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TELESCOPIC FORK

The KTM RC 390 high-quality upside-down fork from WP Suspension has the same 43 mm outer tube diameter as the RC8 R – in other words, real racing equipment that guarantees highest levels of stability and precision.

FRAME

Visually similar to the lightweight and approved Duke steel trellis frame, the orange painted frame has been modified to better fit the supersport ergonomics and dynamics. The increase of the steering head angle to 66,5 degrees results in a shorter trail, shorter wheelbase and increased ground clearance. All these modifications release the complete racing potential of the RC and guarantee quick, agile and playful handling.

INSTRUMENT

The 100% digital LCD display has everything you could expect from a state of the art KTM motorcycle, including engaged gear, fuel gauge and service reminder information. Just like supersport racing machines an RPM alert indicates when is the best moment for shifting up.

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SWING ARM

The light alloy swingarm with directly linked WP shock absorber excels by providing extreme torsional stiffness and outstanding tracking stability.

WIND SHIELD

The advanced design wind shield in combination with the aerodynamic optimized motorcycle front ensure incredible wind protection for rider’s chest and arms.

SEAT

The two-part seat offers first class supersport ergonomics with perfect support for rider and pillion. With a seat height of 820mm it enables the rider to have a secure stance whilst also being high enough for sporty use and real big-bike feeling.

FUEL TANK

A brand new steel fuel tank with 9,5l capacity (including 1,5l reserve) has been developed for the RC, perfectly matching the supersport style and vehicle design, together with rider ergonomics. Thanks to the economic engine the RC achieves impressive efficiency even when ridden hard for a considerable distance.

HANDLE BAR

Brand new clip on handlebars and switches contribe to a sporty and aggressive riding position combined with advanced control.

WHEELS

Equally lightweight as stable, the 17in orange painted cast light alloy wheels are fitted with grippy Metzeler tyres – 110 mm wide at the front and an impressive 150 mm at the rear. The tyres impress with tremendous grip in both wet and dry conditions, as well as providing supreme durability.

STANDARD ABS

ABS is equipped as standard on every RC 390, ensuring maximum safe on any road condition. When taking the RC to the racetrack ABS is of course disengageable.

SILENCER

The compact underbelly, three-chamber silencer is positioned close to the bike’s overall centre of gravity. This aids the centralisation of mass and prevents accidental contact with the rider’s and passenger’s legs.

A2 LICENSE

With a power/weight ratio of 0.2kW/kg RC390 is right at the limit of the new A2 driver´s license, making the new KTM RC390 the sportiest option for A2 riders.

THIN TAIL

Fitting perfectly into the pure racing look the number plate holder rounds KTM’s high performance bike off.

BODYWORK

The brand new bodywork, footrests and pedals not only provide a unique supersport look but also help the RC to master extreme cornering by allowing a greater leaning angle.

INTEGRATED BLINKERS

As a special feature the RC incorporates blinkers into mirrors structure, which not just looks very sporty but also contributes to the perfect aerodynamics.

HEADLIGHT

Brand new twin headlight opens a new direction for KTM style and perfectly matches with the racing supersport look of the RC.

ENGINE

The state-of-the-art, liquid cooled, single-cylinder four-stroke 375ccm engine with twin overhead camshafts, four valves and electronic fuel injection, already equipped in the Duke 390 provides outstanding power and thanks to the balancer shaft, delivers the highest level of smoothness. Because of the KTM-typical compact design with stacked transmission shafts the engine has an unbelievable low weight of 36kg. Combine that with technical details like a forged piston, Nikasil-cylinder-coating and forced feed lubrication with power-promoting body-evacuation and you get an engine which provides a remarkable 44hp. The engine is equipped with an electric starter powered by a 12V/6Ah battery.

TRIPLE CLAMPS

The brand new forged aluminum triple clamps are eye-catchers and together with the clip on handlebars guarantee a pure supersport racing feeling.

PILLION RIDE SEAT

In order to make no compromises in terms of supersport look the KTM engineers integrated the pillion seat into the bodywork lines so that it looks like a real racing bike tail, but ensuring excellent comfort for the passenger.

BRAKES

KTM developed in cooperation with Brembo a powerful and easy to control brake-system which allows the rider to be always in control of the RC. A four piston radially bolted caliper in combination with a single brake disk (300mm diameter) in the front and a single piston floating caliper with a single brake disk (230mm diameter) for the rear wheel guarantee excellent braking response even under the most extreme conditions.

TECHNICAL DETAILS

ENGINE

Design 1-cylinder 4-stroke engine, water-cooled
Displacement 373.2 cm³
Bore 89 mm
Stroke 60 mm
Performance 32 kW (43 hp)
Starting aid Electric starter
Transmission 6 speed, claw shifted
Engine lubrication Forced oil lubrication with 2 Eaton pumps
Primary gear ratio 30:80
Secondary gear ratio 15:45
Cooling system Liquid cooling system, continuous circulation of cooling liquid with water pump
Clutch Wet multi-disc clutch / mechanically operated
Ignition system Contactless, controlled, fully electronic ignition system with digital ignition timing adjustment
CHASSIS

Frame Tubular space frame made from steel, powder-coated
Fork WP Suspension Up Side Down
Shock absorber WP Monoshock
Suspension travel front 125 mm
Suspension travel rear 150 mm
Brake system Front Disc brake with four-pot brake caliper
Brake system Rear Disc brake with one-pot brake caliper, floating brake discs
Brake discs – diameter Front 300 mm
Brake discs – diameter Rear 230 mm
Chain 5/8 x 1/4” X‑Ring
Steering head angle 66.5°
Wheel base 1,340±15 mm
Ground clearance (unloaded) 178.5 mm
Seat height (unloaded) 820 mm
Total fuel tank capacity approx. 10 l
Unleaded premium fuel (95 RON)
Weight without fuel approx. 147 kg


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post Nov 6 2013, 06:42 PM

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post Nov 6 2013, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Nov 6 2013, 06:44 PM)
Rather ride a mopad
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post Nov 6 2013, 08:14 PM

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Fuel tank 9.5l?
Single cylinder with this design?

