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post Nov 4 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Nov 4 2013, 04:29 PM)
If that's how you see it, good for you
don't forget that when you work here, u spend here as well
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If a person makes RM10K, he wouldn't be considering a SGD5K job.

A SGD5K job is just another officer job. Nothing fancy about making SGD5K in Singapore.

Why would he want to work in Singapore as an officer and take orders from people when he is probably giving orders in his RM10K job?





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post Nov 4 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Nov 4 2013, 03:27 PM)
u will be surprised....
nobody in their sane mind will hire u at that kind of rate
say u earn 5k sgd, u expect to come back malaysia n earn 10k?

from RM10k job to a sgd5k job is definitely a downgrade in salary
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Don't forget that a person making RM10K in Malaysia is likely a senior executive. When he comes to Singapore, he will likely or assume he take a senior executive job. That won't be SGD5K. Maybe SGD10K. Maybe SGD9K.

So that debate within debate about RM10K to SGD5K is definitely flawed. That person who compared RM10K to SGD5K is not looking at reality.

SGD10K is RM25.5K - still downgrade?


The original question SGD2400 to RM3000. Same line of work/job level.

SGD2400 is RM6100 - that's a difference of RM3700. You see RM3700 no up? You still think downgrade?

Standard of living (security, social standing, amenities etc) is lower in Malaysia.

If you still think downgrade, stay in Malaysia then drool.gif











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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Nov 4 2013, 04:37 PM)
so by that logic
most fresh grad should only get around SGD1k (RM2.5k)?
That is a fair sum for u?
when i first grad and worked in a local company, i got RM2k
so even if the offer is SGD1.2k (RM3k) in a local company, it is a massive upgrade (50% increase le)?
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See this reply:

Don't forget that a person making RM10K in Malaysia is likely a senior executive. When he comes to Singapore, he will likely or assume he take a senior executive job. That won't be SGD5K. Maybe SGD10K. Maybe SGD9K.

So that debate within debate about RM10K to SGD5K is definitely flawed. That person who compared RM10K to SGD5K is not looking at reality.

SGD10K is RM25.5K - still downgrade?


The original question SGD2400 to RM3000. Same line of work/job level.

SGD2400 is RM6100 - that's a difference of RM3700. You see RM3700 no up? You still think downgrade?

Standard of living (security, social standing, amenities etc) is lower in Malaysia.

If you still think downgrade, stay in Malaysia then drool.gif



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post Nov 4 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Nov 4 2013, 04:55 PM)
i nvr said anything about upgrade or downgrade
i m just saying, the currency exchange should not be taken into consideration.
everyone has their own view on upgrades and downgrades.
but to take into consideration the exchange rate and lose out on what u are supposedly worth is a loss
there are a lot of HR who knows there are ppl who take into consideration of exchange rate thus lowballing...and surprisingly, there are quite a lot of ppl accepting without checking the actual market rate for that position.
in a way, you will just kill your own industry by pulling the bar downwards.
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Likewise, I didn't say anything about most fresh grad should only get around SGD1k (RM2.5k). Those words came from you.

Should hammer that guy who made the RM10K to SGD5K comparison.

By this:
SGD2400 is RM6100 - that's a difference of RM3700. You see RM3700 no up? You still think downgrade?

It showed currency exchange should be taken into consideration. I've pointed out many times that the standard of living is lower in Malaysia but the cost of living is higher in Singapore. It depends on what your needs are, do you want a favorable standard of living or cost of living? See this is why it is debatable and as you say everyone has their own view on upgrades and downgrades.













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post Nov 5 2013, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(tengah @ Nov 4 2013, 04:48 PM)
Don't forget that a person making RM10K in Malaysia is likely a senior executive. When he comes to Singapore, he will likely or assume he take a senior executive job. That won't be SGD5K. Maybe SGD10K. Maybe SGD9K.

So that debate within debate about RM10K to SGD5K is definitely flawed. That person who compared RM10K to SGD5K is not looking at reality.

SGD10K is RM25.5K - still downgrade?
The original question SGD2400 to RM3000. Same line of work/job level.

