all going to invest or not? Any good solutions?

If u were 2 survey a newbie such as me, I'll tell u truthfully I'll wait until a unit has gone down at least 30%+ in KL area. D math is simple. 5% untung, 25%+give gomen/agent/lawyer fee/misc expenses etc. Yet still have to hold at least 4 years. Anything less than 5% untung, I rather go share market. Faster n easier to sell,zero maintenance fee, no bank interest, no holding costs n risk of no buyer/tenant. I'm referring 2 properties in d region of 750k-1.25m max. in klang valley only. 1m property, only gain 50k, really no big deal.Penny stock 10sen, goes up 5 sen that's 50% profit already. Noticed properties shares going south these days?

What about u guys?

-30% can only come during recession. That's what I was hinting. Anyway, come what may. I've no rush to invest if the price keep shooting up like rocket. See who buy! What goes up, must come down. Anyway, just HMO. Just a newbie ma.. Also to share, I've picked up properties 5 yrs after cf at developers original prices before. Good developer, good location some more. Cerita Benar. Maybe just lucky....

Will be careful. Thank you for your advice.

U optimistic towards what type of other investments? What's yr reason?

Not many units one can buy if use loans. You know how much interests if u take a few millions $ loans. Come recessions, it's like kamikaze! Recession coming already. My friend closed 7 retail branches in klang valley this yr alone! The first to kena is usually retail, then slowly spread ...... Good to stay conservative, in fact!

This post has been edited by TiramisuCoffee: Dec 17 2013, 02:58 PM

BLR will sure go up one. How many yrs have u been holding that apartment? Don't wait till price tsunami hit then only u let it go! Rugi besar! Normally apartment, not much untung, if u take into consideration d maintenance fee etc

Oh! Good le! no RPGT!

If rental can cover everything, why sell?

Furniture.

Are u serious? Poison? Care to elaborate?

Interesting. Can you elaborate on how the contractors n consultants became buyers?

My contractor friend was given a few units to pay for his services when developer tarak wang. Rotting away, those units cos it's a no one wants punya location.