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post Oct 27 2013, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 27 2013, 05:48 PM)
with due respect to those that criticizing your homeland (sounds like no hope in your country) and with so much of ill feelings, has anyone of you in the process of giving up your nationality ? if yes, it is understood. If not, why then ? Perhaps mind to share ? Thanks.
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You might want to define the concepts of criticism and ill feeling. We criticise what is wrong and unjust. And we bear deep ill feeling towards those people who do wrong things and perpetrate & perpetuate injustice.

But that is not necessarily criticism or ill feeling towards our homeland. Our homeland is not defined by the people who do her wrong. The concept of loving Malaysia is not inseparable from the hating of its politicians or disdain for certain sections of its society and their philosophies.

My nationality is between me and my country. It is not interrupted by the idiocy of its current government nor the corruption, prejudice, racialism or religiosity of some of my more immoral countrymen.

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I love this quote: "Don't kill yourself working this weekend, but I still need that pitch book by Monday morning," says the managing director on a Friday afternoon...

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Is Goldman Sachs Going Soft?
2013-10-29 21:22:12.264 GMT
By Matthew C. Klein

    Oct. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Bloomberg News reports that the life of a young investment banker may be getting a lot better, at least for those who work at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Instead of demanding 100-hour work weeks that include frequent all-nighters and weekends, the bank is now discouraging fresh college grads from coming into the office on Saturdays and Sundays and aiming to "give analysts more-predictable working hours."

    The simple explanation is that Goldman is trying to retain its best talent. Bloomberg News quotes Goldman's co-head of investment banking as saying that he wants "our analysts to be here for a career." Right now, top investment banks pay their young pups as much as $140,000 a year only to have the best of them leave for the sunlit uplands of private equity and hedge funds as soon as they start getting good at their jobs.

    Banks find this trade worthwhile because, as my colleague Matt Levine notes, they work their analysts like dogs. It does tend to encourage the most capable workers to leave as soon as possible, however. Those who remain, or those who join banks after business school as associates, may not be as talented.

    From this perspective, making life better for the best entry- level employees in exchange for decades of committed service would be a good example of Goldman's tendency to be "long-term greedy."

    Assuming the higher-ups actually enforce the new policy -- "Don't kill yourself working this weekend, but I still need that pitch book by Monday morning," says the managing director on a Friday afternoon before walking out the door -- it isn't clear whether the analysts would get paid as much under the new regime. Cutting hours by as much as half while keeping compensation constant would be a huge pay increase. Cutting both hours and pay (with lower bonuses), on the other hand, might be a clever way to help the bank adjust to coming structural changes in the market for big expensive deals.

    There is some evidence to suggest that this may be a consideration behind Goldman's push for fewer working hours.
Andrew Ross Sorkin's latest column describes the falling value and volume of global mergers and acquisitions. One possibility is that companies have finally realized that many mergers are a bad idea. After all, when academics studied more than 12,000 deals made by public companies from 1980 to 2001, they found that these deals ended up destroying a total of $218 billion of shareholder value. Most of that value was destroyed by the biggest combinations, which also happen to be the most profitable ones for investment bankers.

    This global trend might be affecting the section of Goldman's investment banking division that handles mergers and acquisitions. The financial advisory unit, which also advises companies on, among other things, divestitures and risk management, brought in less net revenue over the past four quarters than over any other comparable period since the recession ended.

    Investment banking as a whole has been sustained by a white hot debt underwriting business, although rising interest rates and an increasingly cautious Federal Reserve don't bode well for the future. Goldman has been cutting costs -- especially compensation -- just to prevent profits from shrinking. (The bulk of those cuts have probably been concentrated in Goldman's trading business, which is much larger than its advisory and underwriting businesses.)

    Paying workers less -- and cutting their hours -- would be a reasonable response to a world in which there is less work to be done.

(Matthew C. Klein is a writer for Bloomberg View. Follow him on Twitter.)

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QUOTE(tengah @ Oct 30 2013, 12:20 PM)
About that Chicken rice at Chatter Box. S$32 for chicken rice is a rip off no matter how good it is or if it is at a hotel. There are better things to eat for $32.
You should try their laksa, rojak and ice kacang. Just as pricey. Bad if you have to pay out of your own pocket, but good if you have a company credit card.

But despite the prices, the place is full most of the time.

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Oct 31 2013, 01:22 PM)
Even for the cheapest HDB's kopitiam you can get, I would say the material cost price is only 20 to 30 per cent of what you paying if you cook yourself at home. The 70 per cent you paying for the extra oil, salt and unknown chemicals. Only the rich and healthy can dine out everyday hehe.
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The 70% is for the time & effort required if you had to shop for the ingredients, cook it and wash up afterwards yourself.

The food is not going to shop itself into your fridge and cook itself onto your plate.

It's a trade off each of us has to decide for ourselves. Is the time required for you to shop, cook and wash - worth more or less than the 70% value add you pay to the stall? If your time is less valuable, then do it all yourself by all means. But if you deem your time to be more valuable, then so be it. Eat out.

