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post Oct 20 2013, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(sleyer @ Oct 20 2013, 12:02 PM)
this one
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Oh, it happened on single monitor as well.
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post Oct 20 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Oct 20 2013, 11:37 AM)
My rig with RadeonPro Dynamic-Vsync

No screen tearing = Checked
No input lag = Checked
No vsync stutters/hard frame drop = Checked

Since 2012 and it's free.  sleep.gif
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NVidia aslo have this technology call adaptive sync

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology...sync/technology


The problem is still there because screen tearing still occur below fps is below 60 when vsync off sad.gif .

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=380120

check this.



now Nvdia solve this problem by having variable refresh rate for monitor

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post Oct 20 2013, 12:57 PM

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g-sync is still very long to go ok? whats so fun about it? looks like it u only can have g-sync if only u own a nvidia g-sync ready monitor and as usual nvidia is gonna charge very high price bcoz only they have 'it'

ok i know what can 780Ti do if it really came out, that is top the Titan oced laugh.gif
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post Oct 20 2013, 01:51 PM

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CODE
<application Title="Grand Theft Auto V" File="GTA5.exe">
<use Area="PXDynamic">HighPerfGPUAffinity</use>
</application>

Is that the reason why Watch Dog delayed to Q1 2014? brows.gif

Sauce: http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=46...1&postcount=145
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post Oct 20 2013, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Oct 20 2013, 12:57 PM)
g-sync is still very long to go ok? whats so fun about it? looks like it u only can have g-sync if only u own a nvidia g-sync ready monitor and as usual nvidia is gonna charge very high price bcoz only they have 'it'

ok i know what can 780Ti do if it really came out, that is top the Titan oced laugh.gif
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Either AMD should do something about it, or gamers will choose Nvidia over AMD. G-sync is that important. Nvidia solved problem where everybody can't solved it.

This technology should be license and standard, just like any technology breakthrough. But knowing nvidia, they won't. So, everyone should embrace this technology or else, we will still stuck at old age technology where refresh rate is fixed. No point of having 4k, 10k display if the panel is still stuck at 60hz fixed rate. Media sources (movies, tvs, games) are running at different frames and refresh rate, if panel still have fixed refresh rate, then it suck.


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Dont think g-sync going to be a technology standArd.. what gsync can do radeonpro and nvidia inpector can do it for free.... but just need to know a bit of tweak
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QUOTE(azsace @ Oct 20 2013, 07:11 PM)
Dont think g-sync going to be a technology standArd.. what gsync can do radeonpro and nvidia inpector can do it for free.... but just need to know a bit of tweak
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G-sync is a hardware underneath monitor. Not software. No such thing as tweak can make your monitor to run at variable refresh rate.
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post Oct 20 2013, 07:59 PM

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U can capped the frame to 30, 48, 50, 60, 72, 75 depends on ur monitor... and also how powerful ur card...
With this u can reduce the micro-stuter n reduce the screen tearing since the frame rate variance is minimal
For amd radeonpro.. nvidia nvidia inspector... u should play with these two great tweak apps
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QUOTE(azsace @ Oct 20 2013, 07:59 PM)
U can capped the frame to 30, 48, 50, 60, 72, 75 depends on ur monitor... and also how powerful ur card...
With this u can reduce the micro-stuter n reduce the screen tearing since the frame rate variance is minimal
For amd radeonpro.. nvidia nvidia inspector... u should play with these two great tweak apps
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No bro... it is not about frames capping. It is about realtime variable refresh rate. No matter how powerful your graphic cards, the bottom line is your monitor is 60hz (unless you are using 120-144hz). What is the point with fast gpu at the end you capping it at 60fps?

When refresh rate is match with fps, it is not only solved tearing and stuttering, it gives you the smoothness, fluid motion.