No.
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post Nov 6 2013, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:14 PM)
Fuel tank 9.5l?
Single cylinder with this design?

No.
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9.5L i think can go bout 200-300km
should be good enough
1 cylinder machine mah
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post Nov 6 2013, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 6 2013, 08:18 PM)
9.5L i think can go bout 200-300km
should be good enough
1 cylinder machine mah
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Design like this I was hoping around 14-15l
1 cylinder high torque ma, later kapcai overtake.
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What I'm saying is, if they put 1 cylinder, don't design that looks la.
People not well versed in the specs might expect something else out of it.
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:23 PM)
1 cylinder high torque ma, later kapcai overtake.
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Kapchai can overtake 43hp?
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 6 2013, 08:28 PM)
Kapchai can overtake 43hp?
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Your torque will run out very quickly at high rpm, you can take the lead, over time you suddenly see some rempit coming from behind.
Why don't you go and test?

There are reasons why people take 2, 3, or 4 cylinders.
1 cylinder isn't gonna cut it if they're trying to sell based on its looks.
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:31 PM)
Your torque will run out very quickly at high rpm, you can take the lead, over time you suddenly see some rempit coming from behind.
Why don't you go and test?

There are reasons why people take 2, 3, or 4 cylinders.
1 cylinder isn't gonna cut it if they're trying to sell based on its looks.
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I most likely wouldn't get this as it'll definitely sound just like the Duke (pot pot pot pot pot) but I would like to see a kapchai and this race around the track, and witness the kapchai "suddenly coming from behind" laugh.gif
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torque=/=hp
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post Nov 6 2013, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:23 PM)
Design like this I was hoping around 14-15l
1 cylinder high torque ma, later kapcai overtake.
doh.gif

What I'm saying is, if they put 1 cylinder, don't design that looks la.
People not well versed in the specs might expect something else out of it.
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bape torque RC390?
cakap macam minyak punye kapasiti tinggi torque tinggi? ahahahah
ni spec die
KTM RC 390 43.5 bhp and 35 Nm Torque. 373.2cc. Top speed - 175 km/hr.
kawasaki kips 150 rr tu pun baru 20+ Nm torque
sumber kalau tak percaya boleh google


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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:31 PM)
Your torque will run out very quickly at high rpm, you can take the lead, over time you suddenly see some rempit coming from behind.
Why don't you go and test?

There are reasons why people take 2, 3, or 4 cylinders.
1 cylinder isn't gonna cut it if they're trying to sell based on its looks.
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seriously
cari 1 kapcai
yg kuar2 kilang boleh lawan 390cc 44hp
i had used so mana moped
mana boleh pegi 180+?
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rc 125 and 200 fully faired also? drool.gif

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boleh bawak awek tak moto ni.. mcm 1 seat je.
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:31 PM)
Your torque will run out very quickly at high rpm, you can take the lead, over time you suddenly see some rempit coming from behind.
Why don't you go and test?

There are reasons why people take 2, 3, or 4 cylinders.
1 cylinder isn't gonna cut it if they're trying to sell based on its looks.
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Can't lili brain what u r spewing..... can u speak in layman's term. X paham siall.

There r so many factor that affect a bike's performance. Cylinder count is just 1 of tiny weeny of them.being a thumper ain't no joke bro. It being a single cylinder, but at 390++cc, no moped can come near it, performance wise...
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QUOTE(yoyomandroid @ Nov 6 2013, 10:57 PM)
boleh bawak awek tak moto ni.. mcm 1 seat je.
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It's stated that they designed the pillion seat to look like it's not there, to make the bike look like a 1-seater.

So I guess boleh bawak awek as long as she's not huge like rosmah.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 6 2013, 11:10 PM)
It's stated that they designed the pillion seat to look like it's not there, to make the bike look like a 1-seater.

So I guess boleh bawak awek as long as she's not huge like rosmah.
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Got rear passenger footrests, of course can.

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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 6 2013, 08:28 PM)
Kapchai can overtake 43hp?
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wat is kapcai cc n power ar? biggrin.gif soli i no ride kapcai b4..
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I'm bike noob, n dun ride 110kmh everyday, I though 1 cylinder means pandan sound only. haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 6 2013, 08:28 PM)
Kapchai can overtake 43hp?
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post Nov 7 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Nov 6 2013, 11:05 PM)
Can't lili brain what u r spewing..... can u speak in layman's term. X paham siall.

