Ok, this is from my buddy, who also has a Third Class Degree Honours. What he has told me over the years sounds very true.

1. Employers will usually shortlist those who are Second Class Lower and above. Third Class Degree or General Degree are often left out. Nevertheless, it does not mean you cannot get a job. Heck, they are people sweeping the streets and still make a living. Do not think of Third Class as nothing.

2. In life, if you want to make it big, you probably cant depend too much on career. Of course, hardworking is a very positive quality and many companies would pay one person who is really hardworking to multitask, then to pay an average two person to do the same amount of job.

3. My grandpa used to say in Hokkien "How much you wear, how much you eat, how much you earn is all fated." Do not be discouraged of poor results. Make sure you can perform.

4. MOST IMPORTANT POINT, SKILLZ - How many Degree holders has the proper skills? Heck, I have classmates who cant even install Windows XP Pro when he graduated with Second Upper Honours. What does the Degree teaches us? Database design? Software analysis? Programming? Tech support? Microsoft Word even? This is also one of the many reasons, majority females who graduated in IT end up working in other fields. However, they are also very good IT-women out there, quite a few I know who are better than men.

5. NEXT IMPORTANT POINT, INTERPERSONAL SKILLZ - Believe it or not, many organization still thinks that oversea-grads and First Class grads are snobs. The management also know how to utilise manpower. To think about hiring someone First Class and hard-headed. Why not hire someone lower class Degree and bully him. This part, you gotta live with it. Because you suck at your education, you gotta make it up with hardwork. Many First Class grads usually think they are better off than other people and have poor interpersonal and social skills. Not kidding but I'm not stereotyping.

6. Since you already know you screwed up your education, then you make it up with hardwork. Like others have written, working life is a new gateway, a new life. Just like how it was before you stepped into your first day in school. It's also your LAST stage in life before you retire, so dont screw up anymore. If there is ever a time you need to work hard and get up, it's NOW!

This is what happened to my friend who dont even have Degree at all. He only studied till Advanced Dip due to finance problems. He then worked for 2 years before going for his Degree.

He went to interview. He is confident and all my life I know he's a good talker, just poor and not much opportunity.

He said to the interviewer, sorta argued even I think cause I dont know how he say it exactly but he went on saying something like this.

"Degree wont even teach you how to trouble shoot Exchange server! If you give me an opportunity to work here, I will not disappoint you. If I do not perform to my expected pay, you dont have to pay me. I pack at the end of the month."

Because of guts, he was hired. No kidding man.

Went out few hours, this post become so long already. Lazy to read.

As for my friend who I posted here, well, he knows his stuff and he is confident. Sometimes people only need an opportunity to prove themselves. If he met a pariah boss thats only there to exploit him, his nasib la.

But when he was desperate, he used his ace (though some of u think it's silly), but well it worked. Now he's team leader in Seremban and recently bought a new house in Shah Alam somemore... Not bad eh?

I would have told them off in the face. Dont waste my time too. It's not a matter of you want their job, you have to respect them but its mutual. Afterall, they dont own the damn thing, they work there too.

Just because your results dont look so bright does not give them the right to step all over you. Best thing you can do is protect yourself and give it to them straight, honest, direct but not harsh.

Different people, different views. We are here to learn from one another, not start a war.

If your results are poor, like a 3rd Class Degree, then you make it up with hardwork. No doubt, many fool around during their college days but there are really some of those unfortunate ones.

You reap what you sow is true. Just be prepared for things. Who knows you might get lucky. From what you read from Page 1 - 4, so many 3rd Class or General Degree holders still manage to secure a job.

Work is not all about educational achievements. It's more than that, dealing with people, social skills, hardwork, how you get along with others, and in my humble opinion - the most important two points are:
1. Problem solving skills
2. Ability to multi-task

Cannot study does not mean cannot work. Likewise, can study does not mean can work.

I know a girl who is the top student of her year throughout her life. Best of the best results, scholarships, etc. Praises from church, gives tuition, people worship her educational achievements. But bad point is she cant seem to get along with people at work no matter where she went.

There are many kinds of people, you are one type, he is another. There are many kinds of situation, he was in one that you may not ever be in. You may experience a situation in an interview where he may not understand even if he imagined it. Sometimes interview depends on luck too. Do not let poor results pull you down. Make it up to yourself by dedicating more time and effort into your work. Afterall, you will be walking this path call WORK for the next 30 or so years of your life, till you retire and wait for death to take you.

What more is there for you to look forward to if it's not work? People can sweep the floor to make a living. Since you have a 3rd Class, I guess you shouldnt be complaining about starting low. Chinese proverb "Start your way from the bottom and climb your way up."

It's never an easy task. Life was never a bed of roses. All you have to do is choose your allegiance carefully, make alliances and enemies, climb, fight, push, draw, whatever. Just try your best, no regrets is all you ever need.

This is the only advice I can give you all. I started out with it too. "It's time for you to pick up everything you've missed." All that you dont know, all that you wanted to do - the time is now.


Thank you for reading.

This is neverending...

Simply put, if you are strong enough, do not let a paper determine your life. Make it up to yourself for all the things you've missed out.

I have a friend who has a third class degree, works at shell and makes 4k+ per month... So what did you guys say about third class again? You think MNC all hire first class is it?

An interview, a job is more than just what you can do in your education days. Big deal, so you can read, memorize, and pass exams. A job is more like your family, you get along with everyone, teamwork, understanding, learning... Most of the time, interview evaluate ppl more on their interpersonal skills rather than education background.

1st or 2nd class is just a bonus, nothing more.

It does NOT mean you suck at learning... it just show that you are not good with READING.

Aiyaaaa... third class is still good. Even though education is there for everybody there are still people who only have Diploma la... If ppl can find a job, you can. Simple as that. It's all in the head - keep thinking third class degree cannot find job, then you wait for death to take you la.

Ask yourself, how many of your friends do not have a degree even and when you have it at third class, you got nobody else to blame but yourself. From here on out, you strive for what you did not in the past. Savvy?