The limitation is not in your GPU, it is on the display panel.
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:12 PM

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G-sync... interesting tech. Nvidia is gambling on tech. Asus comes out a product which supports this to test the consumer's responds..
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QUOTE(azsace @ Oct 20 2013, 07:59 PM)
U can capped the frame to 30, 48, 50, 60, 72, 75 depends on ur monitor... and also how powerful ur card...
With this u can reduce the micro-stuter n reduce the screen tearing since the frame rate variance is minimal
For amd radeonpro.. nvidia nvidia inspector... u should play with these two great tweak apps
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or we just turn v-sync on, problem solved hmm.gif
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Renekton @ Oct 20 2013, 08:49 PM)
or we just turn v-sync on, problem solved hmm.gif
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when v-sync on it will introduce mouse lag too sad.gif
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QUOTE(piskin @ Oct 20 2013, 08:50 PM)
when v-sync on it will introduce mouse lag too sad.gif
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depends on the game hmm.gif like how good is the engine
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G-sync, is one good thing, and think it is a right move bringing something like this to consumers. It is not just for gaming, it may be the future of everything video - variable fps movies, documentary, action telecasts, and of course, gaming. In terms of 'bigness', I think nvidia nailed this one, compared to Mantle.
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 20 2013, 08:12 PM)
G-sync... interesting tech. Nvidia is gambling on tech. Asus comes out a product which supports this to test the consumer's responds..
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Yeah but have to buy monitor that is compatible sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Oct 20 2013, 09:30 PM)
Yeah but have to buy monitor that is compatible  sweat.gif
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...and most likely very expensive... sweat.gif
Looks like G-Sync is going to be out of most consumer reach... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Oct 20 2013, 09:30 PM)
Yeah but have to buy monitor that is compatible  sweat.gif
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hmm... how about asus should start selling Graphic card+monitor combo package. hmm.gif lol

wat if AMD do the same except it open its technology to be adopted as a industrial standard... then, Nvidia is having a risky bet.
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QUOTE(Renekton @ Oct 20 2013, 08:49 PM)
or we just turn v-sync on, problem solved hmm.gif
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The problem with vsync... if ur gpu process less than 57fps.. it will pull down to 30fps.. so basically ur gpu resource will be wasted since the addition 27frames will be discarded.. with proper frame capping, ur gpu will limit it frame so the gpu can optimised the frame process.. this will reduce frame variance as well reducing screen tearing
Previously im using 7950.. with metro i cant maintain the 60fps.. so i just capped the frame to 48fps.. smooth gameplay
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post Oct 20 2013, 09:48 PM

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G-sync remind me a physx, need buy extra hardware to support it.
$.$....

I still prefer use LED TV as my monitor...
If I have extra money, I will buy 60' LED TV for gaming, movie and anime ><""
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post Oct 20 2013, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Oct 20 2013, 09:46 PM)
The problem with vsync... if ur gpu process less than 57fps.. it will pull down to 30fps.. so basically ur gpu resource will be wasted since the addition 27frames will be discarded.. with proper frame capping, ur gpu will limit it frame so the gpu can optimised the frame process.. this will reduce frame variance as well reducing screen tearing
Previously im using 7950.. with metro i cant maintain the 60fps.. so i just capped the frame to 48fps.. smooth gameplay
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Dynamic-Vsync will disabled Vsync when your FPS is under 59 so there's no hard frame drop to 30fps and coupled with TripleBuffering, the input lag is non existent

QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Oct 20 2013, 09:48 PM)
G-sync remind me a physx, need buy extra hardware to support it.
$.$....

I still prefer use LED TV as my monitor...
If I have extra money, I will buy 60' LED TV  for gaming, movie and anime ><""
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As always, early adopter need to pay premium.

Asus announced first GSYNC ready monitor for $399 and $175 for the GSYNC kit. 1080p, TN panel and 24" for $399 and that is US price without taxes. Surely it will get around $500 when it reach local shore.

Sauce: ASUS Announces Adoption of NVIDIA G-SYNC Technology


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