There r so many factor that affect a bike's performance. Cylinder count is just 1 of tiny weeny of them.being a thumper ain't no joke bro. It being a single cylinder, but at 390++cc, no moped can come near it, performance wise...
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moped mana / kapcai yg boleh kejar 44hp bike? hahaha
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 7 2013, 12:17 AM)
itu la aku tny die
moped mana / kapcai yg boleh kejar 44hp bike? hahaha
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cannot run away , physics.. torque of 150cc bike will be around half or less of the 390cc bike.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:23 PM)
Design like this I was hoping around 14-15l
1 cylinder high torque ma, later kapcai overtake.
doh.gif

What I'm saying is, if they put 1 cylinder, don't design that looks la.
People not well versed in the specs might expect something else out of it.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 6 2013, 08:28 PM)
Kapchai can overtake 43hp?
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:31 PM)
Your torque will run out very quickly at high rpm, you can take the lead, over time you suddenly see some rempit coming from behind.
Why don't you go and test?

There are reasons why people take 2, 3, or 4 cylinders.
1 cylinder isn't gonna cut it if they're trying to sell based on its looks.
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I'm not good at engines like you guys, but people are telling me:

Larger capacity + Low number of cylinders = bigger cylinder head = more intertia = lower redline = torque band finish at lower RPM (e.g diesel engine)

After googling, the Famous CBR250RR, 250cc with 4 cylinders the max power is at 19k while the max torque is at 16k RPM.
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It'll probably cost around 40k ish though sad.gif
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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Nov 6 2013, 11:25 PM)
Got rear passenger footrests,  of course can.
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Yeap, but the seat looks, hard laugh.gif

QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 6 2013, 11:35 PM)
wat is kapcai cc n power ar? biggrin.gif soli i no ride kapcai b4..
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Last time the best kapcai had 110cc, like the RG, SS, then came the kawi and Z with 125.

But I think Belang is the fastest kot. I dunno their power tongue.gif
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QUOTE(arif85124 @ Nov 7 2013, 09:18 AM)
still can't beat ex5 maneuverability
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 09:31 PM)
Your torque will run out very quickly at high rpm, you can take the lead, over time you suddenly see some rempit coming from behind.
Why don't you go and test?

There are reasons why people take 2, 3, or 4 cylinders.
1 cylinder isn't gonna cut it if they're trying to sell based on its looks.
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don't worry la , ori kapcai cant reach ur speed .. chill~ , but i agree , if with 2 or 3 cylinder then its better
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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Nov 7 2013, 09:29 AM)
bang, x pernah ride KTM yer?
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not ride both, but i never see ktm cilok like ex5
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QUOTE(arif85124 @ Nov 7 2013, 09:39 AM)
not ride both, but i never see ktm cilok like ex5
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is RC125, RC200 RC 390 going to have the same look?
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Well if you like it, I can't really do anything to turn you the other way around.
I do agree that it looks nice, but the hardware just doesn't match.

Still a big no for me.
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QUOTE(simpul @ Nov 7 2013, 10:55 AM)
is RC125, RC200 RC 390 going to have the same look?
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Same look, not very sure bout the sizes.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 7 2013, 01:22 PM)
Same look, not very sure bout the sizes.
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all 3 models 125/200/390 use the same chasis
so size wise should be the same
only the engine is bigger
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 7 2013, 01:27 PM)
all 3 models 125/200/390 use the same chasis
so size wise should be the same
only the engine is bigger
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Hmm okay interesting.

Wheel size also same?
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 7 2013, 02:21 PM)
Hmm okay interesting.

Wheel size also same?
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wheel size sume same 17
hahaha lebar tayar je lain
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 7 2013, 02:54 PM)
wheel size sume same 17
hahaha lebar tayar je lain
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Haha!

Eh Duke 390 is about RM28k kan? So I guess this one should be around there too?
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sape tau ble ktm rc 125, 200 dgn 390 kluar kt sini?

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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 7 2013, 05:48 PM)
Haha!

Eh Duke 390 is about RM28k kan? So I guess this one should be around there too?
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Meh.

Single cylinder.

Some more ketam now manyak faggot owner especially those former rempit
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Single silinder ok wat, i used to own suzuki fxr 150,
Really powderful dohc engine,
Big tank, can full throttle from penang to sepang, pusing pusing summore without refueling.

Top speed around 160-170kmh..

This bike sure doubles the fun!
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Wowow is it coming to MY? This is wot I wanna ride if I finally decide to learn to ride bikes.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 7 2013, 05:48 PM)
Haha!

Eh Duke 390 is about RM28k kan? So I guess this one should be around there too?
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Jun 28 2014, 06:02 PM)
Meh.

Single cylinder.

Some more ketam now manyak faggot owner especially those former rempit
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ok or not if get the rc390. fits the budget.
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QUOTE(thesun @ Jun 28 2014, 09:07 PM)
Single silinder ok wat, i used to own suzuki fxr 150,
Really powderful dohc engine,
Big tank, can full throttle from penang to sepang, pusing pusing summore without refueling.

Top speed around 160-170kmh..

This bike sure doubles the fun!
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FXR 150 is different kind of beast, can never compare with lowly indian-made motorcycle with austrian logo badge on it laugh.gif
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Wowow is it coming to MY?  This is wot I wanna ride if I finally decide to learn to ride bikes.
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by end of year or early 2015

