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SportyHandling
post Oct 3 2013, 10:48 AM

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Any Preve Turbo owners who experience slight metal grinding sound when accelerating up a slightly inclined slope or from a toll plaza at speeds of say 20km/h to 100km/h. The sound is not really loud so if you don't pay attention you will not hear it. I"m not referring to the sound of the Turbo engine.

I don't know if this is a defect or unrefinement of the Turbo engine. Since it is a minor issue, I will only bring up this issue in the next service. Just curious if any other Preve owners experience this metal grinding sound when accelerating from standstill to about 80-100km/h.

If anyone drives a manual car before, the "metal grinding" sound is like the sound you hear when you accelerate the vehicle using 4th gear when the right gear to use is 2nd or 3rd gear.
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post Oct 3 2013, 01:30 PM

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Anybody compared different types of petrol on the Preve Turbo? Any difference in smoother acceleration or power between Petronas, Shell, Caltex or BHP?
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post Oct 5 2013, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(matS @ Oct 4 2013, 05:35 PM)
metal grinding is not accurate.. maybe you should call it metal knocking or skrew longgar.. haha..
and yes my CFE also have this sound ..
i rather said this sound will easier to hear when mid accelarating...
your last description is very useful and understanding...
have you ask SA abut this issue??
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THanks for the information. Certainly useful. Yes, you are correct metal grinding sound may not be so accurate. The sound is metal/engine knocking or loose screws knocking against each other kind of sound.

May I ask how old is your Preve Turbo? Yes, it I get this sound in mid-speed acceleration anywhere from 10km/h to 100km/h. It happens around 20km/h to 90km/h at low rpms below 2000.

I have been using Petronas petrol all this while and just changed to Caltex yesterday. Looks like the sound is even louder now but will keep monitoring. Will try BHP next.
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post Oct 5 2013, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(matS @ Oct 4 2013, 05:35 PM)
metal grinding is not accurate.. maybe you should call it metal knocking or skrew longgar.. haha..
and yes my CFE also have this sound ..
i rather said this sound will easier to hear when mid accelarating...
your last description is very useful and understanding...
have you ask SA abut this issue??
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Forgot to ask. Have you brought up this matter to the guys at the service centre, particularly the large one along Kesas highway Centre of Service Excellence? I did not ask the SA (doubt he could help) but will ask the guys at the service centre to check it for me when I send the car for the next 10,000km service. I wouldn't want to waste my time going there now as this issue is a minor one. Having said that, I would be slightly disappointed if it is something that is inherent in the vehicle and cannot be rectified.
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post Oct 7 2013, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(xJJx @ Oct 6 2013, 06:23 PM)
I recently changed from petron to caltex. I does notice some difference as i'm staying in a hill area. When climbing, it is much powerful (imo). haven't tried other yet.

Sorry now only i notice you mention about turbo variant. Mine is IAMF+ auto.
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Okay thanks for the information. I am still monitoring the performance of the vehicle with Caltex since i just pumped in the first tank with about 5% Petronas leftover. Will pump in another full tank of Caltex by end of this week and monitor the performance.

The acceleration seems a bit smoother with Caltex than Petronas though I am more interested in the slight knocking sound in the Turbo engine, whether it can be eliminated completely with the right fuel. I will try BHP after this to see which fuel will be more "friendly" to the Turbo engine.

Thanks.
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post Oct 9 2013, 09:28 PM

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I can feel the airbag behind the seat, and there is a slight sound when I move my back sometimes. It is as if there is some air pocket in the seats where the airbag is located. Anybody experience the same?

Audio is switched off. Preve Turbo.
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post Oct 9 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Oct 9 2013, 09:33 PM)
I did. Went to SC and had them fixed it smile.gif
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Ok thanks. May I ask how did they "fix" it? Did they open up the seats or something?
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post Oct 9 2013, 09:42 PM

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By the way, anybody uses Petronas fuel on the Preve Turbo here? I have been using Petronas on the Preve Turbo and now on my 1st tank of Caltex fuel, and apparently there is some perceived difference in performance between the two. I will need to pump a 2nd tank of Caltex to reconfirm if the Petronas fuel I am using all this while is the culprit to some of the issues I am experiencing previously.

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post Oct 10 2013, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Oct 9 2013, 11:20 PM)
i always use petronas,petron and caltex...caltex can feel more powerful,mileage so so only
i use petronas give me more mileage,btw..i lazy go caltex pump,not on my daily route biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the feedback. That is a pertinent point on selecting the petrol station based on daily route for convenience.

Is your Preve the low spec model or the high-spec Turbo version? If it's latter, do you experience any knocking sound in the engine with low speed acceleration at low rpms with Petronas fuel?
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post Oct 11 2013, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(bleeyw @ Oct 11 2013, 04:20 PM)
I have that knocking sound recently, when using Shell, yesterday topped up with Caltex, seems very less apparent. CFE model
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I appreciate your feedback. With this information now including myself we have 3 Preve Turbos with this knocking sound.

