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crazy25kid
post Oct 31 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Oct 31 2013, 05:06 PM)
http://www.pcf.org.sg/viewarticle.aspx?wfc=KINDERGARTENINFO
http://www.ntucfirstcampus.com/
600-700 before subsidy, very long Q

i went private 800+ per month, just below my flat

higher end 1.5k also have http://www.josiah.com.sg/
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another problem is can your fren be on time to fetch them after work  sweat.gif
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can use this also...faster especially if u know where u going to stay/work
http://www.childcarelink.gov.sg/ccls/home/CCLS_Home.jsp

i heard my ex-colic...her child care, late 1 minute fine SGD1 sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Nov 1 2013, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(keii-kun @ Oct 31 2013, 10:37 PM)
ThanatosSwiftfire here is the 2014 fee schedule for NTUC my first skool, among the cheapest
A good comparison for you to see if you/your friend is planning to be a singapore citizen.

Fiona Chin not to mention the occasional fever, cold, cough while they are developing their immune system.

Anyway, a quick repost for Married family with 1 toddler kid (courtesy of ivanswk with some editing, maybe jasonkwk could add on the 1st page)

Basic requirement = $3700.00
3R HDB rental (2 bed room) = $2500 (East) - oh yes we are the sucker who help people pay for their house
Childcare = $700
Household Food & Groceries = $500 (includes occasional weekend eat out)
Utility (Electricity+Water+Cable TV+Fibre) = $200

Not inclusive of
Parents' meal when at work
Parents' transportation cost to work
Weekend outings
Parents' entertainment
SG Car installment (which also need to calculate in insurance, roadtax)
Commitment back in Malaysia
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need to mention...infants (aged 2-18 months)...the fee is double of that for infant care
so unless the baby is a singaporean...no subsidy and PAINFUL SIAL FOR THE POCKET !!!

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post Nov 1 2013, 09:17 AM

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there are pros and cons whether to send your child to a care center or a nanny

care center will provide more interactivity with peers...but the downside is the kid will not have 100% attention from the caregiver (1 caregiver multiple kids) and also higher chances of getting infected with disease (depends on how u look at it, it may be a good thing as it helps to immunize your kid)

nanny looking after the kid will allow the kid to have 100% attention, less disease from infections but the interaction will most likely be bound to the kid and the nanny only since it is 1:1

so it all depends on which 1 the parents prioritize.
i basically grew up in a child care center...was healthy all the way.
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post Nov 4 2013, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(tengah @ Nov 4 2013, 03:08 PM)
This is debatable..

Financially, you make more money, then it is not downgrade.

Job scope/responsibility wise, then it is a downgrade since a RM10K job in Malaysia is normally a directorship or something similar and a SGD5K job in Singapore is normally an officer or senior officer job.

You may then say cost of living higher in Malaysia, but Singapore is safer and not race-based, so it is really debatable.

If the person is planning to return to Malaysia after the job in Singapore, then it is certainly a bargain since the FX conversion would make him much richer..
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i do not think there is anything to debate
first off...if u take into consideration the exchange rate...personally, you are already losing.
u will be working and living in SG spending SGD...why are u converting it into RM?
you are not spending RM in SG...it may become a debatable point if you travel everyday across the causeway
but still, exchange rate should not even be taken into consideration.

where you retire is uncertain, so never take that as a factor.
if u earn RM10k, and settle for SGD5k...the amount you get to save does not necessary be more when you convert it back
why not factor the amt you might save if u got a job at SGD9k or even 10k or more?
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post Nov 4 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(tengah @ Nov 4 2013, 04:28 PM)
You have never heard of people going back and forth Singapore to work. To these people, it is big profit to them.

Although you spend SGD in Singapore, when you finally leave Singapore and withdraw your money from SG accounts, you make a big pile of money there.

You trade that for your safety, civil rights in Malaysia, you are talking about two different countries, not Penang or KL so it is debatable in many aspects.

Every time the Police patrol stop you in Malaysia, you need to consider parting with kopi money. In SG, you better don't do that or you will be arrested for bribery.

You already said it... ".the amount you get to save does not necessary be more when you convert it back" - so this already makes it debatable.

If it is downgrade which implied not desirable as opposed to upgrade, what are all these Malaysians working in Singapore for? They like downgrade?

So it is quite debatable, on the countary. Not saying either option is good but depends on your needs.
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so by that logic
most fresh grad should only get around SGD1k (RM2.5k)?
That is a fair sum for u?
when i first grad and worked in a local company, i got RM2k
so even if the offer is SGD1.2k (RM3k) in a local company, it is a massive upgrade (50% increase le)?

