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TSchysysys
post Oct 17 2013, 05:15 PM, updated 13y ago

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planning to buy an unit there... any idea rental is ok?
will leasehold an issue to sell ?
and any back review about this condo?
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post Oct 29 2013, 03:45 PM

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dude, u sure u going to hunt one here?
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post Jun 13 2018, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(chysysys @ Oct 17 2013, 05:15 PM)
planning to buy an unit there... any idea rental is ok?
will leasehold an issue to sell ?
and any back review about this condo?
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You want buy Gaya Bangsar?

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post Jun 16 2019, 11:16 PM

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Lelong unit check in. Drop from 720k (first auction price).
Now at re-auction the 5th round.
Smallest available size here. And only 1 such unit per floor.

Details as below:

32-05, Gaya Bangsar, No. 1, Jalan Bangsar Utama, 59000, Kuala Lumpur
Reserve price🔥🔥RM 467,100🔥🔥
Leasehold until 2106
657 sqft (Type E)
Auction: Jul 19 (to be updated!)


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Bjorn1688
post Jun 16 2019, 11:44 PM

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Wasting time buying one of these.
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post Jun 17 2019, 12:04 AM

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Overpriced ade.. Low rental too.. Same as nadi.. Someone bought studio rm800k, Rental only 2.3k. Crazy low ROI
Thasmita
post Jun 17 2019, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Jun 17 2019, 12:04 AM)
Overpriced ade..  Low rental too.. Same as nadi..  Someone bought studio rm800k, Rental only 2.3k. Crazy low ROI
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What should be the ideal ROI?

Anyways I don’t see any significant capital appreciation in the next five years or so, especially with the large numbers of new units coming into the vicinity.
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post Jun 17 2019, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Jun 17 2019, 12:04 AM)
Overpriced ade..  Low rental too.. Same as nadi..  Someone bought studio rm800k, Rental only 2.3k. Crazy low ROI
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He must be an early buyer of a high floor unit and took up a furnishing package.

Otherwise he must have bought a mid-floor and took a full ID package.

No studio unit cost RM800k especially after the rebate.

Yeah rental rates have fallen of late.

Used to be able to get RM3.5k but these days any new tenancy max RM2.5k

Subsale prices not doing well also, can get a studio for as little as RM540k
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post Jun 17 2019, 06:25 PM

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oversupply...
like others said too low rental.. thus low ROI too...
it's tenants market nowadays cry.gif
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post Jun 18 2019, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jun 17 2019, 03:52 PM)
He must be an early buyer of a high floor unit and took up a furnishing package.

Otherwise he must have bought a mid-floor and took a full ID package.

No studio unit cost RM800k especially after the rebate.

Yeah rental rates have fallen of late.

Used to be able to get RM3.5k but these days any new tenancy max RM2.5k

Subsale prices not doing well also, can get a studio for as little as RM540k
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Yes studio with full id design package, fully furnished unit.. Bought direct from developer...

You bought there too?
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post Jun 18 2019, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Thasmita @ Jun 17 2019, 12:59 AM)
What should be the ideal ROI?

Anyways I don’t see any significant capital appreciation in the next five years or so, especially with the large numbers of new units coming into the vicinity.
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Generally speaking, ideal ROI will be 6% and above.. My condo unit is still generating more than 10% ROI in PJ.. Bought in 2011..

If i were to buy condo, ill make sure that my ROI must be more than 10%. But these days condo is just too pricey.. No point buying if you have to fork out the extra monthly installment to pay the bank. Not to mention, the payment of other outgoings as well..

This is not a healthy investment unless the capital appreciation is expected to be super high. But with alot of condo mushrooming. I doubt so..

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post Jun 18 2019, 12:17 PM

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10% ROI in PJ for Condo?
not bad actually because some places I know can cover loan installment already happy... if included all the maintenance fee, tax etc. then making losses cry.gif
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post Jun 18 2019, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Jun 18 2019, 11:21 AM)
Yes studio with full id design package, fully furnished unit.. Bought direct from developer...

You bought there too?
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Yes have a unit there, studio, mid floor, purchased 4 months to VP at RM540k after all the rebates. Mine is an absolute empty unit, only came with the air conditioning and water heater. Was a special promo while servicing my dad's Merc the SA said if listen to their promo can get free polish voucher.
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post Jun 18 2019, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 18 2019, 12:17 PM)
10% ROI in PJ for Condo?
not bad actually because some places I know can cover loan installment already happy... if included all the maintenance fee, tax etc. then making losses cry.gif
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Can't compare.
He bought in 2011 when prices were lower.


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post Jun 18 2019, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Jun 18 2019, 11:25 AM)
Generally speaking, ideal ROI will be 6% and above.. My condo unit is still generating more than 10% ROI in PJ.. Bought in 2011..

If i were to buy condo, ill make sure that my ROI must be more than 10%. But these days condo is just too pricey.. No point buying if you have to fork out the extra monthly installment to pay the bank. Not to mention, the payment of other outgoings as well..

