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defqon1
post May 14 2014, 04:33 AM

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Hi, Just got the HTL9100 philips fidelio from Legends Sri Petaling at RM2299 + RM99 for the Philips media player which I believe it's actually complimentary from philips anyway doesn't bother me much as it's still cheaper to be compare with Harvey or seng heng which is now selling at rm2699. Retail price is RM2999. Well must admit I really like this soundbar. It sounds great, it’s versatile, and I think the surround-on-demand option is a really neat idea. If you want good sound without the hassle of trailing cables and fiddly set-ups, this is the way to go. Anyway just want to find out with you guys about the cable connection for audio and video. FYI, I m hooking up this system with my Sony Smart tv. Question 1:Which cable actually gives or produce the best AUDIO output from my tv to the soundbar? Is it the HDMI or Optical cable?
Question 2: Which cable can pump out the best video from Philip Media player to my Sony Tv? should I use the HDMI ARC or supposed just normal HDMI input for video connection? PLs advice. Cheers!
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post May 14 2014, 05:15 AM

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QUOTE(defqon1 @ May 14 2014, 04:33 AM)
Hi, Just got the HTL9100 philips fidelio from Legends Sri Petaling at RM2299 + RM99 for the Philips media player which I believe it's actually complimentary from philips anyway doesn't bother me much as it's still cheaper to be compare with Harvey or seng heng which is now selling at rm2699. Retail price is RM2999. Well must admit I really like this soundbar. It sounds great, it’s versatile, and I think the surround-on-demand option is a really neat idea. If you want good sound without the hassle of trailing cables and fiddly set-ups, this is the way to go. Anyway just want to find out with you guys about the cable connection for audio and video. FYI, I m hooking up this system with my Sony Smart tv. Question 1:Which cable actually gives or produce the best AUDIO output from my tv to the soundbar? Is it the HDMI or Optical cable?
Question 2:  Which cable can pump out the best video from Philip Media player to my Sony Tv? should I use the HDMI ARC or supposed just normal HDMI input for video connection? PLs advice. Cheers!
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1) Both. HDMI and Optical are digital connections, doesn't matter which you use.
2) Read no.1.
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post May 14 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 14 2014, 05:15 AM)
1) Both. HDMI and Optical are digital connections, doesn't matter which you use.
2) Read no.1.
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Thanks a ton, BTW, what's this ARC cable all about? I can see from my TV and soundbar description saying both are supported and are built in with ARC carriage. Is that really necessary for me to hook up the the HDMI-ARC to both console and what's that can I really get from there? Is is just the for audio or any chances of enhancement through this ARC I supposed?
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post May 14 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(defqon1 @ May 14 2014, 04:33 AM)
Hi, Just got the HTL9100 philips fidelio from Legends Sri Petaling at RM2299 + RM99 for the Philips media player which I believe it's actually complimentary from philips anyway doesn't bother me much as it's still cheaper to be compare with Harvey or seng heng which is now selling at rm2699. Retail price is RM2999. Well must admit I really like this soundbar. It sounds great, it’s versatile, and I think the surround-on-demand option is a really neat idea. If you want good sound without the hassle of trailing cables and fiddly set-ups, this is the way to go. Anyway just want to find out with you guys about the cable connection for audio and video. FYI, I m hooking up this system with my Sony Smart tv. Question 1:Which cable actually gives or produce the best AUDIO output from my tv to the soundbar? Is it the HDMI or Optical cable?
Question 2:  Which cable can pump out the best video from Philip Media player to my Sony Tv? should I use the HDMI ARC or supposed just normal HDMI input for video connection? PLs advice. Cheers!
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I also have surround on demand with my traditionak 5.1 speakers setup..
When there is demand for surround sound, I roll out the cables to the rear speakers
and roll it back up when there is no demand!!!
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post May 14 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(defqon1 @ May 14 2014, 09:26 AM)
Thanks a ton, BTW, what's this ARC cable all about? I can see from my TV and soundbar description saying both are supported and are built in with ARC carriage. Is that really necessary for me to hook up the the HDMI-ARC to both console and what's that can I really get from there? Is is just the for audio or any chances of enhancement through this ARC I supposed?
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ARC is for the audios of HDMI devices connected to your TV directed to your soundbar without the need to connect directly to soundbar
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post May 14 2014, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 14 2014, 05:15 AM)
1) Both. HDMI and Optical are digital connections, doesn't matter which you use.
2) Read no.1.
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hdmi support newer lossless format like dolby true hd and dts master audio.
optical cannot sad.gif

QUOTE(Matrix @ May 14 2014, 10:29 AM)
I also have surround on demand with my traditionak 5.1 speakers setup..
When there is demand for surround sound, I roll out the cables to the rear speakers
and roll it back up when there is no demand!!!
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surround on demand!!! lol
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post May 14 2014, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(defqon1 @ May 14 2014, 09:26 AM)
Thanks a ton, BTW, what's this ARC cable all about? I can see from my TV and soundbar description saying both are supported and are built in with ARC carriage. Is that really necessary for me to hook up the the HDMI-ARC to both console and what's that can I really get from there? Is is just the for audio or any chances of enhancement through this ARC I supposed?
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ARC can pass thru all sound from tv channel and other inputs to this port.

QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 14 2014, 11:42 AM)
ARC is for the audios of HDMI devices connected to your TV directed to your soundbar without the need to connect directly to soundbar
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can say so nod.gif
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post May 14 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 14 2014, 11:56 AM)
hdmi support newer lossless format like dolby true hd and dts master audio.
optical cannot sad.gif

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The HTL9100 doesn't decode DDTHD or DTSMA, so it doesn't mean jack. I was explaining in the that context.
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post May 17 2014, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Dannyoski @ May 7 2014, 01:44 PM)
Bought LG 4530 soundbar yesterday at rm 990 in penang.
2.1CH sound not bad when direct compare to the sound from the TV....

The soundbar matched perfectly and looks neat and tidy under my Sony W904A LED TV ....unlike the full home theater system in my HT room.

Overall pretty impressed by the SQ for a sub 1k sound system.
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Hi.

Can I ask where in Penang?
How does speech/dialogue sounds on the 4530?

Thanks.
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post May 19 2014, 11:47 PM

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I wanna buy a ~1k soundbar too. Any recommendation?
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post May 20 2014, 08:42 AM

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Hi all, isn't the soundbar only produce "virtual" surround? Really do not consider at least entry level of 5.1? If "wires" is the concern, the wireless rear speakers should be the work around solution rite?

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post May 20 2014, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(xelamil @ May 17 2014, 03:24 PM)
Hi.

Can I ask where in Penang?
How does speech/dialogue sounds on the 4530?

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I bought at BHL symphony park. Last unit there. Try other branch.

Guess everywhere clearing their old stock now ... good bargain time...

i tested the 1k to 3k sound bar on few model and this 4530 do the 2.1CH job for me .....just the sub abit boomy.

I recommend you to go audition ..... diff ppl got diff taste and requirement. Not the sound ..but the outlook as well...
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post May 21 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Dannyoski @ May 20 2014, 09:06 AM)
I bought at BHL symphony park. Last unit there. Try other branch.

Guess everywhere clearing their old stock now ... good bargain time...

i tested the 1k to 3k sound bar on few model and this 4530 do the 2.1CH job for me .....just the sub abit boomy.

I recommend you to go audition ..... diff ppl got diff taste and requirement. Not the sound ..but the outlook as well...
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Tried the 4530 at 2 outlet but cannot hear the virtual surround sound, Sony CT-220 also failed. Then I tried the pioneer
SBX-N700 (RM1699)... Woah, the sound is very nice and can easily replace those entry level HT 5.1. The soundbar got built in 2 speaker and 2 mini subwoofer on the bar. Tried avatar and some action movies really feel the bass and dialogue is clear too. It also have built in media player function, which I think pretty useful. However, I still prefer a HT5.1 for the same price because of 1 thing, even with just the front speaker it gives a more convincing surround sound compare with soundbar. So, it is better to go hear it for yourself to decide.

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post May 22 2014, 03:04 PM

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Everyone, please, please, PLEASE keep in mind that when you test soundbars in stores/shops, do take into account of your surroundings. Soundbars sound like utter crap in a wide open area because they have no walls to reflect their sound to, they are simply not powerful and dynamic enough give you that upfront detail while continuing to provide a wide soundstage on their own.

So doesn't mean a soundbar that sounds like trash in a store will actually sound like a pig in your bedroom or small living room. They will sound different.

Lost count on the amount of times that people got suckered into buying something by the store employees simply because they get to earn a higher commission.
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post May 27 2014, 11:24 AM

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i'm using panasonic 5.1 sound bar
just wondering why the movie voice is low but the action when explode is loud..
anything wrong with the setup?
mostly playing MKV file..around 8gb to 10gb file...
how to increase the voice when they speak?

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post May 31 2014, 11:43 AM

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any review on Samsung HW-F751? if compare to LG nb4530a? which is better?

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post May 31 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(ckthang10 @ May 31 2014, 11:43 AM)
any review on Samsung HW-F751? if compare to LG nb4530a? which is better?
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Samsung HW-F751 better, LG NB4530 just increase the sound volume IMO. But if you really want soundbar get the Pioneer SBX-N700 which around same price as the samsung. Else if you have the extra space then just get the HTiB bcoz it sounds better.
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post May 31 2014, 12:29 PM

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I still undecided on which model to go for....still considering....
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post May 31 2014, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(glamour @ May 27 2014, 11:24 AM)
i'm using panasonic 5.1 sound bar
just wondering why the movie voice is low but the action when explode is loud..
anything wrong with the setup?
mostly playing MKV file..around 8gb to 10gb file...
how to increase the voice when they speak?
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Not sure if your sound bar would have the same function. But try to find in your SETUP menu for the function to adjust the output for the various channels, i.e. FRONT LEFT, FRONT RIGHT, FRON CENTER, SURROUND LEFT, SURROUND RIGHT & SUBWOOFER.

Increase the channel output for FRONT CENTER.

You can also adjust other channels to suit your listening position.

Some advanced sound bars come with a mic for auto calibration by the sound bar system.

This post has been edited by joker98: May 31 2014, 02:56 PM
ckthang10
post Jun 6 2014, 11:50 PM

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I have asked SEC Penang today for HTL9100 philips fidelio, I was quoted RM 2599, expensive? any comment?

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