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 Jan 13 2014, 06:34 PM
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Does anyone have any opinion on RHB-OSK Dana Islam? This find recorded a returns of around 24% over the last one year, but showed quite a scary drop in 2011.
Anyone got any reason to believe of they will / will not preform this year? |
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Jan 13 2014, 06:42 PM
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5,613 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh 
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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 13 2014, 05:52 PM) I hope you all holding Indonesia UT .. today most Indon stocks went up between 5%-15%..... Im holding it bro...not much just 2k in eastspring indo fund... yeah today their Composite index jump 3.6%...    |
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Jan 13 2014, 06:43 PM
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5,613 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh
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QUOTE(ngom52 @ Jan 13 2014, 07:34 PM) Does anyone have any opinion on RHB-OSK Dana Islam? This find recorded a returns of around 24% over the last one year, but showed quite a scary drop in 2011. buy when they are down...dont buy when its going up up up... herd mentality will get you slaughtered...Anyone got any reason to believe of they will / will not preform this year? |
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Jan 13 2014, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 13 2014, 06:43 PM) buy when they are down...dont buy when its going up up up... herd mentality will get you slaughtered... Good advice man, thanks |
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Jan 13 2014, 07:06 PM
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5,613 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh
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QUOTE(ngom52 @ Jan 13 2014, 07:59 PM) Good advice man, thanks if got thailand equity mutual fund oso i will buy it now bro...but FSM dont offer it  ....im investing on countries that is not doing well and on a drop with economic, political, uprising chaos....so i avoid mutual fund that is not specific on any country...hard for me to monitor through their composite index...as rothschild says...buy when there is panic and blood on the streets....you will get it dirt cheap...then sell when everythings being fine and well again... |
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Jan 13 2014, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 13 2014, 08:06 PM) if got thailand equity mutual fund oso i will buy it now bro...but FSM dont offer it can buy specific country like thailand fund in fsm singapore if I am not mistaken......im investing on countries that is not doing well and on a drop with economic, political, uprising chaos....so i avoid mutual fund that is not specific on any country...hard for me to monitor through their composite index...as rothschild says...buy when there is panic and blood on the streets....you will get it dirt cheap...then sell when everythings being fine and well again... |
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Jan 13 2014, 10:13 PM
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5,613 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 13 2014, 08:14 PM) can buy specific country like thailand fund in fsm singapore if I am not mistaken.. Thx for the tip bro! |
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Jan 13 2014, 11:55 PM
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23 posts Joined: Apr 2012
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This is getting weird.
If I purchase a fund at 11.01.2014 SATURDAY at 11am, and right now is 13.01.2014, shouldnt my account have the fund ready already? It is still under pending.. i paid by m2u |
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Jan 14 2014, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(frossbee @ Jan 13 2014, 11:55 PM) This is getting weird. If I purchase a fund at 11.01.2014 SATURDAY at 11am, and right now is 13.01.2014, shouldnt my account have the fund ready already? It is still under pending.. i paid by m2u  Your buy orders will only be transacted when FSM receive your payment. Once FSM received your cheque/Internet bill payment for your orders before 3pm on each business day, your orders will be transacted on the same day. Cheques/Internet bill payment received after 3pm or on a non-business day will be transacted on the next business day.... Saturday & Sunday not working. Most of the unit trusts in Malaysia are priced based on "forward pricing". This means that if you transact today, you will get the fund’s value as of the closing price of the market today. However, you will know the price in two working days I guess is the transaction date is Monday....then 2 days later get the price....but being Tuesday is a holiday..... so......Thursday?http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/faq.svdo?id=1605#1 |
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Jan 14 2014, 10:11 AM
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Tuesday January 14, .....
