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 [WTB] Home cinema amplifiers - AVR, price range around RM3.5K ~ 4K

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sonerin
post Oct 21 2013, 07:45 AM

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685 is a very good speaker indeed. A bookshelf with good mid and low. You should go to have a listen in B&W showroom in jaya33.
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post Oct 21 2013, 07:56 AM

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i got this pair of speakers. duno can be used or not.

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post Oct 21 2013, 11:58 AM

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From the info on the speaker sticker looks ok to be use
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post Oct 21 2013, 02:35 PM

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Duno how far can/good the speaker perform.
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post Oct 21 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(hoss @ Oct 21 2013, 02:35 PM)
Duno how far can/good the speaker perform.
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Try and you shall see... Or in this instance, hear... laugh.gif

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post Oct 21 2013, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(hoss @ Oct 21 2013, 01:04 AM)
Chanhin, is the different very huge between KEF Q and R series? cos i saw R series is a lot more expansive. what is the different in term of sound? can we hear the different?

how about B&W 685?
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Q and R are of different sound. Most people swear that R is so much better.

Anyway, to my ears, Q perform better in mid and high than R, but low bass suffer a bit, which I ignore because I believe is not that bad and can compesate by sub if required.

While R is focusing on more overal better sound and improving its bass to be more quality, tighter.... but the mid and high slightly lost to Q, which I can clearly hear that.

Thus it is back to matter of taste. If you like detailed vocal from audiophine CD, IMO, the cheaper Q is even better than R. Well, I know lots of KEF supporter going to hamtam me, but that's my honest opinions.

Even the shopkeeper laught at me when I said I prefer the Q. He told me I am the only one saying Q is better. Well, I judge solely 100% based on what I hear, rather than bias towards its prices or great magazine review. You can say I am very bias towards raw quality rather than any marketing or advertisement, which never work on me.

While on B+W, I am slightly dissapointed as not giving the similar quality over price as compare to compatitor. So far only thier CM series are okay. Even BIG brand like ATC also lost big time on sub RM10k speakers.

I heard B+W going to carry the latest CM10. Do hope its sound is as good as its looks. Expectation is high for such price.

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Oct 21 2013, 03:37 PM)
Q and R are of different sound. Most people swear that R is so much better.

Anyway, to my ears, Q perform better in mid and high than R, but low bass suffer a bit, which I ignore because I believe is not that bad and can compesate by sub if required.

While R is focusing on more overal better sound and improving its bass to be more quality, tighter.... but the mid and high slightly lost to Q, which I can clearly hear that.

Thus it is back to matter of taste. If you like detailed vocal from audiophine CD, IMO, the cheaper Q is even better than R. Well, I know lots of KEF supporter going to hamtam me, but that's my honest opinions.

Even the shopkeeper laught at me when I said I prefer the Q. He told me I am the only one saying Q is better. Well, I judge solely 100% based on what I hear, rather than bias towards its prices or great magazine review. You can say I am very bias towards raw quality rather than any marketing or advertisement, which never work on me.

While on B+W, I am slightly dissapointed as not giving the similar quality over price as compare to compatitor. So far only thier CM series are okay. Even BIG brand like ATC also lost big time on sub RM10k speakers.

I heard B+W going to carry the latest CM10. Do hope its sound is as good as its looks. Expectation is high for such price.
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I like ur comment really! But then which sub woofer r u pair with?
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post Oct 21 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(hoss @ Oct 21 2013, 04:33 PM)
I like ur comment really! But then which sub woofer r u pair with?
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EarthQuake MiniMe P12 - 12" sub

Anyway, for sub wise, there should be lots of other chioces. whenever possible... 12" at least + sealed sub for more controlled bass, which important for music.

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Oct 21 2013, 07:45 AM)
685 is a very good speaker indeed. A bookshelf with good mid and low. You should go to have a listen in B&W showroom in jaya33.
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However, Monitor Audio RX2 at similar price is far better than the B+W 685. cool2.gif

It is why it seems B+W is not really good for its value... until CM series then maybe can fight with its competitors.

Samething to the brand, Focal, its 700 and 800V/W Chorus are lame for thier price. Its real quality only start with Electra series, which impressed me kao kao...
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post Oct 21 2013, 05:49 PM

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I can only say just trust your own ear no matter what people say about the speaker. Sound is very subjective to listener. Then of course also you need to consider what you want to spend.
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post Oct 21 2013, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Oct 21 2013, 05:49 PM)
I can only say just trust your own ear no matter what people say about the speaker. Sound is very subjective to listener. Then of course also you need to consider what you want to spend.
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Just to add. System matching and tuning according to room and gears are important too.
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post Oct 21 2013, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 21 2013, 06:06 PM)
Just to add. System matching and tuning according to room and gears are important too.
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Tuan, I still looking for floorstander to match the Rythmik 15"
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post Oct 21 2013, 08:51 PM

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post Oct 22 2013, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Vinceyang @ Oct 21 2013, 07:25 PM)
Tuan, I still looking for floorstander to match the Rythmik 15"
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B+W CM10? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Oct 21 2013, 05:49 PM)
I can only say just trust your own ear no matter what people say about the speaker. Sound is very subjective to listener. Then of course also you need to consider what you want to spend.
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yes, you are right. but, since i'm know ntg. therefore, hopefully there are some benchmark to follow. will find out more on what i want from there.
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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Oct 21 2013, 02:58 PM)
Try and you shall see... Or in this instance, hear... laugh.gif
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erm... i think it got bass, but the bass cover the vocal clarity.... ( i think so )
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post Oct 22 2013, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(hoss @ Oct 22 2013, 01:52 AM)
erm... i think it got bass, but the bass cover the vocal clarity.... ( i think so )
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So, in other words you are not impressed with the separation (High, mids and low). Interesting... Traditionally, studio speakers tend to emphasis, Mids and highs....

Put of curiosity, what sort of music are you into... Classical, Jazz, Pop, Club...?

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post Oct 22 2013, 02:54 AM

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Hi

Would you recommend running AVR/AMP from UPS to clean the power source?
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post Oct 22 2013, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(mrbob @ Oct 22 2013, 02:54 AM)
Hi

Would you recommend running AVR/AMP from UPS to clean the power source?
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