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mujinkun
post Jan 5 2016, 02:09 PM

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Thanks for the feedback and advise.
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post Jan 5 2016, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 5 2016, 01:32 PM)
If the soundbar you are going to buy has enough HDMI ports for all your devices, then just connect everything directly to it via HDMI. Then HDMI out to your TV. Keep it simple.

If not, then devices > TV via HDMI > soundbar via optical.

Understand that if you choose the 2nd option, your TV may only be able to send DD signals or worse, just 2.0 PCM. TVs that bitstream DD/DTS via optical are VERY rare.
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post Jan 6 2016, 08:16 AM

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Just like to know some sound setting for HT-RT5...

What the best option to use the Sound Field on each occasion?

How to enable/ select DD ProLogic II, DTS-NEO, etc on the fly?

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post Jan 6 2016, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(replicator @ Dec 4 2015, 10:33 PM)
I received my RT5 today. The volume is little bit slow even set to max. I already connect my TV to soundbar using HDMI ARC and be able to control using TV remote. TV has been set to use audio speaker instead of TV speaker. Any idea to increase the volume?

Previously, the demo set auditoned at the HN was quite loud.
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Owned one RT5 since November'15, waiting for other to review if the same 'issue' i have and i see the same here - Volume is slow even at max for HDMI inputs (specific AstroHD) but fine with Bluetooth input.

Connection - Astro HD -(HDMI)-> RT5 -(HDMI Output)-> TV (Samsung).
Not using ARC on this TV.

Literally to compare on HDMI inputs, my Samsung UA-50ES5500 TV is louder than this RT5 at max volume. (i think 20W vs 550W?).

Changed HDMI cable to no difference.
Explored bringing up the volume from Astro Decoder itself but no change - it shouldn't anyway as the audio is transmitted digitally.
Explored Optical but understand will loose DD, which is available on HD channels i watch the most.

I plan to get another HDMI input (i.e. blueray/dvd) to isolate if this is specific from the AstroHD Decoder box but any other ideas without investing on this blueray/dvd that i seldom will use?

Its not a major issue as it is clear enough at 35-40 volume levels, but i don't see a major difference of dB either at max 50 volume level.

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post Jan 6 2016, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(alfatih @ Jan 6 2016, 01:20 PM)
Owned one RT5 since November'15, waiting for other to review if the same 'issue' i have and i see the same here - Volume is slow even at max for HDMI inputs (specific AstroHD) but fine with Bluetooth input.

Connection - Astro HD -(HDMI)-> RT5 -(HDMI Output)-> TV (Samsung).
Not using ARC on this TV.

Literally to compare on HDMI inputs, my Samsung UA-50ES5500 TV is louder than this RT5 at max volume. (i think 20W vs 550W?).

Changed HDMI cable to no difference.
Explored bringing up the volume from Astro Decoder itself but no change - it shouldn't anyway as the audio is transmitted digitally.
Explored Optical but understand will loose DD, which is available on HD channels i watch the most.

I plan to get another HDMI input (i.e. blueray/dvd) to isolate if this is specific from the AstroHD Decoder box but any other ideas without investing on this blueray/dvd that i seldom will use?

Its not a major issue as it is clear enough at 35-40 volume levels, but i don't see a major difference of dB either at max 50 volume level.
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My Samsung LED TV (2011/2012) when selecting the external speaker -> Optical out to Soundbar, then when Astro on HD channel such as HBO or FOX HD is selected, I'm able to select from the system to output DD or PCM to the Soundbar (I selected DD), and before i purchase the Soundbar, when connecting to Century old Jamo AMP, the AMP is showing DD with all the 6 channel lit up.

The sound from the HT-RT5 though quite low when connecting Astro HD (when selecting from Astro setting to output Digital only), but on my previous Amp also quite low compared to the if I select Digital/Analogue only from the Astro.


I think we can up the speaker dB from the audio setting to up the sound.

Only the problem now is, My Samsung TV is not able to use the ARC function using cable supplied by Sony.
My Samsung SMART TV is the only media hub (I played Movie and Audio) at the moments.

This post has been edited by mujinkun: Jan 6 2016, 02:43 PM
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post Jan 6 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Jan 6 2016, 08:16 AM)
Just like to know some sound setting for HT-RT5...

What the best option to use the Sound Field on each occasion?

How to enable/ select DD ProLogic II, DTS-NEO, etc on the fly?

Reguards
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Your preference, there's no "best". Tonally, the Movie/Standard setting is the most "accurate" one. But accuracy is a very relative term in audio, so yeah again up to you.

You can't switch upmixing features like DDPL or DTS-Neo on the fly. It doesn't work that way, you select one and stick with it. Alternatively, you can just use ClearAudio+ and all stereo sources will be upmixed into 5.1 irregardless.


QUOTE(alfatih @ Jan 6 2016, 01:20 PM)
Owned one RT5 since November'15, waiting for other to review if the same 'issue' i have and i see the same here - Volume is slow even at max for HDMI inputs (specific AstroHD) but fine with Bluetooth input.

Connection - Astro HD -(HDMI)-> RT5 -(HDMI Output)-> TV (Samsung).
Not using ARC on this TV.

