bro , wat the result ?...

yeah brah, let us know the resat? better or worse?

Im driving Saga FLX 1.6 SE....still no going first 1k maintenance....it seems to me that fuel consumption is high....

using federal road...from full bar until one bar....from kerteh to melaka ,is it still consider normal ?

This post has been edited by Zaszo: Aug 2 2014, 01:48 PM

mine same flx se with you. i am not sure how long the distance between kerteh to melaka. my car already 18k mileage. manage to have 15kml using trunk Road between kuala Selangor to Taiping. avg speed 100kmh.

ur fc will be improve after 10k service.

362 km ...taken from google map....i would sum it about 400 km.....since the destination is not near to real location....

Your Inspira has less torque then Preve CFE. and the performance cannot match it either.

This is like comparing apple an oranges. If Inspira 2.0CVT than some logic come into play.

Want Jimat, get a hybrid or wait for Saga Hybrid. Fill up RM70 = 700 to 800km. Doesn't matter you ram the car or not.

Thanks for the points, will look into it and put into practice. Having some FC issues too with my 4 years Saga BLM 1.3 Manual and was reading up if fuel brands play some role too in better FC and mileage

Nope. Fuel brand isn't going to help...it's just a pyschology thing.

im using variant with FL logo written at back of car. lots of traffic lights & t junctions my area. so get 1l= 7km. or rm30 = 100km

This post has been edited by emanresu: Sep 5 2014, 11:42 PM

rented a saga sv last week
the fuel consumption is appalling
the difference with myvi is quite big

saga flx sv manual 1.3

376.8km

Full tank @60 RM at today's rate.

70% highway 30% city.

haven't done 2nd maintenance, mileage below 10k.

Is the FC good or bad.

I have been using a 1.3 flx since 2012 and fc is worst than my c200 if comparing engine size and performance.
C200 is 66 liter tank and flx is 40 liter tank.
C200 Full Tank is RM128 and FLX is RM78 (based on current price RON95)
C200 can get 450km and flx can get 280KM (both are city driving)
So i spent RM0.27 per km for flx and RM0.28 for C200 making the flx a whole lot more fuel hungry car than the c200.
This is what I am getting from the flx for the last 3 years up to last week when a proton service center mechanic ask me to change petrol.
All the while flx is using primax 95 and shell for the c200 (mostly on 97)
This is my conversation with him (from what I can recall after 2 weeks ago):

Mechanic: En. pakai minyak apa? Petronas ke?
Me: Yes petronas primax 95
Mechanic: En, jangan pakai minyak petronas kat flx all the time.
Me: Kenapa dengan petronas? Engine is more silent than other petrol.
Mechanic: Petronas ni lebih water contents dlm chemical mixture. Petrol fuel have expiry dates. Petronas bila expired, will breakdown into bacteria and sink at the bottom on the big tank (35000 liters) at petrol station. Bila new petrol comes for refill, petrol station biasanya tambah masuk je dalam tangki. jarang la petrol station ni clean the tank. jadi old bacteria will infect the new petrol.
Me (already pening with his explanation): Apa impact kat flx?
Mechanic: Oh, flx ni ada cvt and cvt sensors tu kat dalam engine (pointing to me where the sensors are, somewhere where the spark plugs goes in). Lama-lama pakai petronas or minyak apa2, sensors tu kotor cause of the high water contents. Bila kotor, cvt cannot read realtime petrol needed by engines. So cvt akan request more petrol than needed.
Me: (OOO thats news to me and sound logical too) Boleh tengok CVT reading?
Mechanic: See, CVT should be moving between 8-700mW pressure, kete en ni 412mW average. quite high.
Me: habis camne, x boleh reset ke? (haha belajar kat KL Proton Center - reset CVT if got FC issue)
Mechanic: Boleh tapi tak sampai seminggu sama jugak nanti.

(Ever wonder why your car after service has better fc but back to bad fc after a couple of week)

Me: So how to improve fc?
Mechanic: Senang je, drive kete en ni sampai lampu minyak warning keluar, pastu ISI CALTEX TECHRON?
Me: 95 ke 97?
Mechanic: 95 je
Me: Kenapa caltex?
Mechanic: TECHRON additive ni power en. Boleh clean apa-apa residue dlm engine. Pakai je full tank 2-3 times then sure ada improvement.
Me: Ok, saya cuba and tengok la. Kalu xde caltex, whats the next best petrol?
Mechanic: Petron additives is good too. En try caltex tapi kalau dah xde, pakai petron. Minyak lain sama je macam petronas.
Me: Ok, terima kasih bye and thank you

So he reset the CVT, and off I go to drive back to KL and did not refill (already have half tank) and when left one bar, start looking for Caltex on NKVE, lol, no Caltex anywhere. So i add another RM20 Primax la, reach home and asks my son to NOT refill until empty/warning. Apparently Caltex in KL is also very scarce but manage to fill a tank full of caltex in Setiawangsa. Then another tank after a week and off driving the car to Tapah with full tank of caltex.

Surprise surprise, I drove to Tapah and back to KL with full tank and still has 2 bars left. For the 1st time my FLX hit 420KM before refuel. Extra 120km after 3 years of driving. wow. before this, long distance, short, city always get 280-300 max.

So here I am sharing the story and after googling, found out that Caltex Techron is a very powerful and proven additives and exclusive to Caltex only. Please google for more info.

The mechanic didn't know that since 2014 Caltex has Techron Plus Concentrated that you can buy and put in your empty tank and mix with other petrol and clean your engine with a bottle of techron and full tank of petrol in your car. Now I am changing my C200 to caltex as well.

Wow, long story short, test your car with caltex techron plus for faster result cause if use just caltex 95, u need at least 2-3 full tanks to clean your dirty valves or sensors in the engine and on top of not easy to find caltex in KL. Maybe if u work in KLCC, there;s one near Tabung Haji or Setiawangsa. From google, it says u need to fill in techron plus every 5000km.



Good luck

dont forget to clean the throttle body mate 3 years already

Tq for sharing.

Definitely good info. Gonna try this.

mine 160km/rm50 ron 95
one bar fuel is about 38-40km...

Is good that carltex improves ur flx performance, based on your experience. But 1 question. How does Techron technology improves on cleaning residue? At the end of the day, the residue stays INSIDE the engine system (and fuel filter don't go around like an Indonesian amah to clean dirty spots), so in what sense does techron cleans it?

If there is a way, techron may cling to the pistons, and hinder residue from getting into the pistons and combustion area.. or it clings to the residue, and gets pushed to the fuel filter.

On another note, does this feeling of flx chugging oil because of the frequency to refuel? Flx cars only have 40ltr tank, and warning lights come on when there is +-15ltr left. If this is the reason, I do not think is fair, as FC should be based on consumption per mileage??

Flx is comparable to Vios: http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/vios, ranging about 10km/l-15km/l but if basis is coz Vios is 1.5, then i get it la

This post has been edited by 1tanmee: Mar 25 2018, 02:55 PM

4 years down the road, and still no news about Saga hybrid, heheh

Thx for info.