Hi LYN members..

as per topic above,
i would like to ask all honda city which IDSI or VTEC version.

may i know what is differentiate between this 2 version.

how bout fuel consumption both version.

and i think spare part dont have problem right..

if you don't mind can please share, because i refer to LYN "car club", no info for this car.

IDSI 8 spark plugs.

vtec for more power, idsi better FC i guess

i own the idsi version, 7 years and 6months, FC is bout 0.16c/km. cant say for vtec version

IDSI = very good fc, economical, a bit underpowered

Vtec = normal fc, more powerful than the idsi

just get ISDI. . it more than enough for city drive.

vtec got black interior but idsi got biege.

thnk you for sharing.
may i know, so far your honda city never breakdown on da road ?

nvr so far, once tyre got flat only, other than tht not much big issue so far

I own a 2005 3rd gen vtec city...touchwood, no problem insofar 8years...quiet car during engine in operation....idsl will out of breath abit when >4k but vtec one will come power there n quite playful but pls dont expect to run with the big boys of hilly run ...i tried catching up at 165kmph to view 2 marque BMW & Merz racing 180-200 race I couldnt catch up...on flat road then >180 ok (ya im quite a reckless person)

Parts no problem n available widely
parts from honda sc will be expensive i.r.t this segment car, the price will slaughter you....you have to source out from outside half the price.

full tank about 420km. It's the more powerful car if not the most, for this segment car...better than spec sheet. I have 2 friends, ladies, who respectively own a Rx8 and Soarer and eventually a R35, either had this car or said ,this car quite powerful when sit in mine...for an entry level car.

very responsive when engage the 7 speed mode and ,shift to sport mode to keep on 'high' rpms for high speed runs....combine both when launching, very effective. Sometime i even redline this small car in stock form
Car is a keeper but since mine is in stock form, no mods....body roll is existence. I believe (& heard owners of d current gen city) not as quick as the 2005 model.

This post has been edited by wayfeel: Oct 16 2013, 12:22 PM

ohh..how bout engine performance ?
do you feel satisfied ?

after 5th year, it feels abit underpower, u can use the 7 speed manual if u wan accelerate faster, more FC~

when i started driving, it can go 160km/h w/o a problem
but now still able to go 140km/h w/o a problem (i dont dare to go above anymore)

may I know whether it have an impact on the gearbox when change gear from auto to manual gear suddenly ?

i also have the same question too.
why the prices for idsi and vtec differ tat much? maybe 5-10k? planning to compare jazz for the two versions. idsi is much cheaper. why so?

VTEC has:
* 7 speed mode
* black interior
* 4 wheel disc brakes
* exhaust tip finishing
* leather wrapped steering wheel
* Optitron-type instrument panel
* stiffer suspension

http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/VTECCityPrev/

other than these 'cosmetics' any indications of poor performance of the idsi version pls...for city driving only. thanks alot

i hear some ppl said tht this model of honda city will have some gearbox problem, i've encounter none so far

but i do take care of it, eg: i dun force to shift the gear and maintenance on time

idsi do have 7 speed mode too~

more than likely to happen on models prior to 2005.
as long as use CVTF oil on the gearbox, then should be no problem/concern of this happening. but doesnt hurt to check on vibration/jerking during standstill...shfiting btw gears

mine is a 2006 model, luckily haha

the vtec one is just a normal 16v 1.5L engine when "vtec" kick in.
if havent kick, it run on 12v 1.5L.
using vtec one now. fc about 400km per full tank of 40~45L but i do admit i always rev high with this car coz it feels underpowered

i am normally at bout 3000-3500rpm, above will be quite noisy

anyone who use IDSI version, may i know full tank / km ?

anyone who use IDSI version, may i know full tank / km ?

at least 500 above. ymmv. some ppl get 550-600

personally with vtec version i get 440km mostly city driving..idsl should +50-100km more

2006 iDsi, full tank bout 450~480km, bout RM70-75 per full tank

probably bad drving habits~

I'm driving Jazz i-Dsi 2003..full tank can go up to 500-550km..

latest result of mine
full tank can go around 587.5km.
but im not really into speeding.
just normally 80-90km only.

but when reach 80-90km on highway, sometimes i feel like jerking/situation is like change gear suddenly..

idsi -8 spark plugs, 8 plug coil.. 1 plug coil Rm150-200

Bro, ignition coil fault for this model is it that common ???

Most stories I heard is just the wheel bearing kaput very fast. That's all.

Even the previous model of City that I own also same. Honda wheel bearing don't last... Happens to FD Civic too.

common problem for this model;

plug coil
rear wheel bearing (make sure u get the NSK Japan, not NTN China)
engine mounting (normal wear & tear)
cvt (just take a good care of her..but, recond cvt nowadays not so expensive anymore)
flywheel

how to know if ignition coil fault ?

car jerking , no energy etc....

Tq for sharing.


anyone anyone who install pivot mega raizin ?
may i know effect after that ?

This post has been edited by imran: Jan 6 2014, 12:52 AM

alot of ppl mistaken that the ivtec is for performance or racing engine design. the ivtec we seen on the road are valve timing control, which continuous changing the cam timing according to different engine rpm and it cant be feel the crossover of the cam timing change. The original Vtec is those cam lifting engine such as B series , K series and H series engine which is totally a performance NA engine, that why the word of vtec kick in come from when the engine rev until certain high rpm and the cam profile changed that you will feel the power from the engine also different sound from the engine as well.... anyway, ivtec and idsi both are design for fuel economic but ivtec will focus more on engine response...

thank you for sharing info

may i know, area u install pivot mega raizin ?

you mean voltage stabilizer ? I remember someone in this forum named erickoh something , selling that . Overall not bad lor .

yes..correct..
how bout performance after install ?

erm , i install just 2 part . Can feel slightly responsive lo . Maybe install more can feel better . but i cant tell you , cause i install sikit saja...

but a lot ppl said quite worth

there is no significant in getting performance from voltage stabilizers....
so, don't buy it for the sake of getting "performance".
Buy it for the sake of getting your electrical components for the car "cleaner" and less ignition or electrical issues.