Literally to compare on HDMI inputs, my Samsung UA-50ES5500 TV is louder than this RT5 at max volume. (i think 20W vs 550W?).

Changed HDMI cable to no difference.
Explored bringing up the volume from Astro Decoder itself but no change - it shouldn't anyway as the audio is transmitted digitally.
Explored Optical but understand will loose DD, which is available on HD channels i watch the most.

I plan to get another HDMI input (i.e. blueray/dvd) to isolate if this is specific from the AstroHD Decoder box but any other ideas without investing on this blueray/dvd that i seldom will use?

Its not a major issue as it is clear enough at 35-40 volume levels, but i don't see a major difference of dB either at max 50 volume level.
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I've heard of a few issues about low volume on the RT5. I do not have that issue, volume at 30 is plenty loud for me (certainly louder than an TV volume). Of course, loudness is a very subjective thing as well. What may be loud to me may not be to you. Environment plays a vital part in loudness too btw.

Either ways, I have not tried Astro with the RT5 and I don't even use Astro anymore. So I'm not sure what the settings are needed under the decoder. It sounds to me like your decoder is sending the wrong audio signals to the RT5, resulting in the wrong dynamic range, thus low volume. Are there any audio settings on your Astro that you may have to switch? Preferably for the decoder to at least encode all audio streams into DD 5.1 first instead of maybe sending 2.0 PCM?
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post Jan 6 2016, 04:39 PM

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post Jan 6 2016, 04:46 PM

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recently got the samsung HW J551, and would like to see how many uses this model?

the sound quality is not as good as i thought it to be ...
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post Jan 6 2016, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Jan 6 2016, 02:17 PM)
My Samsung LED TV (2011/2012) when selecting the external speaker -> Optical out to Soundbar, then when Astro on HD channel such as HBO or FOX HD is selected, I'm able to select from the system to output DD or PCM to the Soundbar (I selected DD), and before i purchase the Soundbar, when connecting to Century old Jamo AMP, the AMP is showing DD with all the 6 channel lit up.
Thanks! So there is still hope in Optical. need to research this further if Astro Byond decoders support DD. Anyone?

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 6 2016, 04:06 PM)
Either ways, I have not tried Astro with the RT5 and I don't even use Astro anymore. So I'm not sure what the settings are needed under the decoder. It sounds to me like your decoder is sending the wrong audio signals to the RT5, resulting in the wrong dynamic range, thus low volume. Are there any audio settings on your Astro that you may have to switch? Preferably for the decoder to at least encode all audio streams into DD 5.1 first instead of maybe sending 2.0 PCM?
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Yes - have switch to Digital Audio in Astro Byond as here
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post Jan 13 2016, 11:13 AM

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Guys,

for under RM1000, which model should i go for?

CT380, samsung 551? or anything else?


thanks in advance
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post Jan 17 2016, 10:09 AM

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Any advise on the SPL meter? Brand, price, etc?
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post Jan 17 2016, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Krools @ Jan 13 2016, 11:13 AM)
Guys,

for under RM1000, which model should i go for?

CT380, samsung 551? or anything else?
thanks in advance
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post Jan 18 2016, 12:14 PM

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thanks bro...

Sony HT-CT380 (cheapest i found rm799) then...
Philip HTL3140b seem hard to find nowaday...

QUOTE(sonerin @ Jan 17 2016, 10:47 AM)
Sony
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post Jan 18 2016, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Krools @ Jan 18 2016, 12:14 PM)
thanks bro...

Sony HT-CT380 (cheapest i found rm799) then...
Philip HTL3140b seem hard to find nowaday...
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Where you found 799 ?
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post Jan 18 2016, 12:30 PM

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http://www.mudah.my/Sony+bluetooth+nfc+sou...80-43347503.htm

But samsung hwj551 also seem nice n also below rm1k.

Sony CT380 vs Samsung HJW551?
*im using samsung tv anyway.

QUOTE(sonerin @ Jan 18 2016, 12:20 PM)
Where you found 799 ?
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post Jan 18 2016, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Krools @ Jan 18 2016, 12:30 PM)
http://www.mudah.my/Sony+bluetooth+nfc+sou...80-43347503.htm

But samsung hwj551 also seem nice n also below rm1k.

Sony CT380 vs Samsung HJW551?
*im using samsung tv anyway.
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Ah.....is better to have same brand. Personally I just like Sony better.
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post Jan 18 2016, 03:08 PM

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Performance wise?

QUOTE(sonerin @ Jan 18 2016, 01:35 PM)
Ah.....is better to have same brand. Personally I just like Sony better.
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post Jan 18 2016, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Krools @ Jan 18 2016, 03:08 PM)
Performance wise?
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Have not audition Samsung, not sure
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post Jan 21 2016, 12:33 PM

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has anyone tried Samsung's curved soundbar HWJ8501? any comments?
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post Jan 21 2016, 01:01 PM

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Got my Sony CT380

Awesome. Positioning is important. If you're listening off axis it may sound a bit odd/veiled. But if you are directly in front it is alright.

Midrange could be better --> but my setup prior to this were Canadian made PSB Alpha bookshelves driven by Cambridge amp. So, for a sound bar it is pretty good already.

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