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post Nov 4 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(tengah @ Nov 4 2013, 04:48 PM)
See this reply:

Don't forget that a person making RM10K in Malaysia is likely a senior executive. When he comes to Singapore, he will likely or assume he take a senior executive job. That won't be SGD5K. Maybe SGD10K. Maybe SGD9K.

So that debate within debate about RM10K to SGD5K is definitely flawed. That person who compared RM10K to SGD5K is not looking at reality.

SGD10K is RM25.5K - still downgrade?
The original question SGD2400 to RM3000. Same line of work/job level.

SGD2400 is RM6100 - that's a difference of RM3700. You see RM3700 no up? You still think downgrade?

Standard of living (security, social standing, amenities etc) is lower in Malaysia.

If you still think downgrade, stay in Malaysia then drool.gif
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i nvr said anything about upgrade or downgrade
i m just saying, the currency exchange should not be taken into consideration.
everyone has their own view on upgrades and downgrades.
but to take into consideration the exchange rate and lose out on what u are supposedly worth is a loss
there are a lot of HR who knows there are ppl who take into consideration of exchange rate thus lowballing...and surprisingly, there are quite a lot of ppl accepting without checking the actual market rate for that position.
in a way, you will just kill your own industry by pulling the bar downwards.

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post Nov 4 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Nov 4 2013, 05:05 PM)
FX rate is important.

wonder why an Indon want to work as maid here with just 3 digits take home vs 6 digit rupiah back in their country? The maid in SG might earn as much as office worker in Indonesia.

for a person that do not wish to set root here (not buying any property, family in MY), net saving is his aim.

so be it SGD, USD or GBP, It is the final amount in RM that he send back home (for house, car, child education etc) that count.

If the FX rate is 1:1, your living cost in SG will be even higher. By then who will continue to stay and work in SG?

Good for you if you get 1:1 offer but for a person who can't get at dollar to dollar matching jobs in SG, he is more willing to accept a lower paying jobs in SG as long as he get more saving (this is where FX rate come in). How low? 80% or 50% depend on how desperate the person need the extra saving. This is the reason why we have huge influx of FT in SG.

Dollar to dollar, it is cheaper to raise a family in MY subject to political abuse. While some of us have higher taste and life style and unwilling to accept a 50% cut in salary, I don't see a reason to discourage other people who trying to earn the extra saving.
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ok...i should rephrase it...if FX as the main or only factor. laugh.gif laugh.gif
i nvr said one should only accept if it is a 1:1 offer but to take into consideration what other ppl with similar credentials can fetch.
if ur skillset is highly sought after in MY, your pay in numbers will be relatively high...but if u were to move to SG which your skillset is not that hot on the market, your pay in terms of numbers are most likely to take a dip. (i have no idea what kind of skillset there is with such an example tongue.gif)
that is why...u find out what other ppl with similar skillset as you can fetch.
different field has a different market

for the indon maid case, if the market rate is 3 digit...then they are not losing out.
if market rate is 4 digit and u are taking 3 digit and not on the high side...u are losing out, even if after the conversion, the chunk of money remitted back is a lot.
the question is what if u were to get a job which is around the market rate...instead of way lower compared to the market but higher because of FX
but job searching is a beech...most of the time u need luck.

desperation as u said will be a factor....but how desperate will one go until 50% sweat.gif sweat.gif (maybe escape from ah long?)
one still has a job (stability aside), one still have some time to bide by....how long is up to each individual
prolonged waiting for an offer can cause frustration and trigger desperation too.

on the 1:1, there will still be people although much lesser...moving has a lot more factors to consider than just FX

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post Nov 4 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(GiNgEr^fIsH @ Nov 4 2013, 05:33 PM)
I disagree. I think in totality cars prices are comparable to Malaysia.
This is due to the fluid COE prices. So there are times, where SG car prices can be even cheaper than Malaysia.

Alternatively, you can get a 2nd car with 3,4 yrs COE left. If you want a better quality of living.

I do admit prices of properties are expensive. But that's if you compare private. BTO's are actually cheaper here! Rental are also higher here in SG however food are far cheaper. Do not forget also, SGD command a higher spending power.
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not everyone can go BTO tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 09:41 AM

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i curse the taxi driving style...macam having foot cramps causing the foot to step and release the accelerator repeatedly instead of maintaining the speed constantly
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post Nov 7 2013, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 6 2013, 07:36 PM)
That's why I use http://www.carclub.com.sg/. Roughly $10 per hour and $0.30 per km, convenience of owning a car and driving yourself anywhere at prices just slightly more expensive than taking a taxi.
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hmmm...can consider then
last time i clicked...i saw membership fee thingy then sweat.gif sweat.gif
edit: eh...still got membership fee eh