This is not a healthy investment unless the capital appreciation is expected to be super high. But with alot of condo mushrooming. I doubt so..
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actually how to count ROI? Annual rental / Property cost?

or 10% ROI is it net of maintenance fees, annual interest etc etc?
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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 18 2019, 12:45 PM)
Can't compare.
He bought in 2011 when prices were lower.
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lucky him..

I remember someone bought some condo in Shah Alam... around 300k in year 2008... now it's worth nearly 1mil with monthly rental around 2k (if I'm not mistaken) dry.gif

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post Jun 19 2019, 05:34 AM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Jun 18 2019, 11:25 AM)
Generally speaking, ideal ROI will be 6% and above.. My condo unit is still generating more than 10% ROI in PJ.. Bought in 2011..

If i were to buy condo, ill make sure that my ROI must be more than 10%. But these days condo is just too pricey.. No point buying if you have to fork out the extra monthly installment to pay the bank. Not to mention, the payment of other outgoings as well..

This is not a healthy investment unless the capital appreciation is expected to be super high. But with alot of condo mushrooming. I doubt so..
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Totally agree on the glut and limited scope for capital appreciation.

10% returns on ROI is damn good lah. My portfolio averages at 6.5%. But I take absolute nett. Meaning - rental minus all outgoing including income tax.
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QUOTE(Lescotesco @ Jun 18 2019, 01:56 PM)
actually how to count ROI? Annual rental / Property cost?

or 10% ROI is it net of maintenance fees, annual interest etc etc?
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I guess it depends. I usually take gross rental per year minus all outgoings I.e maintenance, quit rent, assessment, agency fees if any, repairs if any, tax paid on rental divide by my total purchase price.

Which is not really true ROI but more of ROV, as if it is a leveraged purchase then my investment is only the entry costs + interests.


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QUOTE(Thasmita @ Jun 19 2019, 05:40 AM)
I guess it depends. I usually take gross rental per year minus all outgoings I.e maintenance, quit rent, assessment, agency fees if any, repairs if any, tax paid on rental divide by my total purchase price.

Which is not really true ROI but more of ROV, as if it is a leveraged purchase then my investment is only the entry costs + interests.
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isnt this the correct way? cause ROI is based on net profit which is after all the expenses u mentioned above.


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post Jul 17 2019, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 16 2019, 11:16 PM)
Lelong unit check in. Drop from 720k (first auction price).
Now at re-auction the 5th round.
Smallest available size here. And only 1 such unit per floor.

Details as below:

32-05, Gaya Bangsar, No. 1, Jalan Bangsar Utama, 59000, Kuala Lumpur
Reserve price🔥🔥RM 467,100🔥🔥
Leasehold until 2106
657 sqft (Type E)
Auction: Jul 19 (to be updated!)
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jun 16 2019, 11:44 PM)
Wasting time buying one of these.
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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Jun 17 2019, 12:04 AM)
Overpriced ade..  Low rental too.. Same as nadi..  Someone bought studio rm800k, Rental only 2.3k. Crazy low ROI
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Unit sold at 510k today. Still slightly below last month reserve price. thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 18 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jul 17 2019, 10:16 PM)
Unit sold at 510k today. Still slightly below last month reserve price. thumbsup.gif
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A bit on the high side for a unit of that size.

Won't break even unfortunately.
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post Jul 18 2019, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jul 17 2019, 10:16 PM)
Unit sold at 510k today. Still slightly below last month reserve price. :thumbsup:
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Wow- still can sell for 500k?
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post Jul 18 2019, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Thasmita @ Jul 18 2019, 01:53 PM)
Wow- still can sell for 500k?
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Quite surprised it exceeded the RM500k mark.

Was expecting it to be in the low or under RM400k range.

But thankful in a way it did not drop to that price.
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post Jul 18 2019, 04:33 PM

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Personally I don't think lelongs are really worth it. The discount from low subsales isn't a big margin, and I would gladly pay the extra for peace of mind.

Oh, some lelongs like jalan ampang and hutan bangi ARE very cheap. But for a reason. Lol.

This post has been edited by LoTek: Jul 18 2019, 04:34 PM
Thasmita
post Jul 18 2019, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(LoTek @ Jul 18 2019, 04:33 PM)
Personally I don't think lelongs are really worth it. The discount from low subsales isn't a big margin, and I would gladly pay the extra for peace of mind.

Oh, some lelongs like jalan ampang and hutan bangi ARE very cheap. But for a reason. Lol.
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Totally agree mate.

But I guess most of the lelong sales are cash.

People with loads of cash to spare

So most probably not too concerned about ROI or capital appreciation


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QUOTE(Thasmita @ Jul 18 2019, 04:51 PM)
Totally agree mate.

But I guess most of the lelong sales are cash.

People with loads of cash to spare

So most probably not too concerned about ROI or capital appreciation
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then can just throw it at a desperate subsale. tell agents to hunt for you.

 

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