I am a 3rd class degree holder. It is a better-then-nothing paper, but there are still company out there that value your degree paper. It might be a bit harder to find your first relevent job - it has took me 1 freaking long year to find my current job... felt extremely frustrated especially those bank ads all saying "2nd-class-uppder and above" really jialat.

But when you start working, make sure you learn as much as possible and after 1-2 years, you can show off your experience and skill(especially interpersonal skill) then this 3rd class maybe less an issue to you.

But i didn't go out find any other job yet, not planning to do so

owww, i am like that too last time, in MMU, while i am doing industrial training, they called me that i need to go back for subpaper, and it is 2 days away... O.o so i gave up the sub paper, and ends up i hv to wait a whole damn year just to retake that paper...

This post has been edited by rexis: Jun 15 2006, 01:41 PM

eyy... degree sure got class one mahh, no matter its a 'normal' degree or 'normal' 3rd class degree. Btw, mine one got 'honours' somemore. But seriously i think of all these empty degree paper are no use. Most likely an employer will hire a first class honours guy that could not do anything but complain a lot.

Yup, agreed, it's the attitude that counts. The results counts too, but not exam results, but working results

Exam results, are sh!ts IMHO. These useless numbers unable to show what is one person is truely good at, maybe co-curiculum data is more useful then a 10A student.

Thats why, these 1st, 2nd, 3rd classes are shit, for god sake my CGPA is only 0.06 away from the bloody 2nd class lower. Some university can set their 1st class CGPA requirement lower(but there should b some guidelines), some can adjust their exam results to produce enough 1st class students to make them look handsome(actually maybe all students cant even reach 50% marks, so uni marks are confidential).

CGPA is only outside thing, what is inside your head, is your real property, nobody can take it away.

Ehhhh, you think scoring 3rd class easy ahh! Is going thru the pressure of taking sub paper and the feel of walking by the cliff is easy you say? Those who do not study do not care and not dedicated at all, will not even graduate! A university give you a 3rd class degree doesnt mean that they give you a toilet paper, this paper spells some good quality of you!

A carpenter might rate a good stainless steal kitchen knife as useless, but finds a rusty nail to be more useful. Same, a cook will have no use of a chainsaw, but make good use of a fruit knife. But we should not wait for the carpenter or cook to find you, we should find them.

Know your true value, and work on it, not wait for luck.

2nd class lower should be 2.65 n above, how can 3rd class = 2.9? I see my sis study day and night also only got 2.80, study so hard only score 3rd class?

Below 2.65? Like me 2.59

AFAIK, usually i see MNC and bank hiring IT and management degree will mention about "2nd class upper and above", let them get their bookworms, no matter. But engineering degree i rarely see them mentioning about what class they want, of course you score higher you get bigger change, but what i understand is engineering field more focus on what you know.

Correct me if im wrong!

This post has been edited by rexis: Jun 17 2006, 09:44 AM

Wow this thread is wordy.

This thread could go forever, two years back, i was asking should i burn my 3rd class degree on the star(anyone remember?) and got a page full of replies few days later . Now obviously we are still facing the same question.

With 60k degree holders walking down the street, we are getting nowhere. Heres one fact, complain less, do more. It is very true that graduates, students, young people today love to complain complain complain. Why dont have this? Why dont have that? Why why why why?

And in most case, they blame others rather then blaming themselves.

Is the degree papers actually limiting one self rather then opening more options? Degree holders are not willing to do those so-called non-related job. IT degree want IT job, Accounting want to work in big 4, Engineering dont want to do sales...

It might take sometime for them to face the reality of that they will be no longer spoon fed by papa and mama or teacher. They have to experience the thing first before they can really learn anything.

When we grow older, we will realised that the things we did before was so ridiculous. And if we trying to tell our experience to the juniors, they simply think we are talking too much.

My quote is "If you have a lemon, nobody say you cant make a milkshake!"

yay, give me five, 3rd class degree club member here, should really consider starting a 3rd class degree club at kopitiam!

Years back, my friend entered hospital after exam and she has failed 2 diploma exam papers that semester due to sickness. She need to take daily medicine for life to control her sickness, and easily fell sick whenever shes stressful or overpush herself.

And now she has graduated as a degree holder(thou 2nd class lower), and continue taking ACCA! Kudos to her!

Ahh, i guess thats the main problem why they can secure a job easily, for not confident enough.

Getting into a university is not the ultimate success, getting out from a university is the real challenge.
Getting a degree paper is not the end of story, being able to secure a job and live a life is the reality.
Getting a job doesn't mean you are already successful, so many more development at your job and at yourself are needed for not being obsolete.

Journey of life never stop until you are dead, and someone else continues your journey.

Why still want to see your cert if boss know you can do your job nicely?

I got a friend, 2nd class upper, IT degree, and she has been unemployed for more then 1 year. Most of her 3rd class friends all got their job but she just unable to look for any relevent job! Sometimes, life really sucks and your luck matters a lot.

Now she went to UK and work as a waitress and saving about 800 pound per month...

Just like my old independence highschool teacher told me,

Top students come back become colleague;
Worst students come back and become the school CEO...