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Oct 31 2013, 07:43 PM)
I would see it as my health is more valuable than anything else money can buy. Strong believer of "you are what you eat", who knows what ingredients they are serving outside.

On weekdays, we probably spent around 2 hours preparing, cooking, eating and dish washing for 2/3 dishes and 1 soup. Money spent roughly about 300 for 2 person per month, 5 days per week. I don't know how much I need to earn to make spending 2 hours to cook more valuable than eating outside. 5 dollar per hour?

Waiting for the chicken soup to be done then have our 30 minutes dinner and 10 minutes to put all the plates in the dish washer and press a button. Those who have time or place to cook should try, its fun and worth it, plus next time the children no need grow up eating McD all the time.
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I'm not questioning the choices you've made. I only framed the choices available.

And the point that I wanted to get across is that it's pointless to complain about food prices by basing one's argument on the cost of raw materials alone. That's because selling food in Singapore is as much a service as it is a product. A large consideration becomes how much that service component matters or is of value to you.

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QUOTE(paintballtao @ Nov 5 2013, 09:34 PM)
taking taxi in sg is not bad. readily available, no need to pay for coe petrol erp etc etc. i am enjoying my time taking taxis -.-
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You pay the world's most complex system of surcharges, tiered peak/offpeak rates, tiered taxi types and procurement/booking system.

As for availability,.. have you tried getting a taxi at peak hours when it's raining from a busy location like Plaza Singapore, Paragon etc?

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Not quite what I would have instinctively concluded. But I guess it really depends who the survey respondents were:

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 8 2013, 06:02 PM)
prayer rooms in office? No. Never seen one. Space is a premium and they are not going to pay a premium so that a minority few can pray.
If yr a muslim and expect the same convenience or treatments u get in msia, you are in for a wake up call. Even halal food is hard to find (but not impossible unless its fast food). Mosque don't appear in every neighbourhood and taking time off for prayers on fri is frowned upon. And if you think the non muslims in msia are anti muslims wait till you hear what ordinary sgians say about muslims.
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No-lah... they are not anti anything.

They just believe in AIYOT... All In Your Own Time. One's religion is one's personal issue. Spend your own time and money to pursue your personal issues.
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Nov 9 2013, 01:08 AM)
I'm a realist, but most importantly, I'm not a hypocrite.
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You are spot on!!! Don't be a self righteous troll like alascuntbunny.

If that's your opinion, then no fear stating your opinion. There will always be impotent hypocrites trying to feel important on their high horse, trying to infer that your opinion doesn't match their fake morality. You can plainly see that all the "personal experiences" he posts are fake and are merely attention-seeking attempts to mislead newbies so that he can entertain himself at their expense.

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post Nov 11 2013, 08:37 PM

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Not much good news for annual increments on the finance front, I'm afraid.
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Salary Increases: Likely to Be More of the Same in 2014
http://www.cfoinnovation.com/content/salar...-more-same-2014

What about Singapore? “Projected salary increases after inflation will amount to 1.8% in 2014,” reports Quane. “This is down from the 2.2% real wage increases that employees in Singapore are currently experiencing.” This number is based on ECA’s survey of 129 companies in the Lion City.



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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 18 2013, 07:24 PM)
My cousin just manage to get an EP approved by MOM after appeal by his company (being rejected the first time.)
And he has >8 years working experience and earns >SGD6k p.m.
So you tell me easy or hard.
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It's hard because $6K is kinda like the sweet spot where a majority of Singaporean graduates are qualified and willing to do the job. If your cousin was earning $16K or $1.6K, then he'd have much fewer Singaporeans making life difficult for him.

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Nov 18 2013, 08:05 PM)
Singapore graduates gets $6k?
So high?
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Graduates means the section of the Singaporean workforce who are degree holders. To discern them from non-graduate Poly diploma/ITE holders and skilled/unskilled labourers.

If I remember correctly, Singstat puts the average salary of degree holders in Singapore at around $7K.

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Nov 18 2013, 11:27 PM)
I thought its dependant on the number of years of experience, the sector and the position (whether management or not)
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Yes it is. That's how the average comes about.

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I quite sure degree holder in Singapore in the Manufacturing sector, <10 years experience and not in management postition for example, do not earn an average of SGD7k.
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That's a minority in the overall scheme of things. Take MNC manufacturers for example. We have an accounting service center with 50 graduates where the average salary is around $7-8K and the range is from $4K for fresh graduates to $14K for first level managers. We also have a R&D facility in Tuas that pays $5-6K for a bunch of Higher Nitec techs who have experience running/tuning a wide range of machines used by our customers.

And then you have the banking and financial industries, high tech manufacturing like aviation, electronics design, pharmaceuticals which pay more than we do. Even the govt civil service starts at $4K for good degrees in the right ministries and agencies.
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QUOTE(GottliebDaimler @ Nov 22 2013, 11:06 AM)
Hence, what I can brain is, I should include accomodation + living expenses into the salary that could be 5k~ SGD? And with the job being a contract position, I should increase it even further?
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Employers do not pay you according to how much you want to spend (eg. accommodation & salary). They pay you according to how much your skills, time and energy can contribute to the company.

