What's the difference apart from the size?
Macro extension tube and macro filter, what's the difference?
Macro extension tube and macro filter, what's the difference?
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Oct 6 2013, 12:55 AM, updated 13y ago
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What's the difference apart from the size?
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Oct 6 2013, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 6 2013, 01:09 AM) macro filter would be something like Raynox DCR-250 I believe, it attaches to the front of the lens. a macro extension tube on the other hand, is placed between the lens and the camera body. QUOTE(kalakatu @ Oct 6 2013, 02:00 AM) So the result is exactly the same?QUOTE(alpha001 @ Oct 6 2013, 02:04 AM) filter degrades the quality of pics Thx for sharing, but can crop it lil sharp on centres and worst at corners here is image i took using 10x hoya filter ![]() Extension tube also got this prob? |
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Oct 6 2013, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ Oct 6 2013, 08:32 AM) I own 100mm macro, but most of the time the subject is to small. The raynox help reducing the minimun focus distance for more magnification. For me, I no longer use the ET as high chances dust get into the sensor. My fav combo however m43 body, olympus 40-150mm + raynox. Its light, cheap combo and importantly still do the job. Raynox is different from ET and macro filter? Now I see there's 4 solutions for macro which is macro lens, raynox, ET and macro filter. QUOTE(kalakatu @ Oct 6 2013, 10:03 AM) nope. Thx. What's CA?any additional glass, especially the low quality glass will degrade ur photo quality. usually it'll decrease the sharpness and contribute to more CA. ext tube doesnt have glass, so no changes in the photo quality. still, macro filter is much more easier to be used compared to ext tube QUOTE(kalakatu @ Oct 6 2013, 10:13 AM) The quality looks okay for me QUOTE(alpha001 @ Oct 6 2013, 11:04 AM) sure can crop, but it will be different story, the quality will not be the same Like this I think not acceptable for me. Thx for sharing.i taken few photos of ants and flowers before, quality not really that great, raynox will do better job i guess » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(melnikor @ Oct 6 2013, 03:30 PM) 100mm is macro lens? |
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Oct 7 2013, 12:30 AM
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Oct 7 2013, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(melnikor @ Oct 7 2013, 12:34 AM) Thx for sharing, but can I see some samples from the macro lens alone (50mm preferred)? Sorry if I'm asking too much.QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 7 2013, 12:36 AM) daniel, if you don't already know, macro lens can be used as a normal lens like any other prime lens to focus on everyday subject, just that macro lens allow you to get very close to the subject. if you're really interested in macro, straight get the macro lens. macro lens usually have higher optic quality, but with smaller aperture and longer focal length. Eh I didn't know that for E mount version, 30mm isn't very long but still not very convenient as multipurpose lens. but if that's what you want, it's better than spending extra money to try all sorts of macro lens alternatives to end up giving up and buy the macro lens. This post has been edited by danielcmugen: Oct 7 2013, 12:58 AM |
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Oct 7 2013, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 7 2013, 01:11 AM) that lens is 45mm equivalent, while lumia 800 is 28mm equivalent, which is about 1.6x of lumia 800. you can always try setting your phone to 1.6x and see if you like the field of view. This 1 right? http://www.sony.com.my/product/sel30m35 Wonder why they call it 30mm when its focal length is not 30mm.I checked the max aperture of both the 16-50 kit lens and the macro lens above, both same. Advantage of kit lens is shorter/adjustable focal length and 3x optical zoom, advantage of macro lens is ability to shoot macro. Sounds alright to ditch the kit lens for macro? Can save some money. Tough decision but I'm leaning towards keeping the kit lens. Any inputs? This post has been edited by danielcmugen: Oct 7 2013, 03:16 PM |
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Oct 7 2013, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 7 2013, 09:55 AM) it is a true 30mm, but on a smaller sensor compared to full frame, you get smaller crop. to get the same field of view in full frame (35mm format), it's 1.5x of aps-c, which is 45mm. so people use the full frame 35mm format as the standard for equivalent. like Nokia 808 actual focal length is 8mm, but to make it equal to 35mm format for easier interpretation, it's actually 26mm. I expected u to suggest me to keep the kit lens as adviced by u few days ago when I was comparing with prime save money. it's interchangeable lens camera, you'll start to invest quite a few more lens in the future. This macro lens vs the standard kit lens, which will give more detail in pictures of non-macro shots? Ignoring the focal length. This post has been edited by danielcmugen: Oct 7 2013, 02:48 PM |