QUOTE(iceman31 @ Jun 28 2014, 09:19 PM)
ok or not if get the rc390. fits the budget.
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the RC390 will be around 26K, so OTR probably 30K+
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Jun 29 2014, 12:42 AM)
FXR 150 is different kind of beast, can never compare with lowly indian-made motorcycle with austrian logo badge on it laugh.gif

by end of year or early 2015
the RC390 will be around 26K, so OTR probably 30K+
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my modenas kriss modified already top 160km/h. modified sikit lagi boleh tapau moto ni.
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QUOTE(PleaseEnterYourName @ Aug 2 2014, 01:51 AM)
my modenas kriss modified already top 160km/h. modified sikit lagi boleh tapau moto ni.
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ktm rc200 and rc390 sudah launch semalam biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(rozaini_aimar @ Sep 17 2014, 05:50 PM)
ktm rc200 and rc390 sudah launch semalam biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(itanium @ Sep 17 2014, 05:58 PM)
RC390 price?
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28K OTR

better take CB 500R
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 17 2014, 06:00 PM)
28K OTR

better take CB 500R
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....or CB650 perhaps?
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:23 PM)
Design like this I was hoping around 14-15l
1 cylinder high torque ma, later kapcai overtake.
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What I'm saying is, if they put 1 cylinder, don't design that looks la.
People not well versed in the specs might expect something else out of it.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 6 2013, 08:28 PM)
Kapchai can overtake 43hp?
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:31 PM)
Your torque will run out very quickly at high rpm, you can take the lead, over time you suddenly see some rempit coming from behind.
Why don't you go and test?

There are reasons why people take 2, 3, or 4 cylinders.
1 cylinder isn't gonna cut it if they're trying to sell based on its looks.
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 6 2013, 10:45 PM)
bape torque RC390?
cakap macam minyak punye kapasiti tinggi torque tinggi? ahahahah
ni spec die
KTM RC 390 43.5 bhp and 35 Nm Torque. 373.2cc. Top speed - 175 km/hr.
kawasaki kips 150 rr tu pun baru 20+ Nm torque
sumber kalau tak percaya boleh google
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Nov 6 2013, 10:52 PM)
seriously
cari 1 kapcai
yg kuar2 kilang boleh lawan 390cc 44hp
i had used so mana moped
mana boleh pegi 180+?
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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Nov 6 2013, 11:05 PM)
Can't lili brain what u r spewing..... can u speak in layman's term. X paham siall.

There r so many factor that affect a bike's performance. Cylinder count is just 1 of tiny weeny of them.being a thumper ain't no joke bro. It being a single cylinder, but at 390++cc, no moped can come near it, performance wise...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 6 2013, 11:35 PM)
wat is kapcai cc n power ar? biggrin.gif soli i no ride kapcai b4..
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Banyaknya yang mempersoal tapau-menapau sesama motor. Jadi aku akan explain dari segi engineering (ambik elektif dulu automotif engineering):
1) Torque determines the acceleration.
2) Horsepower determines the top speed.

Dua-dua mempunyai hubungan:
user posted image

Ini basic untuk torque dan horsepower. Lepas tu:
1) The lighter the vehicle, the faster it accelerates. The heavier the vehicle, the slower it accelerates if both of the vehicle have the same torque.
2) Vehicle with higher air drag will have lower top speed, vice versa for both vehicle with the same horsepower.

user posted image
FD is the drag force, which is by definition the force component in the direction of the flow velocity,[1]
rho is the mass density of the fluid, [2]
v is the velocity of the object relative to the fluid,
A is the reference area, and
CD is the drag coefficient – a dimensionless coefficient related to the object's geometry and taking into account both skin friction and form drag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_equation

Untuk hubungkan drag force sama horsepower (untuk overcome the drag force at high speed):
P = F.V
P: Power
F = Drag force
V = vehicle speed

Dari formula drag force boleh lihat drag force increases exponentionally dengan peningkatan vehicle speed, sebagai contoh:
Katakan drag force untuk 50 km/h = A
drag force untuk 100 km/h = 4A
drag force untuk 150 km/h = 9A
drag force untuk 200 km/h = 16A

Macam mana dapat 16A untuk 200 km/h? Bahagikan 200 kuasa dua sdengan 50 kuasa dua = 40000/2500 = 16

Sebagai contoh horsepower kereta dengan top speed yang boleh didapati:
100 km/h = 20hp
190 km/h = 110hp (god car, waja, honda siti nurhaliza)
260km/h = 280hp (subaru imprekzaaa, lancer evo ori, lancer evo tiruan wiralution)
410km/h = 1000hp (veyron)

Boleh nampak semakin tinggi top speed, gila vavi horsepower diperlukan.


Jadi kapcai dengan 9hp mahu tapau KTM 390 dengan 44hp, jangan harap lah! lol laugh.gif
kapcai yang sudah gila babi modify pon boleh cecah 160km/h jek.
Satu-satunya kapcai yang boleh lawan ialah kapcai 125z cub prix, ini gila vavi laju.

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QUOTE(itanium @ Sep 17 2014, 06:06 PM)
....or CB650 perhaps?
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41k for inline 4 650cc

Not bad yo
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 17 2014, 07:19 PM)
41k for inline 4 650cc

Not bad yo
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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Sep 17 2014, 07:30 PM)
Is this the cheapest inline 4?
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Is this the cheapest inline 4?
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buy yamaha xj6 better buy CB650 lor....
seriousy considering rc390 or cb650......not sure my back can handle rc390 after long rides.....

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 17 2014, 06:00 PM)
28K OTR

better take CB 500R
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QUOTE(mambangafro @ Sep 17 2014, 07:34 PM)
Sokong

Japanese bike ftw
Harga pun ok
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CB500R is such a boring looking bike though.
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QUOTE(itanium @ Sep 17 2014, 07:53 PM)
buy yamaha xj6 better buy CB650 lor....
seriousy considering rc390 or cb650......not sure my back can handle rc390 after long rides.....
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beli la cb650f bro.. pastu buat rebiew
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QUOTE(itanium @ Sep 17 2014, 07:53 PM)
buy yamaha xj6 better buy CB650 lor....
seriousy considering rc390 or cb650......not sure my back can handle rc390 after long rides.....
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Scouting for valueable inline four
Bored with my duke 200 d
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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Sep 17 2014, 08:06 PM)
Scouting for valueable inline four
Bored with my duke 200 d
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any reason bored? i'm gonna go for a test ride once the rc390 arrives in KK.

