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 Good Tyre for 14″ Sport rim (185/60R14), Saga BLM M-Line. Any Suggestion?

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post Dec 26 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 26 2013, 09:30 AM)
my friend said xm2 is noisy tyre. maybe because it's hard compound tyre & entry level tyre. can comment on that?
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it's michelin's entry level tire that's for sure.

and the treadwear rating being almost 400, it's fairly hard too. (though not as hard as the rest of the entry level that's over 400)
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post Dec 26 2013, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 26 2013, 09:30 AM)
my friend said xm2 is noisy tyre. maybe because it's hard compound tyre & entry level tyre. can comment on that?
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depending on how u compare. for me xm2 is quiet enough and comfortable. way better than nct5.
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post Dec 26 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 26 2013, 09:27 AM)
What? 4 year old ducaro? even the front tyres only last me about 2 years only.
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I don't travel a lot. Only use the car to go for work only. Mileage 36k now.

QUOTE(wassap @ Dec 26 2013, 10:16 AM)
agreed. my xm2 cuts through water like hot knife through butter.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 26 2013, 10:30 AM)
my friend said xm2 is noisy tyre. maybe because it's hard compound tyre & entry level tyre. can comment on that?
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But it's acceptable to my ear. Much better then Ducaro Ga
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post Dec 26 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Dec 26 2013, 01:12 PM)
I don't travel a lot. Only use the car to go for work only. Mileage 36k now.
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But it's acceptable to my ear. Much better then Ducaro Ga
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no wonder la. mine now only 35K for 2.5 years old. urs 36k for 4 years. notworthy.gif
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post Dec 26 2013, 02:13 PM

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Was using Falken 2 pcs 322 and 2 pcs 912.. Would say my 3rd day of using xm2 is much better in terms of nvh and grip .. One thing worrying is that the thread wear .. since I'm traveling 100-150km per day.. Might not durable as other tyre tho.. any idea how many kms it can last? Driving style: smooth pickup, never accelerate fast
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post Dec 26 2013, 03:55 PM

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How about cornering with xm2? I want change my persona tyre 195 60 r15 and considering xm2 also might change option to ps3 also since price not much different /tyre, but will seize to 195 55 r15

This post has been edited by dadurtyz: Dec 26 2013, 03:56 PM
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post Dec 26 2013, 05:25 PM

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I don't know why but it's depend on how you want to use your tyre/driving preference.

But one of my friend said he got his xm2 through 5 years of use, now that's amazing. He said he got this card reminding to switch/rotate the tires say every 20K km.

nct, powerblitz, myvi oem didn't last more than 2 years with me. Now trying this so called crappy falken ziex 322.
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post Dec 26 2013, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 26 2013, 03:55 PM)
How about cornering with xm2? I want change my persona tyre 195 60 r15 and considering xm2 also might change option to ps3 also since price not much different /tyre, but will seize to 195 55 r15
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Cornering and braking distance is decent bro! That is what a tyre should have without compromising comfort and performance. If you have the budget to get ps3, by all means go for it. Ps3 is excellent in performance if it suits your driving style. Xm2 is just entry level of Michelin range.
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post Dec 26 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Dec 26 2013, 05:25 PM)
I don't know why but it's depend on how you want to use your tyre/driving preference.

But one of my friend said he got his xm2 through 5 years of use, now that's amazing. He said he got this card reminding to switch/rotate the tires say every 20K km.

nct, powerblitz, myvi oem didn't last more than 2 years with me. Now trying this so called crappy falken ziex 322.
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I think previously was xm1 right? May be xm1 has harder compund compare to xm2 that's why it last longer .
How's your crappy 322 by the way? Hahaha.. Should give xm2 a try
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post Dec 26 2013, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(cheehoong91 @ Dec 26 2013, 02:13 PM)
Was using Falken 2 pcs 322 and 2 pcs 912.. Would say my 3rd day of using xm2 is much better in terms of nvh and grip .. One thing worrying is that the thread wear .. since I'm traveling 100-150km per day.. Might not durable as other tyre tho.. any idea how many kms it can last? Driving style: smooth pickup, never accelerate fast
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XM2 should be very durable, the treadwear rating last time if i remember correctly is at 420! my previous NCT5's treadwear rating is 200 edit: 240.

QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 26 2013, 03:55 PM)
How about cornering with xm2? I want change my persona tyre 195 60 r15 and considering xm2 also might change option to ps3 also since price not much different /tyre, but will seize to 195 55 r15
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if you don't drive really fast, i believe XM2 is sufficient grip one lorr. but ofcourse PS3 will have better grip la.

This post has been edited by efaceninja: Dec 26 2013, 11:29 PM
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post Dec 26 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(cheehoong91 @ Dec 26 2013, 06:49 PM)
I think previously was xm1 right? May be xm1 has harder compund compare to xm2 that's why it last longer .
How's your crappy 322 by the way? Hahaha.. Should give xm2 a try
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Hmm, yes, it must be xm1 since xm2 is new like 2011. Sorry about that. I just read what people say about 322 in forums and yea most will say it's a piece of crap. I don't know about falken higher end since I never use them.