SGD2400 is RM6100 - that's a difference of RM3700. You see RM3700 no up? You still think downgrade?

Standard of living (security, social standing, amenities etc) is lower in Malaysia.

If you still think downgrade, stay in Malaysia then  drool.gif
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QUOTE(keeganz @ Nov 4 2013, 08:08 PM)
Yes agree with him. The question now is is he satisfy with the job role which he landed with. If he think that sgd5k and with less responsibility if compare to the myr10k job back in Malaysia. Why not?

If the same job role or position. Then why you could get myr10k and not sgd8-10K? Assuming same job role normally we get +- 20% from our last pay in Malaysia.
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If a RM10K senior executive comes to Singapore for a SGD5K officer job, then it is a downgrade in terms of job scope.

For your second statement, read the above again: " When he comes to Singapore, he will likely or assume he take a senior executive job. That won't be SGD5K. Maybe SGD10K. Maybe SGD9K."









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post Nov 6 2013, 12:27 PM

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Ride basikal but don't behave like that ang moh cyclist drool.gif
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post Nov 7 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Nov 7 2013, 02:33 PM)
with tonnes of IT graduate, with same piece of paper
i think only way one can edge another out is by their look  sweat.gif
so u ask yourself this, are u good looking or not, if u are, then u have a very good chance  thumbup.gif
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That's where good looking female IT graduates has an edge over male IT graduates. drool.gif
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post Nov 14 2013, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Nov 14 2013, 04:23 PM)
Wow, Malaysians working under employment/work passes are exempted from paying CPF. Meaning the salary you get is what you get at the end of the month, that's good nod.gif
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Good if you need the money now.

Some people would prefer to have CPF deductions so that they can get the Employer’s share of CPF contribution which is 16%, that they can withdraw when they reach the retirement age.




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post Nov 30 2013, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(wangdu @ Nov 28 2013, 09:23 PM)
hi all..
Currently i have an offering from MNC bank in SG to work for them.
It's a big decision, since i need to downgrade and become Sys Admin. The salary is ok but need to work on shift plus every weekend.

Can i survive with 8k salary in SG?, as im not a PR & there no CPF.
Or should i move near J.B?
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Sys Admin make 8K salary in Singapore? Don't complain! You make them not happy, they hire bangla or pinoy to replace you for only 4K! drool.gif


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post Dec 2 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(hanquan @ Dec 2 2013, 12:55 PM)
.... or delivery resume in Malaysia?
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Pardon me, should be :

... or apply for Singapore jobs from Malaysia



QUOTE(hanquan @ Dec 2 2013, 12:55 PM)

... since I delivery many resume.....

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... since I have made many applications from Malaysia...



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post Dec 3 2013, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 2 2013, 07:36 PM)
American companies pays weekly but most Asian companies pays monthly. So American companies use the extra 4 weeks AWS to cover the shortfall. Not a bonus.
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Bi-weekly more common. That is every 2 weeks.


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post Dec 3 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(cherryl9 @ Dec 3 2013, 03:09 PM)
thanks! do you mean the employee will pay more if i get an S pass or work permit, compared to an Epass?
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Getting a Epass is better than work permit. People here say it is more, if I may quote, "atas"
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post Dec 4 2013, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(cherryl9 @ Dec 3 2013, 04:49 PM)
What shouldn't i take the fees for applying to a pass into account? Nanti boss said he has to pay extra to employ me compared to a Singaporean.
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You might as well bring your own coffee, milo to your office, so you can tell your boss that it cost him less to employ you since you don't drink company coffee and milo.

The fees is not for you to worry about. Let the employer handle that.






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post Mar 3 2014, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(KoChun @ Mar 2 2014, 04:10 PM)
Why not live in Johor and ride bike into SG to work.
Isn't that more economical and common practise?
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It is the convenience, you pay for it and comfort.

It is like asking why take the bus instead of buying a car.




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post Mar 3 2014, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(shaohui @ Mar 2 2014, 09:38 PM)


2. CPF contributions can withdraw fully assuming if I were to return back to KL, Malaysia permanenty?


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Note that you need to be 55 years old plus the other conditions.



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