I tested the XJ6 liao.
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Sep 17 2014, 08:02 PM)
beli la cb650f bro.. pastu buat rebiew
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 17 2014, 06:16 PM)
Banyaknya yang mempersoal tapau-menapau sesama motor. Jadi aku akan explain dari segi engineering (ambik elektif dulu automotif engineering):
1) Torque determines the acceleration.
2) Horsepower determines the top speed.
acterly this is already wrong concept.

power is produced by torque on a rotatating shaft. so power = torque (x a constant) when the shaft is rotating

there is no such thing as max torque = max acceleration, which occurs on a fix ratio gearbox.

more so when you throw in a CVT into the concept then max acceleration occurs at max power, not at max torque.
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korang lupa yang rc390 punya berat cuma 140kg sementara cbr500 200kg

power to weight ratio memang rc390 champion la kot
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 17 2014, 10:17 PM)
acterly this is already wrong concept.

power is produced by torque on a rotatating shaft. so  power = torque (x a constant) when the shaft is rotating

there is no such thing as max torque = max acceleration, which occurs on a fix ratio gearbox.

more so when you throw in a CVT into the concept then max acceleration occurs at max power, not at max torque.
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power abang nie..

kalau nak speed 299 HP moto kena ada berapa ?
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;E.......itu ktm punya 390 engine high strung ar?........
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QUOTE(yoyomandroid @ Nov 6 2013, 10:57 PM)
boleh bawak awek tak moto ni.. mcm 1 seat je.
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The other interesting thing about the KTM design of the RC200 and RC390 is the implementation of the rear seat to make it looks like a single rider bike, but actually the one that is looking like the rear tail cover is actually a soft plastic with padding to function as a seat. Clever!
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QUOTE(bagok @ Sep 17 2014, 10:24 PM)
power abang nie..

kalau nak speed 299 HP moto kena  ada berapa ?
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wah.. that one depends on your frontal drag cooefficient also.. so if wider/gemuk than the front faring cover biggrin.gif maybe need more HP..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 17 2014, 10:17 PM)
acterly this is already wrong concept.

power is produced by torque on a rotatating shaft. so  power = torque (x a constant) when the shaft is rotating

there is no such thing as max torque = max acceleration, which occurs on a fix ratio gearbox.

more so when you throw in a CVT into the concept then max acceleration occurs at max power, not at max torque.
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Torque is the rotating force along a shaft, it is translated back into translational force by the wheels.

This is why a Silvia S15 has faster 0-100km/h time than a Honda S2000, both have about the same weight and horsepower. But the force exerted by the wheels of the Silvia is larger than the S2000 (because of higher torque), thus it accelerates faster. Remember F=m.a, so a = F/m

Check back the equations I posted, it explains the role of horsepower & torque in overcoming the mass of the vehicle in acceleration combined with the effects of aerodynamic drag.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 17 2014, 10:30 PM)
Torque is the rotating force along a shaft, it is translated back into translational force by the wheels.

This is why a Silvia S15 has faster 0-100km/h time than a Honda S2000, both have about the same weight and horsepower. But the force exerted by the wheels of the Silvia is larger than the S2000 (because of higher torque), thus it accelerates faster. Remember F=m.a, so a = F/m
ah but what if you change the final drive ratio to the rear axle.. now that changes your acceleration doest it..? why cos input RPM to the rear gearbox axle is higher, output is lower.. hence producing more torque.. hence producing more power, so accelerate faster.

remember, dyno shows results in power, but all it does is measuring force acting on a drum at known RPM.. at the end you can say torque and power have linear relation ship..

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one more thing, the assumption is F=m X a only linear when in one gear.. but what if 0-100 you need 3 gear ratios.. (2gear changes)
or if you have 4 gear ratio, with 3 gear changes. at the end the 0-100 times are all different when you take into account what happens in the gearbox.

user posted image

sorry no linear relationships to be found.. only exponential.. and affected by multiple ratios in a gearbox.. as chart above. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Nov 6 2013, 08:31 PM)
Your torque will run out very quickly at high rpm, you can take the lead, over time you suddenly see some rempit coming from behind.
Why don't you go and test?

There are reasons why people take 2, 3, or 4 cylinders.
1 cylinder isn't gonna cut it if they're trying to sell based on its looks.
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ktm always launch 1 cylinder bikes..
they 1 cyllinder bike fan kua
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 17 2014, 06:16 PM)
Banyaknya yang mempersoal tapau-menapau sesama motor. Jadi aku akan explain dari segi engineering (ambik elektif dulu automotif engineering):
1) Torque determines the acceleration.
2) Horsepower determines the top speed.