ABout 322, used on 2008 myvi 1.3 auto. On worn tarmac the noise is unbearable plus the car's sound proofing is totally raped after 5 years. Cornering wise I can't really push it since my myvi OEM APM front absorber which I felt softer than KYB ones so I never dare myself trying too hard. On rainy day sometimes I hit 110kmh and yea there're few close call of almost aquaplaning during the heavy rain, trying to overtake with speed more than 80kmh. Thread wear too soon to tell but if it doesn't last up to 2 years than it's a crappy tire like nct5. Hey I bought them cheap RM160 a piece, can't complain much ma.
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post Dec 26 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Dec 26 2013, 08:31 PM)
XM2 should be very durable, the threadwear rating last time if i remember correctly is at 420!  my previous NCT5's threadwear rating is 200.
if you don't drive really fast, i believe XM2 is sufficient grip one lorr.  but ofcourse PS3 will have better grip la.
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double check on the NCT 5, as 200 treadwear rating is into damn high performance tires already, and NCT5 is definitely not high performance.
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post Dec 26 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 26 2013, 11:10 PM)
double check on the NCT 5, as 200 treadwear rating is into damn high performance tires already, and NCT5 is definitely not high performance.
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sorry i think is 240... forgot where i kept the photo. 240 is what i found on internet.
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post Dec 26 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Dec 26 2013, 11:25 PM)
sorry i think is 240... forgot where i kept the photo.  240 is what i found on internet.
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240 is still pretty soft (theoretically better NVH and performance) if you ask me (anything under 300)

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...odel=Eagle+NCT5 this? 16" though, and not sure if oversea and malaysia would share the same ratings for it's various sizes.

checking the sidewall directly would be best biggrin.gif
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post Dec 26 2013, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Dec 26 2013, 11:06 PM)
Hmm, yes, it must be xm1 since xm2 is new like 2011. Sorry about that. I just read what people say about 322 in forums and yea most will say it's a piece of crap. I don't know about falken higher end since I never use them.

ABout 322, used on 2008 myvi 1.3 auto. On worn tarmac the noise is unbearable plus the car's sound proofing is totally raped after 5 years. Cornering wise I can't really push it since my myvi OEM APM front absorber which I felt softer than KYB ones so I never dare myself trying too hard. On rainy day sometimes I hit 110kmh and yea there're few close call of almost aquaplaning during the heavy rain, trying to overtake with speed more than 80kmh. Thread wear too soon to tell but if it doesn't last up to 2 years than it's a crappy tire like nct5. Hey I bought them cheap RM160 a piece, can't complain much ma.
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Guess what, I used earphone as a tool to soundproof my ear when I was traveling down south to Jb.. You know the tarmac road in malacca north south highway right.. Totally unbearable I would say. That is why I changed it few days ago when I came back to selangor. However, Falken 322 and 912 lasted me for about 62k km and Ive used it for 1year 6-7 months only.. Lol
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QUOTE(cheehoong91 @ Dec 26 2013, 06:39 PM)
Cornering and braking distance is decent bro! That is what a tyre should have without compromising comfort and performance. If you have the budget to get ps3, by all means go for it. Ps3 is excellent in performance if it suits your driving style. Xm2 is just entry level of Michelin range.
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Doesnt it look weird to wear 195 55 r15 on persona stock rim?
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post Dec 27 2013, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(cheehoong91 @ Dec 26 2013, 11:57 PM)
Guess what, I used earphone as a tool to soundproof my ear when I was traveling down south to Jb.. You know the tarmac road in malacca north south highway right.. Totally unbearable I would say. That is why I changed it few days ago when I came back to selangor. However, Falken 322 and 912 lasted me for about 62k km and Ive used it for 1year 6-7 months only.. Lol
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62k km is about right I think. I did only 20-25k a year so it should last for almost 2 years.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 26 2013, 09:30 AM)
my friend said xm2 is noisy tyre. maybe because it's hard compound tyre & entry level tyre. can comment on that?
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The rubber actually feels softer than most other brands. I'm using it and at earlier stage it is quiet but after some time it become noisy.

But noise from tyre not just due to rubber compound, the main culprit is the thread design and how it cancelling the noise.

QUOTE(cheehoong91 @ Dec 26 2013, 02:13 PM)
Was using Falken 2 pcs 322 and 2 pcs 912.. Would say my 3rd day of using xm2 is much better in terms of nvh and grip .. One thing worrying is that the thread wear .. since I'm traveling 100-150km per day.. Might not durable as other tyre tho.. any idea how many kms it can last? Driving style: smooth pickup, never accelerate fast
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Should last you very much km's. My friend travel penang till jb every month, after 100k km the tyre looks like not used till half also.

QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 26 2013, 03:55 PM)
How about cornering with xm2? I want change my persona tyre 195 60 r15 and considering xm2 also might change option to ps3 also since price not much different /tyre, but will seize to 195 55 r15
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You cant just change the tyre profile. Otherwise the meter will not accurate and it might affect your suspension parts also. The best is you changed to 205 55 15 so that overall diameter still about the same.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 28 2013, 09:02 AM)

You cant just change the tyre profile. Otherwise the meter will not accurate and it might affect your suspension parts also. The best is you changed to 205 55 15 so that overall diameter still about the same.
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Does the 205 55 15 just different the tyre wide only? Currently persona tyre size are 195 60 15,
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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 28 2013, 11:36 PM)
Does the 205 55 15 just different the tyre wide only? Currently persona tyre size are 195 60 15,
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the first number, 205 or 195 is the tyre width, in millimeters. the second number, which makes it all harder, 50 or 55 or 60 is the tyre profile (sidewall height), in percentage to the tyre width. you need to maintain your sidewall height if you are not changing rim size. 205 55 is closer to your original sidewall height than 195 55.

215 55 would be much closer to your original sidewall height but whether your rim, clearance on the fender/inside can take another 20mm is another factor. one more issue is since the tyre is now wider, is the engine have power enough to move the car without giving any lag feeling to the driver become a question.

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