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post Nov 7 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 7 2013, 11:33 AM)
Yeah still got membership fee, $10+gst per month sad.gif

registration fee is $100 but every other month they have waive registration fee promo
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oh...can waive registration.
contemplating now...the pick up point is like just 3 blocks away. sweat.gif sweat.gif
very tempting...especially when thinking of bring out my new born. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Nov 13 2013, 05:43 PM

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Just for everyone's info:
If you are going to convert your license, try not to go to SSDC (at Woodlands).
Unless your JPJ letter has a chop and signed by JPJ officer (on the paper which states computer generated and no signature required) sweat.gif sweat.gif and you are willing to wait.
Try Comfort Delgro (at Ubi). Can even go at lunch time which very short or no queue at all.
Not sure about bukit batok
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post Nov 19 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(puppyee @ Nov 19 2013, 05:32 PM)
But they still need your details such as previous work experiences, scanned copy of education certificates, etc in order to proceed with application.

Imo, it is impossible that the person whom the company applied for, does not know or have not provided the company these information/document, when the company applied his/her pass.
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those can be obtained just by requesting before hand for the person to provide during interview.
in the end, the company still have all the details required

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post Nov 21 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(hot-choc @ Nov 21 2013, 02:01 PM)
Hey guys,
Just wanted to ask those who have submitted their PR Application.

One of the documents requested was : Testimonials from previous employer stating the nature and duration of employment and also the last drawn basic salary

Is that a must to submit that? Need to get the letter from all previous employers even if it's in Malaysia?

Hope to clarify this. Thanks!
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not compulsory
might help if u have it
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post Nov 29 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(yiivei @ Nov 29 2013, 11:48 AM)
hmm...

As long as he/she (foreigner) is in SG for <183 days, then he/she will be taxed at 15%. >183 days tax at resident rate.

Not exactly about quitting or working for >/< 6 months.

Correct me if i'm wrong.
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u get tax because u have income
u have income because u are working sweat.gif sweat.gif
u dun expect babies, children and students to be taxed right?

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post Nov 29 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(yiivei @ Nov 29 2013, 11:52 AM)
What i mean is that he can be here in Jun-XX, then only start to work in Jul-XX, then his working period in SG could be <183 days? Isn't it?

I think we are talking bout employment, don't we? Does it has any relation to babies, children or student?
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laugh.gif laugh.gif to be anal abt it...u mentioned foreigner in general tongue.gif tongue.gif
anyway, my bad there.

you are right...it seems that if one was here in june, start works at july or later, the scenario of work < 183 , stay > 183.
it seems that they look at the stay period according to iras


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post Dec 2 2013, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Dec 2 2013, 04:26 PM)
Tell your boss employer's cpf contribution is 16% now vmad.gif . That 775 is 15.5% long long time ago. Car provided? COE is around 80k now. And you need 50% cash to get a car. Tax around 20k for 200k income. Your sign on bonus need to be tax too. mad.gif
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car renting i suppose is okay since 1k for transport allowance


QUOTE(khchong81 @ Dec 2 2013, 04:34 PM)
Lucky i check here. Must talk to the HR person then. No car provided, i might need to rent a car for long term. My income in SGD didn't exceed 200k PA la. Still below 200k SGD.

I am married without kids, but plan to have kids next year. Is SGD11k per mth income will give me comfortable life in SG for my family with one kids?
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depending on how comfortable you want to live.
basically, u can live quite well wif 11k
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post Dec 6 2013, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Dec 6 2013, 01:44 PM)
Just asking, if were to take the Basic Theory Test to be allowed to drive in singapore.

Will the driving centre physically confiscate my malaysian driving license in order to convert it to the singaporean license?
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they will not confiscate ur license...i dun think they have the right to also

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post Dec 6 2013, 03:35 PM

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cause johor is the closest to sg?
and for convenience sake, it is easiest to obtain from there.
i even heard they have a counter just for this
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post Dec 9 2013, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(razo2 @ Dec 9 2013, 02:12 AM)
1k for accomodation is abit alot if you are single. With 1k you can rent a whole unit by yourself which is not a good idea. Share a bit with people can get 200-300 per month. If you need personal space then 500-700 per month for a personal room is enoug. Look around for a place, there is plenty to hunt out there.

Dont get caught by aunty from hell. You dont want to lose your first month bond and rent to mean old ladies and man. Also skip the real estate people, not worth your time and hard earn money.

Just use the website i pm you. Then email them about the vacancy. Gather all possible landlords and google maps directions. Take a trip down and see the place and meet the landlord/tenants.

If you are a single guy, my advice is to get as many options as you can get (at least 10-15 renting options). Many landlords thinks single guys are sex maniac pig sty from jungle Malaysia land. They prefer to rent out to single ladies.
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where can u find that...whole unit for 1k? sweat.gif sweat.gif

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