If you are worried about FC, get Myvi. If you want driving enjoyment, don't care too much about FC and get the Preve. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Pick which one you'd rather sacrifice. FC or driving enjoyment?

Preve CFE has 2.0 level power & performance. And also 2.0 level FC & maintenance. Be prepared for that. Your coming from Viva might get a shock from fuel costs.

Actually for the performance Preve has, the FC is OK. My previous car was a 2.0 Honda Accord. On the highway Preve gets slightly better FC (due to the low rev afforded by the CVT), around 15 - 16 km/L. On city driving, it gets similar FC as the 2.0 Accord, around 9 - 10 km/L.

Just to try Proton. Preve is the first Proton in my family. We were a Honda only previously. For the price, what you get from the Preve is good. The quality I got from the factory is good.

What Proton really lack is refinement (the little things such as those ugly chrome screws against the dark plastics. Should've used matte black screws).

Also the quality of after sales service is not very good. They tried to sell me X1R, Magnetrap etc, things the car doesn't need. They also tried to change things before scheduled, such as replace radiator coolant every 10K km. The engineer who wrote the manual suggested every 30K km. I complained and now the SC will review the service schedule in the manual with me before starting work.

When people say Proton is a piece of shit, Toyota & Honda better, I'd say go ahead then. Buy a Honda & Toyota. Many times those who say that don't know what they are saying and don't know what they've gotten themselves into. My family have been driving Hondas since the 1990s up to the iVTEC era. There are pros & cons but Proton is not really that bad, except for the after sales & service. *So much* work need to be done in that area.

This post has been edited by sanadi: Oct 21 2013, 12:59 PM

Why not join PREVOC FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/preveownersclub/

There are quite a bit of pics of Preve involved in accidents. Yes the safety shell in the Preve is quite tough. If safety is your main concern (as was mine), get the CFE version. You get 4 airbags and more importantly ESC (Electronic Stability Control).

You also get a few goodies in the FB, such as enabling the Preve DRL. Yes *proper* DRL. Bright when the engine is on. Dims when you turn on the position lights. All just by connecting 1 wire labelled "DRL" on the circuit board.

Proton, you sure are naughty.

Look for this discussion in Prevoc FB

Some have DIY. Waiting from them to post tutorials. Or you could visit Drex Chan's shop and pay him to do it for you.

Wait a few days, the admin will approve your request.

This is Preve's LED Strip


This is the close up of the circuit board


Just connect the wire to the connecter labelled "DRL" and voilla! You get proper DRL. But the process of doing it takes even Drex 2.3 hours. I think it is not easy. I'd rather pay Drex to do it to my car. You get professional workmanship from him. Not cheap, but good workmanship rarely are.

Ohh and it definitely VOIDS your warranty.

It now operates like Suprima DRL. Currently, Preve's position light operates at 1/3 brightness. With DRL enabled, once you start your engine, it goes full brightness. Turn the light switch from OFF to position lights or the headlights, it dims to current brightness.

In other words, Preve already has proper DRL, but disabled by Proton.

They do make it quite a chore to enable it though.

This is a pic from Facebook:


Headlamp confirm void. Wiring I *think* also void. You need to wire the DRL connector to a locations such as the fuel pump relay.

This post has been edited by sanadi: Oct 22 2013, 08:49 PM

I don't think so. Need to ask the experts.

If you press the pedal to the floor, with the updated ECU/TCU settings, the engine will rev to 5500 - 6000 rpm. You will find that you have trouble going past 180 kph.

Relax your pedal pressure and allow the engine to rev ~4500 rpm and you will find that the car speed picks up considerably. You can get 200 kph quite easily. The trick is *relaxing* pedal pressure to go faster. Counter intuitive but it works.

In the original ECU/TCU mapping where the engine will not go past 4000 rpm easily, the trick was to use S mode to accelerate to 180 kph and change to D mode to accelerate to 200 kph. Now you just control pedal pressure.

I'm quite sure only Preve LE has VT3+. Preve LE also has EVP (confirmed). I think only future Preve with 6 airbags will have VT3+.

Take sales people's word with pinch of salt. They'd say anything to make a sale.

Went to EA Autoworks and enabled DRL. You need to take off the bumpers. Glad I paid Drex RM250 to do it.

I was told it is the same LED strip.

This is the strip

I did not install a switch. But there are 2 wires connected to the starter relay and fuel pump relay. Pull those wires out and hide them under the fuse box, and you have a stealthy setup, helpful when you go for service at SC. They wouldn't know you have DRL.

DRL are *supposed* to be there. It was designed to be DRL. Don't matter whether fast or slow. It is about being visible to others. The new Picanto also has DRL. You will find that more and more new cars will have DRL. In EU it is the LAW to have DRLs.

http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/...ts/index_en.htm

Looks like you gonna have to get used to them.

These are all stock DRL, from the manufacturer

Mounting problem perhaps, especially when not moving. You should be able to claim warranty. The steering vibration I think is also due to the mounting.

Hold all Preve booking if you can. Wait for the 5-Star ANCAP version for Premium and Exec.