Dua-dua mempunyai hubungan:
user posted image

Ini basic untuk torque dan horsepower. Lepas tu:
1) The lighter the vehicle, the faster it accelerates. The heavier the vehicle, the slower it accelerates if both of the vehicle have the same torque.
2) Vehicle with higher air drag will have lower top speed, vice versa for both vehicle with the same horsepower.

user posted image
FD is the drag force, which is by definition the force component in the direction of the flow velocity,[1]
rho is the mass density of the fluid, [2]
v is the velocity of the object relative to the fluid,
A is the reference area, and
CD is the drag coefficient – a dimensionless coefficient related to the object's geometry and taking into account both skin friction and form drag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_equation

Untuk hubungkan drag force sama horsepower (untuk overcome the drag force at high speed):
P = F.V
P: Power
F = Drag force
V = vehicle speed

Dari formula drag force boleh lihat drag force increases exponentionally dengan peningkatan vehicle speed, sebagai contoh:
Katakan drag force untuk 50 km/h = A
drag force untuk 100 km/h = 4A
drag force untuk 150 km/h = 9A
drag force untuk 200 km/h = 16A

Macam mana dapat 16A untuk 200 km/h? Bahagikan 200 kuasa dua sdengan 50 kuasa dua = 40000/2500 = 16

Sebagai contoh horsepower kereta dengan top speed yang boleh didapati:
100 km/h = 20hp
190 km/h = 110hp (god car, waja, honda siti nurhaliza)
260km/h = 280hp (subaru imprekzaaa, lancer evo ori, lancer evo tiruan wiralution)
410km/h = 1000hp (veyron)

Boleh nampak semakin tinggi top speed, gila vavi horsepower diperlukan.
Jadi kapcai dengan 9hp mahu tapau KTM 390 dengan 44hp, jangan harap lah! lol  laugh.gif
kapcai yang sudah gila babi modify pon boleh cecah 160km/h jek.
Satu-satunya kapcai yang boleh lawan ialah kapcai 125z cub prix, ini gila vavi laju.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 17 2014, 10:36 PM)
ah but what if you change the final drive ratio to the rear axle.. now that changes your acceleration doest it..? why cos input RPM to the rear gearbox axle is higher, output is lower.. hence producing more torque.. hence producing more power, so accelerate faster.

remember, dyno shows results in power, but all it does is measuring force acting on a drum at known RPM.. at the end you can say torque and power have linear relation ship..
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If you change the final drive ratio, you changed the rpm & torque produced. But power only affects the acceleration at higher vehicle speeds because at high vehicle speeds the aerodynamic drag is pushing the vehicle back.

Dyno shows results in power & torque, check back the charts.

Refer to the equation I posted before, torque and power isn't the only parameter, you have to factor in rpm.

If you want to see the effects of torque and power, you have to set the other parameters to be the same:

Checking the effects of different torque values:
1) Both vehicle A & B have same weight, same horsepower, same aerodynamic drag (same shape). Vehicle A has double the torque than Vehicle B.
Results: Vehicle A will accelerate faster to top speed than Vehicle B but both will have the same top speed.

Checking the effects of different horsepower values:
2) Both vehicle A & B have same weight, same torque, same aerodynamic drag (same shape). Vehicle A has double the horsepower than vehicle B.
Results: Vehicle A will have higher top speed than Vehicle B, in addition, vehicle A will accelerate faster than vehicle B because vehicle A have higher rpm (check back the power to torque equations, with the same torque value, higher power means rpm must be higher). This is simply because when the vehicle A have higher rpm, it can hold on to the gear longer than vehicle B. When vehicle A is still on gear number 2, vehicle B already shifted to third gear and have to accelerate with lower torque even at the same speed as vehicle A.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2014, 09:52 AM)
If you change the final drive ratio, you changed the rpm & torque produced. But power only affects the acceleration at higher vehicle speeds because at high vehicle speeds the aerodynamic drag is pushing the vehicle back.

Dyno shows results in power & torque, check back the charts.

Refer to the equation I posted before, torque and power isn't the only parameter, you have to factor in rpm.

If you want to see the effects of torque and power, you have to set the other parameters to be the same:

Checking the effects of different torque values:
1) Both vehicle A & B have same weight, same horsepower, same aerodynamic drag (same shape). Vehicle A has double the torque than Vehicle B.
Results: Vehicle A will accelerate faster to top speed than Vehicle B but both will have the same top speed.

Checking the effects of different horsepower values:
2) Both vehicle A & B have same weight, same torque, same aerodynamic drag (same shape). Vehicle A has double the horsepower than vehicle B.
Results: Vehicle A will have higher top speed than Vehicle B, in addition, vehicle A will accelerate faster than vehicle B because vehicle A have higher rpm (check back the power to torque equations, with the same torque value, higher power means rpm must be higher). This is simply because when the vehicle A have higher rpm, it can hold on to the gear longer than vehicle B. When vehicle A is still on gear number 2, vehicle B already shifted to third gear and have to accelerate with lower torque even at the same speed as vehicle A.
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ah but you are giving the example of 2 same vehicle with double the torque and same horsepower and example 2, double horsepower, same torque..
might as well compare, proton with porsche..can conclude with certainty which one will sure win the acceleration test.
why dont you say 10% difference in torque and horse power, but different gearing/gearbox which will affect the outcome differently.

as i said, in a conventional ICE, max power comes at 6-7k rpm , at 3-4k rpm max torque level, you dont get full power., hence you wont get full acceleration.
if you got a gearbox that lets you rev to max power sooner, and stay there.. then if both cars with same horsepower+torque, the one with the gearing advantage to let you do so will accelerate faster.