I use Pivot Spark and another japanese made VS...

I never had ignition issues, one click...car starts....driven a VTEC for 6 years...and the only time...was when the batter was flat.
And only changed my sparks ONCE in my whole entire car use....but my travel mileage was < 40k for 6 years.

The wheel bearing is one of City/Jazz 2004-2009's problem....but it also goes to the Civic line as well...
Major issues could be due to changing the rim size/heavier, pot holes..and suspension koyak but not replaced.
I changed only once during my ownership, and was using same rim size, but heavier...and lowered springs.

Spend a bit more in servicing/changing your CVT gearbox regularily...
No issues with my 2004 model during my 6 years.

mine is 05/2005 vtec. Engine and gear no problem, still smooth and rocking. full tank can go almost 550km, slow driving, like uncle, around 80 - 90km/h only everyday. service at honda sc.

The only bad thing is, the nvh become very2 sick, but, i enjoy listen to the engine,

anyone who facing with jerking engine ?
i feels when reach 90-100km at highway, timing will become unstable or changing gear from 6-7.

i notice that some parts need to change, but i not sure.

I got a 2008 Honda City VTEC.

Now trade in for mazda 3 because the car give me too much problem.

Same, but mine fulltank only 430km liek dat coz city driving 80% often rev and push da car


I use cvt most the time...so no 6-7th gear...usually just semi manual the 7sppeedmode...
No jerking at N or shift to D...quite ok upto 180kmph though abit floaty due to my 50 tire and the higway road condition here not so good like in KV


the city u bought new or used?
6 years car giving problem ,wat sort of problem, mind sharing? Mazda3 new how much?

Edit: and trade in value how much in KV? Here east, bank MV about 44K and myb transacted around 42K possible. but due to CNY coming, myb low demand and can only be sold around 38-40K...Trade in should be much much less.



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Jan 22 2014, 01:06 PM

I bought new City.

2008 Model VTEC.

Everytime go Honda Service Centre for service.

My gearbox got problem, so selling it. I changed CVT oil every 20,000km, rarely use the 7 Speed mode.

I see. it's unfortunate. Sry asking so much... how do you wait at the traffic light, you put to N or D+brake everytime or no definite?...just curious why your GB has problem coz if not the way it is extremely treated n evenso , it is not so easy to malfunction, I know coz I push it and if serviced by HSC, if by 200 5, the GB problem should be already solved through CVTF oil informed throughout the SC oredy...but, well..

so far for me, i always put N..
but when change back to D, it takes 3-5 seconds to accelerate..
how bout your ?

same issue here....sometimes i can also hear the engine rattle a bit...quite unsure what is causing it

hmmm, very strange....shift from N to D, then I drive away as like any other normal car like Myvi, waja, iswara, etc lo...
Once at D, I have sometime stomped on the fuel for a century sprint also upto 6krpm-redline, few times a month...for 8years, can tahan my driving also thas whay I testify the CVT can push abit as well...So I really m puzzled n regret for both your experience.

Has SC feedback anything on the vibration and the delayed acceleration ka...I'm sure they would have?

wow bro, how old is your city, i've nvr reach 180kmph, pass 120kmph i feel its already floating, only manage to reach 160kmph when its new

my full tank is usually bout 430-450km also

at first, i'm not believe SC because certain SC got issue.i would prefer share info with among CITY users..

Hi all I'm getting my Honda city idsi AT . Year 2005.1.5 soon it a second hand car n have done nearly 200k . But should I get the vtecs? Please help n reply a thanks

This post has been edited by Royng6523: Oct 8 2015, 11:05 PM

Idsi also not bad..otherwise, please test drive Vtec car

If price difference not much, I rather take vtec version. I prefer 4 disc brakes on the vtec rather than drum brakes for the idsi version.

Agree..i also prefer 4 disc brake on vtec

Do you still have this problem? My brother in law actually fixed this for my idsi city. Btw, i have both idsi n vtec variants of the same make 🙄 i know i know, idsi was my mother’s while i got the vtec real cheap from relative.


The idsi’s condition before i took it over was hair-pulling complicated, internally. According to my mother, she already brought it to more than 7 workshops/garages to diagnose the jerking issue and that majority stated that it was the GB, some even said it was the A/C compressor and she did get that changed, which didnt do anything at all except that the car has freezer like coldness. Also the car couldnt go up hill, it will stall mid way if not crawling uphill real slow causing a jam.


After i took it over about a month, it got worse that it stalled at a red light, (wife was with our 2yo when she was using and shlt happened). Left it at my in-law’s for a week, then my BiL asked if i’d mind to let him fiddle around with the car a bit. (He’s a car enthusiast). End of the week when i went over to get the car, the jerking was gone, power went up, no jerking/stuttering/stalling ever since, and even overtaking slower cars uphill. This was 3 years ago when covid just hit. Still no issues on performance, although it is going through some wear n tear issues atm, cause its 20years old now… he did mentioned to me what did he do to it, and it didnt cost anything. Also he mentioned engine mountings were bad, so im mot sure which was it that fixed the damned car. Mountings or sensor. Ill get back on which sensor does he mean later.

Forgot to mentioned, our cars used to go to Honda SC for everything. Now besides all oil/fluids change. We dont go there anymore.