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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, 07/12 Man Utd v Newcastle, 20:45 810/831

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post Oct 28 2013, 01:07 PM

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Some observations on the game:-

1) Jones and Smalling lack experience and it shows. Both goals conceded came from there. Jones has a tendency to get pulled out of position and get too hot blooded. Smalling has a tendency to ball watch. Smalling was caught ball watching and that allowed the Stoke player to pass him and led to the first goal while Jones conceded the free kick needlessly which led to the second. De Gea was really unlucky with the second goal. Rolling off the hand like that is very rare.

2) Jones and Smalling are very good for their age but they're still young and this shows why a majority of defenders come good only in their later years. Evans is a good example. If they really are good, the mistakes will slowly get cut out of their game as they mature.

3) The only reason why we're playing with Jones, Evans and Smalling is because Vidic and Ferdinand are both injured. Otherwise, Vidic and Ferdinand would have started with probably Smalling on the right.

4) United set up with Kagawa playing on the left wing and cutting in like he does with Japan. He played well in that game, especially in the first half, where he reminded me of Rooney, with the way he was everywhere and pressing, defending and connecting passes forward. Faded as the second half wore on, probably due to tiredness or a tactical change. He seemed to roam less.

5) With Kagawa cutting in, Evra was naturally expected to provide width on the left which he did very well. Unfortunately got caught up a few times, but this is nothing new. With his aging legs and Fletcher still out, we don't really have a central midfielder who can cut in to cover for him. SAF experimented with Ferdinand in DC moving out to the left while Evra cut in to cover Ferdinand in the middle, but it wasn't always so smooth. We conceded a few times when this was first experimented and I expect that whatever solution Moyes uses this season, will require the same transition period as well.

6) Rooney was excellent. Brilliant header.

7) Stoke bossed the game with 2 key points. Physical bullying (which the ref allowed until some time in the second half) and rapid counter attacks once they won the ball through bullying. The ref really dictated the game by not giving out yellows earlier. Some of the offences they got away with were atrocious. So to see Hughes cry foul on Hernandez leaves me bemused. The trend could be seen as the second half wore on and the yellow cards piled up, they were forced to back off and United started playing better.

8) Stoke tried to shut up shop in the second half, which in my opinion, was a mistake. They should have pressed on and try to get a 3rd goal. This is because when they started to tire in the second half and accumulated yellow cards which means they no longer had license to foul, they let United back in the game. An extra goal cushion might have made the difference. Perhaps he overestimated United's paucity in attack.

9) Nani. Inconsistent as always. I guess if one of his long shots went in, we would be singing a different tune, but today, it's the same old, same old. To hear he got booed really is shameful, although understandable, as these are probably the same home fans who sat through United's indifferent home form and suffered through all of it. But really, they should have been more accomodating.

10) Cleverley's selection is natural and more suited with United's intention to press harder and play more direct, like Everton. Carrick also seems more comfortable with him since they played together more often and Cleverley understands the pass and move and makes himself available for passes more often. Unfortunately, this United is built for possession. It lacks pace and cannot play that hard for too long. Basically, they're nothing like Tottenham. So it didn't really click in the first half. They got the ball to the final third too fast and didn't know what to do and they lost the ball too easily. Stoke's pressing and physical game didn't hep either.

11) Adnan Januzaj has amazing composure. He also moves off the ball and keeps possession of the ball very well. wub.gif
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post Oct 28 2013, 01:26 PM

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kemon guys...lets futsal...get ur ass off the comfort couch...let go ur keyboard...n do thisss...

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post Oct 28 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 28 2013, 01:26 PM)
kemon guys...lets futsal...get ur ass off the comfort couch...let go ur keyboard...n do thisss...

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post Oct 28 2013, 02:08 PM

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wow nice got futsal session at Segambut?
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post Oct 28 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(beebee @ Oct 28 2013, 02:08 PM)
wow nice got futsal session at Segambut?
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When? I can join maybe a month plus later. Still recovering from injury.

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post Oct 28 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(tatabun @ Oct 28 2013, 01:58 PM)
Adela... Die pandai2 muncul la sat2 lg.. Ill announce the date and time after confirming at least 10 or more persons joining..Those interested  pm me.. Ill only book the court with date and time once we have minimum 10 people
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QUOTE(beebee @ Oct 28 2013, 03:08 PM)
wow nice got futsal session at Segambut?
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 28 2013, 04:13 PM)
When?  I can join maybe a month plus later.  Still recovering from injury.
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post Oct 28 2013, 03:57 PM

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Can I join Futsal guys?
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post Oct 28 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(wtan18 @ Oct 28 2013, 04:57 PM)
Can I join Futsal guys?
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Yes pls.. Totally welcomed.. Enough 10 i can start plan time and date already
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post Oct 28 2013, 04:32 PM

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Awesome when we do get 10 players.. Any ideas on which area/court would you be planning to book/ play at?
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Oct 28 2013, 04:17 PM)
Yes pls.. Totally welcomed.. Enough 10 i can start plan time and date already
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which area ? i never play for years liao..
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post Oct 28 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(tommyfai @ Oct 28 2013, 05:44 PM)
which area ? i never play for years liao..
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planning either segambut or gombak..
no issue la.. can just play for fun also.. this could be one of the MUST "bonding" session so we could actually understand us better ma.. biggrin.gif
now its like berdiritegang vs kepalamoyes in here.. we might even make team berdiri tegang vs team kepala moyes.. haha

natzakaria..you are welcome to come as well... oh ya lok3i.. tok tok tok here only why not u join as well
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post Oct 28 2013, 07:01 PM

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wah seh, ada futsal session. if not 4 oustation duties, sure join.
team tegang vs team monyet. :hehe


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QUOTE(tatabun @ Oct 28 2013, 07:55 PM)
hahahhaha

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post Oct 29 2013, 12:20 AM

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fuwah...saf was a striker that main elbow wan ar?? shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Oct 29 2013, 03:09 AM

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see chica cant play 90'
but he is superb subs
kalau masuk 20 minit terakhir konfem terbaik punya
hero tamil selalu datang lambat
haha

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post Oct 29 2013, 08:42 AM

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i hope Kagawa will play as #10 tonight. rest rooney and rvp. Nani should be given another chance. Valencia or Fabio as rb if rafael unavailable, i never rate Smalling as a fullback.
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QUOTE(john_white @ Oct 29 2013, 03:09 AM)
see chica cant play 90'
but he is superb subs
kalau masuk 20 minit terakhir konfem terbaik punya
hero tamil selalu datang lambat
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hero tamil??? roflmao... laugh.gif laugh.gif

he is always our savior...a secret weapon when the main artillery become jam or finish bullet already..
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post Oct 29 2013, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(tatabun @ Oct 28 2013, 04:17 PM)
Yes pls.. Totally welcomed.. Enough 10 i can start plan time and date already
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Please do not include me at this moment, I'm still recovering from a bad injury on my knee (from futsal blush.gif ).
I may need another month or two to fully recover.
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post Oct 29 2013, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Oct 29 2013, 08:42 AM)
i hope Kagawa will play as #10 tonight. rest rooney and rvp. Nani should be given another chance. Valencia or Fabio as rb if rafael unavailable, i never rate Smalling as a fullback.
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I would prefer Kagawa to play in the fulham match. Rest him from this CC match.
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post Oct 29 2013, 09:30 AM

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Perhap this is a good article to read on how hard to manage Man Utd.

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/bootroom/id/529?cc=4716

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