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ah but you are giving the example of 2 same vehicle with double the torque and same horsepower and example 2, double horsepower, same torque.. 
might as well compare,  proton with porsche..can conclude with certainty which one will sure win the acceleration test.
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When comparing the effects of certain parameter/variable. All other variables must be controlled or made constant. This is standard practices. If you try to claim the effects of the parameters without doing that, those scientists/engineers would laugh at you man.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2014, 10:23 AM)
why dont you say 10% difference in torque and horse power, but different gearing/gearbox which will affect the outcome differently.
Gearing/gearbox doesn't affect the outcome at all. Gearing ratios are calculated from the given engine's power and torque chart. The one that would affect the outcome is the difference in torque and power chart between engines. There are optimal gearing ratios for every car, if you're talking about adjustable gearing ratios to fight on drag strips, sorry but that's for racing purposes and doesn't apply to production cars.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2014, 10:23 AM)
as i said, in a conventional ICE, max power comes at 6-7k rpm , at 3-4k rpm max torque level, you dont get full power., hence you wont get full acceleration.
if you got a gearbox that lets you rev to max power sooner, and stay there.. then if both cars with same horsepower+torque, the one with the gearing advantage to let you do so will accelerate faster.
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Every naturally aspirated Internal Combustion Engine have the characteristics as you said. But you need to understand that the peak torque range is affected by:
1) Camshaft timing & lift
2) Shape of the combustion chamber
3) The design of cylinder heads (number of valves and position)
4) Shape of the intake manifold/plenum
5) Shape of the exhaust manifold/plenum
6) Length of intake manifold
7) Length of exhaust manifold
8) Length, dimension, and equipments installed on exhaust (4-2-1, s-flow or straight mufflers etc)

There are many factors that determine the torque curves, for example the shape of the combustion chamber, valves, intake manifold exhaust etc etc affects the speed of the intake gas going into the cylinder. Different configurations affects different volumetric efficiency of the engine at different rpm because the ideal engine must have different configurations for different rpm for optimal engine performance at every rpm. This is the reason why manufacturers introduced variable valve timing and lift technologies. Here's some additional info for you, there will be a choke point at which if the speed of the intake gas is higher than the speed of sound, the total volume of the gas that are able to go into the combustion chamber will be dramatically lowered with the added speed.

Did you noticed that normal cars have max torque at lower rpm range to help with drivability while high performance naturally aspirated cars have max torque at really high rpms?

That's just naturally aspirated cars What about forced-induction cars? Turbocharged cars are totally different, take for example a Toyota Supra with twin sequential turbochargers. 90% of the max torque (325 lb ft) of the 2JZ-GTE engine is available from 1300rpm onwards.
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You said that max power rpm must be higher than max torque rpm, but why the chart above indicates the max torque rpm is the same with max power rpm, is this blasphemy? No, sorry just great engineering.

QUOTE(john_white @ Sep 18 2014, 10:30 AM)
oi2 ini thread moto lah bkn engineering yada2
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2014, 01:17 PM)

Gearing/gearbox doesn't affect the outcome at all. Gearing ratios are calculated from the given engine's power and torque chart. The one that would affect the outcome is the difference in torque and power chart between
err.. you calculate the cars real world performance, taking into account all the drive train components until the rubber hits the tarmac..
so engine alone doesnt tell the whole picture.. you need to take into account gearbox, drive ratios, component losses.. wheel size etc..

3 same cars same engine /weight, with 3 different gearbox (say 4speed auto vs 5speed manual vs CVT) gonna give 3 different real world results.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2014, 01:17 PM)

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You said that max power rpm must be higher than max torque rpm, but why the chart above indicates the max torque rpm is the same with max power rpm, is this blasphemy? No, sorry just great engineering.
look at the torque curve la.. thats like few % higher at the higher rpm.. effectively quite flat torque table..
but why dont you dare say max torque is higher than max power in this case.. biggrin.gif at most also nearing same rpm range..
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err.. you calculate the cars real world performance, taking into account all the drive train components until the rubber hits the tarmac..
so engine alone doesnt tell the whole picture.. you need to take into account gearbox, drive ratios, component losses.. wheel size etc..

3 same cars same engine /weight, with 3 different gearbox (say 4speed auto vs 5speed manual vs CVT) gonna give 3 different  real world results.
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Sure, but as I said, as in previous post I'm explaining the different effects of the torque and horsepower. When comparing things everything else must be the same.

Remember even graphics's card reviewers would use exactly the same computer to benchmark many different graphic cards. If one system using AMD FX6300 + GTX 780 Ti compared to Intel 4670K + AMD R9 290X. The results of the benchmark cannot be compared because the computer systems used were different.

Talking about different gearbox would be another matter when we are discussing about torque and horsepowers.
If you want to talk about gearbox then the all others have to be constant to evaluate the pro and cons of different gearboxes.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 18 2014, 01:26 PM)
look at the torque curve la.. thats like few % higher at the higher rpm.. effectively quite flat torque table..
but why dont  you dare say max torque is higher than max power in this case..  biggrin.gif  at most also nearing same rpm range..
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I put out the chart just to remind you that different engine designs give different power/torque charts...

In the end just refer back to the most basic, paling basic punya 3 equations I posted before.
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Ok soli soli i stop now.

nak kasih balik pangkal jalan.

Lampu motor KTM ni banyak hodoh cam beruk man.
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QUOTE(arif85124 @ Nov 7 2013, 09:39 AM)
not ride both, but i never see ktm cilok like ex5
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2014, 01:35 PM)
Ok soli soli i stop now.

nak kasih balik pangkal jalan.

Lampu motor KTM ni banyak hodoh cam beruk man.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 18 2014, 01:35 PM)
Ok soli soli i stop now.

nak kasih balik pangkal jalan.