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Oct 7 2013, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 7 2013, 03:05 PM) I am still a noob in macro Soft corners But macro lenses will allow you to get much closer for smaller insects, and should focus better and easier too (Assuming you are using an NEX-3N + Kitlens at the moment) Summore macro lenses can be used for normal shots too, although they in general focus slower than prime or kitlens A quick Google search revealed that the 30mm macro lens doesn't seem to be very good at optical quality, especially soft at the corners But can't really expect too much since its pretty affordable On a side note those features in http://snapsort.com/cameras/Sony-Alpha-NEX-3N-specs like in-camera HDR, 25 focus points, RAW support, 30sec long exposure and good dynamic range will still be there if I change lenses? This post has been edited by danielcmugen: Oct 7 2013, 04:14 PM |
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Oct 7 2013, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 7 2013, 04:23 PM) i mean, save more money and top up for the macro lens along with the kit lens package. Got adaptor means can use DSLR macro lens?or, save up for adaptor and macro lens from other manufacturer. the good thing about the NEX is the focus peaking is dead easy to use. 2nd part of your post, it really depends on the optical quality of the lens, the better the quality, the higher the price. so the SEL30M priced at RM999 retail, i wouldn't expect too much quality though it should be better than the kit lens. i never try the macro lens, only playing with demo unit at KLCC. phone them and see if they have SEL30M for demo, and bring along your SD card. QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 7 2013, 04:25 PM) Wah, a bit hard to compare there since both are different type of lenses man Dunno, usually macro I will crop Personally I think soft corners may be a problem for macro since you don't always frame your subjects in the middle right? As for the features, no worries, they will be around even if you switch lenses |
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Oct 7 2013, 04:59 PM
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Oct 8 2013, 01:22 AM
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Oct 8 2013, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 8 2013, 09:30 AM) Not sure how much the NEX-5R costs now that the NEX-5T (~RM1950 with kitlens) is out. But do expect the price to be cheaper. Since the NEX-5T doesn't really have much upgrades from the 5R, the 5R is the better pick, especially if you are on a budget I think you should stick to the kitlens (I don't think they sell NEX body only), and invest in some cheap extension tubes. That should be within your budget Play around with it first, when you are familiar with macro already and when budget permits, then get a dedicated macro lens QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 8 2013, 01:35 PM) that seems always a common dilemma for first camera. Thank you, I think I'll keep the kit lens and play with it 1st. If I get 3N, I'll go straight for macro lens as I'm lazy to go through the hassle of trying an extension tube or raynox. For 5R, depends on price 1st but I think at most I can only afford a raynox with my 2k budget.like myself, when i read more about cameras, the more i "want", and end up no decision. so i went and bought my first camera and learned a lot since then. |
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Oct 8 2013, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ Oct 8 2013, 03:50 PM) Daniel you need lens longer than 50mm otherwise you'll vignetting which is not fun if you considering raynox. Anyway looking at your flickr, I feel shame cos you have been taking wonderful photo just with HP hehe.. Thanks for the advice, raynox at most will only be a temporary solution. Will always eye a macro lens.Lately been using compact cam more than phone btw |
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Oct 10 2013, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Oct 9 2013, 07:20 PM) part of the attributes of a good macro is it is capable of maintaining a very flat focal plane.. how else did they do photo reproduction then? Nikkor 50 is reputed to be among the favorite.. so to accept soft edge is not relevant. IF you use stock prime for macro work then it will be soft because it is not design and compensated to have a flat surface edge to edge. There are sweet spots you have to use to achieve those results... refer to each lens technical datasheet for them. Have fun... BtW,, enlarger lens do make good macro too... I dun have any other options for e-mount macro lens within my budget. But what is enlarger lens? |
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