The only benchmark on how much you can ask is "what is the job description/expectations and how much does a person in Singapore get paid to perform that job description according to those expectations".

Your former salary in Malaysia has no bearing unless what you are going to do in Singapore is exactly the same or very, very similar to what you were doing in Malaysia (plus same size & scope of employer, type of industry etc). In that case, and only in that case, the 1:1 rule of thumb is a pretty good target to aim for.
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QUOTE(vincent829 @ Nov 25 2013, 11:59 AM)
Just a question to all,
How does Johor weekend moving from Sat-Sun to Fri-Sat affect us who are working in Singapore?
In terms of traffic, lifestyle etc.?
Do you like it?
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Doesn't affect us at all unless you go to JB often. In my case, no impact to me at all as I don't go to JB.

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QUOTE(khchong81 @ Dec 2 2013, 03:02 PM)
Hey all, need some guidance here since I got an offer to work in SG. Below is the details:

Basic Pay: SGD 10,000/month
Car allowance: SGD 1,000/month
CPF employer part: SGD 775/month
Sign on bonus: SGD 10,000 with one year bond.

Vs my current pay in Malaysia:
Basic Pay: RM 13,000/month
Bonus: 6 months for 2012.

The only downside about the SG offer is I will downgrade my job scope & title compare to my level in Malaysia.

1. What is the tax rate for my income in SG?
2. What is the average rental for a studio house in SG?
3. My office located at Newton road, where should I rent?
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Firstly, you are bring offered a SG salary that is S$0.85:RM1 which I believe is a fair deal if the SG role is same or similar scope as your MY role in the same industry & size of employer.

You have mentioned that your scope is perhaps smaller, which makes it an even better deal.

Then if you're in the same industry & similar size of employer, your bonus in SG should be about the same as MY. But maybe because it's discretionery, the interviewer might not have been comfortable putting that down in writing. But I believe it should be similar if the industry and size of employer are similar. Big boys typically play in the same pool.

So in terms of remuneration, I think you will simply make 2.X times in SG what you would have made in MY... in gross income, common currency terms. In after-tax terms, you'll make roughly 10-15% more than that due to the much lower tax rates in SG and the much slower progression of those tax rates.

Assuming you want to return to MY to retire, you would have earned double the RM in SG compared to MY, over the same period of time. With the ability to invest more, invest earlier, plus the compounding of those returns over time, you are talking serious money at your salary levels over a decade or two. Easily the difference of whether you retire in 15-20 years time with RM2-5 million working in KL vs retire with RM5-12 million working in SG. To me, it's a no brainer. I came to SG for the same reason.

Secondly, forget about the "downgrade"! Always measure your career in terms of how much you are worth to your pay master, not what he calls you. The former is worth its weight in cash, the latter is not worth the paper biz card its printed on. Yes.., you may have to educate some shallow recruiters who call you on what you are worth despite your lowly job title, or educate some shallow classmates & relatives during CNY or Hari Raya gatherings. But remember, the only thing that matters is your Net Worth at the end of the day. Not your job title, size of your office, or whether you share your secretary with other colleagues etc.

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QUOTE(khchong81 @ Dec 2 2013, 10:58 PM)
Thanks for the advice. At least help me in decision making. Anyone know where to rent if I want close to Newton Road?
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Anywhere near the stations along the North East MRT line, north of Newton (which itself is a station along that line). So from south (nearest to Newton) to North (farthest from Newton), it would be Novena, Tao Payoh, Braddell, Bishan, Ang Mo Kio, Yio Chu Kang. The rentals get cheaper as you go farther from Newton / Orchard-CBD but the travel time also gets longer. I won't go beyond Yio Chu Kang as the taxi/driving time to Newton will reach & exceed 20 minutes (30 during peak) if you go farther north than that.
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QUOTE(cherryl9 @ Dec 8 2013, 01:01 PM)
Thanks! I am really hoping to get this job inSG. However I have heard that it is now a lot harder for foreigners to work there cuz of all the new regulations. There is also the quota system right? I am looking to do finance and entering in as a fresh grad. So i dont have to worry about levy but what about quota? Will have interview soon and knowing all these will help!
So, you want to spend time during the interview talking about something you cannot control?

Go to the interview. Talk about you. Talk about the job. Talk about all the things you can or want to do on the job. Lastly talk about the things you can do, but your peers in Singapore cannot. This last item will get you hired.

If the company sees something they like, they will hire you and take care of all the work permits and levies. All this should be transparent to you.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 11 2013, 06:16 PM)
BTW, just asking around. Banking AVPs are equivalent to assistant manager isn't it?
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As a rule of thumb, just replace VP with Manager and you're pretty much in the ball park in terms of cross referencing to non-bank MNCs.

AVP - AM
VP - M
SVP - SM
Dir - Dir
MD - Snr Dir
"Head of"... something significant (ie. not kuchifart) like Cards, or Private/Consumer/Business Banking - VP
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 18 2013, 06:56 PM)
I'm finally moving out of audit. *yay*
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What's next on the cards ?

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