Lampu motor KTM ni banyak hodoh cam beruk man.
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Owh pedulikan otak-otak udang tu bro.....

keep on doing your thing.... VERY INFORMATIVE! rclxms.gif

I learned a lot.

One question thou... StreetFighter bikes (eg. Z800, DUKE690) OK or not
for long distance speed avg 170-180?

Or need superbike type with fairing?
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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Oct 10 2014, 10:09 AM)
Owh pedulikan otak-otak udang tu bro.....

keep on doing your thing.... VERY INFORMATIVE! rclxms.gif

I learned a lot.

One question thou... StreetFighter bikes (eg. Z800, DUKE690) OK or not
for long distance speed avg 170-180?

Or need superbike type with fairing?
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Haha I dunno about riding at 180km/h
My biggest bike was 400cc last time, travel around 90-140km/h only. Over 140km/h got alot wind pressures, maybe can if you install motorcycle windshields. Z800 maybe better for traveling at 180km/h, Duke 690 hp abit low so making it to run 180km/h constantly can stress the engine.
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bunyi ekzos ada mcm superbike ka??? hmm.gif
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Don't buy bike. Dangerous yo! Better stick to driving cars. They're safe and you can pick up chicks.

Girls won't go out with guys riding bike wan. Trust me, I know.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 10 2014, 10:53 AM)
Don't buy bike. Dangerous yo! Better stick to driving cars. They're safe and you can pick up chicks.

Girls won't go out with guys riding bike wan. Trust me, I know.
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cars lame la, stuck in jam. chicks dig ducati and yamaha r1
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 10 2014, 10:53 AM)
Don't buy bike. Dangerous yo! Better stick to driving cars. They're safe and you can pick up chicks.

Girls won't go out with guys riding bike wan. Trust me, I know.
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Riding bike can pecut and then brake. Got some sort of airbag pushing at t\your back brows.gif brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Oct 10 2014, 11:34 AM)
cars lame la, stuck in jam.  chicks dig ducati and yamaha r1
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Riding bike can pecut and then brake. Got some sort of airbag pushing at t\your back  brows.gif  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Chicks spend more on their hair than you do on your helmet la. You think they want to ride moto meh. No way.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 10 2014, 12:12 PM)
Chicks spend more on their hair than you do on your helmet la. You think they want to ride moto meh. No way.
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Ni baru keluar Gua Nia ke?

Chick tanak rider big bike?? ahahahaha laugh.gif

Helmet for chick we use Nolan lah..... not pasar malam LTD laugh.gif
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 6 2013, 07:58 PM)
You mean mopeds?
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He meant this
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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Oct 10 2014, 04:07 PM)
Ni baru keluar Gua Nia ke?

Chick  tanak rider big bike?? ahahahaha  laugh.gif

Helmet for chick we use Nolan lah..... not pasar malam LTD  laugh.gif
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Chicks memang don't care for big bikes. They spend more on your hair than your Nolan helmets la. One session rebonding can be up to RM600. Many do treatment every 2 months, RM120. Over the course of 2 years already few thousands.

Your Nolan RM2-3k wear until stinky also no change. You think chicks want to wear? LOL!
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 10 2014, 04:23 PM)
Chicks memang don't care for big bikes. They spend more on your hair than your Nolan helmets la. One session rebonding can be up to RM600. Many do treatment every 2 months, RM120. Over the course of 2 years already few thousands.

Your Nolan RM2-3k wear until stinky also no change. You think chicks want to wear? LOL!
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Whateva feggit... real girl don't gip a shit about plastic hair laugh.gif

the trill of open air much much better than sitting in stinkin car whist you
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hai, anyone own ktm rc390 or rc200?

any review and problems?
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QUOTE(khelben @ Nov 6 2013, 07:58 PM)
You mean mopeds?
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mopeds is better and cheaper
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QUOTE(shahringhan @ Dec 3 2014, 08:44 AM)
hai, anyone own ktm rc390 or rc200?

any review and problems?
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its CKD sure got problem lah like duke

but its covered by 2 year warranty(unlimited mileage; so kasi hantammm) 2-3 iteration should be fine

1st batch sure ade 'bug'

RC should be better at speeding than duke; seating position + fairing

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meh 180 only.. but true la. single cylinder engine will lost power at high rpm. and u'll be lucky to reach the machine top speed.
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QUOTE(LightNightbreed @ Dec 3 2014, 09:01 AM)
meh 180 only.. but true la. single cylinder engine will lost power at high rpm. and u'll be lucky to reach the machine top speed.
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top speed not really the strength

but based on the weight to power ratio...pick up mencanakkk
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Dec 3 2014, 09:11 AM)
top speed not really the strength

but based on the weight to power ratio...pick up mencanakkk
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thats the upside of having just 1 cylinder. used to be fan of KTM but my taste slightly changed.

the looks btw really badass. rclxms.gif
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service oso murahhhh

nak buat valve checking/readjust ? ....tak sampai ribu mcm moto 4 dapur
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Dec 3 2014, 09:11 AM)
top speed not really the strength

but based on the weight to power ratio...pick up mencanakkk
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you guys so slow la.
/k bikers sudah bawak jalan jalan dalam sepang lagi.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Dec 25 2014, 09:48 AM)

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moto ketam ni quality ok ka? aku suspek sikit dgn moto2 kontinental ni, nampak mmg lawa tapi takut pakai 1 2 tahun mcm2 kaput.

aku punye lc135 dari 2007 sampai skrg mcm boss bawak aku pegi kerja hari2.

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