Foreign funds sell Malaysian equities last week at fastest rate in two months.  i am 33.5% in M'sia EQ  http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-in-two-months/ what the heck...EPF, Insurance funds, TH, Kwap will support with > 3billion annually mah...but will it be good enough? |
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Jan 14 2014, 12:11 PM
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5,613 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 14 2014, 11:11 AM) Tuesday January 14, ..... Yes. I read it too....apparently when our equities market here is doing too well n getting expensive...they will cash out from Malaysia n enter into other cheaper emerging market...strong signs there of what may come...Foreign funds sell Malaysian equities last week at fastest rate in two months. i am 33.5% in M'sia EQ http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-in-two-months/ what the heck...EPF, Insurance funds, TH, Kwap will support with > 3billion annually mah...but will it be good enough? |
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Jan 14 2014, 12:21 PM
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5,613 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh
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QUOTE(frossbee @ Jan 14 2014, 12:55 AM) This is getting weird. Purchase price will be confirm as what FSM tnc said. But ur money will be in floating status T+2 days until FSM claim ur pymt from the fpx system..it may take a few days for this to clear.If I purchase a fund at 11.01.2014 SATURDAY at 11am, and right now is 13.01.2014, shouldnt my account have the fund ready already? It is still under pending.. i paid by m2u This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jan 14 2014, 12:22 PM |
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Jan 14 2014, 01:19 PM
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5,613 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, Ipoh
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Dec 21 2013, 07:01 PM) I'm not an active trader at all - often I just buy then don't check for quite some time. Not looking to sell at present unless significant gains have been made as I'm holding for the long term and looking to diversify rather than sitting on cash. Hi bro, as we discuss a few weeks earlier...since our investment barely a month ago the JKSI has bounce positively so strongly this last 3-4 working days...my unit in eastspring indo equity form -1.5% return bounce back to almost 8.5% gain in less than a week(couting future earning based on JKSI jump of 7% in this 2 days)...whats your take on this? continue to hold in forseeable future or cash out immediately?I'm not heavily invested at the moment - less than 9.5% of my assets are in funds/equities. Although looking to increase this a lot over time, especially the weak MYR hasn't been good to me recently  I'm interested in Indonesia focussed funds too , performance has been pretty poor   But if you look at USDIDR / MYRIDR the IDR has lost a fair bit of value over the last year - but those 2 funds are MYR based so taking into account the currency drop ... fund performance hasn't been too bad just the IDR being cheap! :  The JCI has lost less than 1% during this year. Cheap time to buy Indonesian stocks / funds, tempted  |
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Jan 14 2014, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 9 2014, 10:02 AM) Oh gosh, what was I saying. I meant 2013 minus 2012 ROI figure. Anyhow you don't have 2012 ROI figure. That's fine.. Okay, just calculated. My 10-months (I reformatted my tracking worksheet sometime Jan-13) portfolio total return from Feb-13 to Dec-13 is 6.43%. Ok lar, about same as EPF returns.My formula: total profit / (opening capital invested + total new investments during the period/2) x 100% / 10 x 12 This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 14 2014, 10:03 PM |
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Jan 15 2014, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 14 2014, 10:02 PM) Okay, just calculated. My 10-months (I reformatted my tracking worksheet sometime Jan-13) portfolio total return from Feb-13 to Dec-13 is 6.43%. Ok lar, about same as EPF returns. Looks like you take the average period of your new investment during the year. My formula: total profit / (opening capital invested + total new investments during the period/2) x 100% / 10 x 12 For me I just take total profit / total capital invested. Rationale being in the end I am just closing my book as at December position, and as at December position that is the amount of capital invested. I ignore the fact that total capital invested during the year does not help generate return for the whole year. So just a rough estimate- mine is 6% plus. For 2014 alone ROI I will just take (Total 2014 ROI return - 2013 ROI- 6%). P/S: If I calculate your method, I probably get a bit higher  This post has been edited by TakoC: Jan 15 2014, 10:26 AM |
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Jan 15 2014, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 15 2014, 10:24 AM) P/S: If I calculate your method, I probably get a bit higher |
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Jan 15 2014, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(frossbee @ Jan 13 2014, 11:55 PM) This is getting weird. saturday sunday FSM not working.If I purchase a fund at 11.01.2014 SATURDAY at 11am, and right now is 13.01.2014, shouldnt my account have the fund ready already? It is still under pending.. i paid by m2u they are not operating 24 hours 7 days a week ya. |
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Jan 15 2014, 12:05 PM
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37 posts Joined: Jun 2013
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Newbie here. Check in
Just open fundsupermart account. I'm new to UT. Just bought Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund as my first investment.  Now I'm interested in Indonesia UT. There's only two funds available at FSM. Eastspring and RHB-OSK. But they are newly launched, and there's no data of risk-return ratio or sharpe ratio provided. In this case, how to pick? Thanks. |
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Jan 15 2014, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 13 2014, 06:43 PM) buy when they are down...dont buy when its going up up up... herd mentality will get you slaughtered... i guess now the price of most of the bond fund going down, checked the price per unit last week.btw, the fees for buying/selling/exit for this FSM supposed to be cheaper than buying bond from bank? |
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Jan 15 2014, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jan 15 2014, 12:26 PM) btw, the fees for buying/selling/exit for this FSM supposed to be cheaper than buying bond from bank? i guess the exit fees are controlled by the fundhouse,.thus is the sameSales charges,...i guess FSM is still the cheapest (0%SC),...but it has "platform fees" for bond.... |
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