Previously I used Petronas Primax fuel and the knocking sound is quite apparent when accelerating at low to moderate speeds. Just recently I changed to Caltex and the knocking sound has reduced quite a bit. Not entirely diminished, as I can still hear some knocking but certainly not as loud as before with Petronas Primax.

Hopefully with this 2nd refill of Caltex fuel this weekend, the knocking sound will reduce even further or perhaps diminish completely. Wishful thinking. Surprisingly the Turbo engine is quite sensitive to the type of fuel that is used.

Since you are getting the knocking sound with Shell, guess that is out. I will try Caltex for 3-4 times before deciding whether to swap to BHP. If the knocking sound is completely gone with Caltex, it appears that I will have to stick with it for good.
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post Oct 12 2013, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Oct 12 2013, 01:37 AM)
i have not knocking issues with Shell 95...
Maybe it could be the ECU self learning and miscalculated?
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Not sure, though one thing is for sure is that I'll highlight this issue to Proton once my car is due for the 10,000km service. Will ask them to rectify it as well, if it is possible.
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post Oct 12 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Oct 12 2013, 10:52 AM)
mine still around 2200km odo... maybe my car still new can't notice the knocking...
but my myvi 2007 have the knocking sound even though pump the same shell 95 too...
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The knocking started after the 1st service at mileage 1,000km. Now my vehicle is approaching 5,000km and the knocking is still there albeit much reduced now. Don't know if it's due to the type of petrol (Caltex) or something else.

It is good that your vehicle does not exhibit knocking.
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post Oct 12 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Oct 12 2013, 02:14 PM)
just curious to know. what does this knocking sound like? Car moving only can hear?

sound like what?
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If you have driven a vehicle with manual transmission before, the knocking is sound is similar to what you'll be getting if you use 4th gear to accelerate the car when you are supposed to use 2nd gear.
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post Oct 12 2013, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Oct 12 2013, 08:30 PM)
maybe you using shell engine oil since you said after 1000km service have such sound?

i using Petronas 3000 when 1000km service + shell 95 all the while...
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I guess Proton service centres only use Petronas engine oil? Anyway the vehicle was on Petronas Syntium 800 during the 1,000km service and Petronas Primax RON95 all the while just until recently I switched to the 1st tank of Caltex.

I wonder why you were given Petronas Synthium 3000 whilst I was given Synthium 800 during the 1,000km service.
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post Oct 12 2013, 09:21 PM

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To Preve Turbo owners, may I ask what engine oil was given to you on the first 1,000km service?

Thanks.

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post Oct 13 2013, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Oct 12 2013, 11:52 PM)
I asked for Syntium 3000. I think most SC will provide a default Petronas type if no instruction given.

The SC showed me following Syntium range.

1. Syntium 3000 (5W-40)
2. Syntium 1000 (15W-50)
3. Syntium 800 (15W-50)

Anyone know what is the diff between 1000 & 800. Price almost double.

You have to pay more also for Syntium 3000.
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Thanks for the information. Much appreciated.

The Service Advisor that attended to me didn't advise on the engine oil options available, and I guess Synthium 800 was provided as default.

I noticed Synthium 800 is not full synthetic on the website. Is it supposed to last 10,000km?

Any Preve Turbo owners here who were given or had chosen the Synthium 800 during the 1st 1,000km service?
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post Oct 13 2013, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Oct 12 2013, 11:57 PM)
Ohh now i remember, the SC also put in XR1 Petrol Treatment. Did not ask for this but it was not very expensive (RM28) so tak apa lah.

Also the knocking, is the sound similar to shaking a spray can with the ball inside?
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Yes, the knocking sound is quite similar to shaking a spray can with a metal ball inside. It's like accelerating a vehicle with manual transmission in the wrong gear, say the 4th gear, when the right gear to use is 2nd gear or 3rd gear.
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post Oct 16 2013, 09:50 AM

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Early in the morning today finally managed to hit 180km/h on the PReve Turbo just for a short while before a vehicle in front foiled the attempt to go any faster. THe pickup from 120km/h to 180km/h seems to be quite effortless with the Turbo engine. It doesn't take long for the vehicle to climb up to 180km/h.

Anybody managed to hit 200km/h?
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Oct 16 2013, 01:23 PM)
How's the car stability during 180km/h ?
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Stability is good due to the firm suspension. The Preve Turbo's suspension is something that needs to be mentioned. It is firm and solid, and the sound of the suspension is a soft thud when going over imperfections on the road. In my mind, the suspension of the Preve Turbo is of higher quality compared to some Japanese models in the RM120k+/- price bracket which feels soft and floaty in comparison.

In high speed cruising, there is certainly no issue with stability mainly due to the weight of the vehicle and firm suspension. Rock solid stability. It's only the noise of the Turbo engine, but even that I feel the loudness of the engine at 180km/h is still not too bad. Doesn't sound like the engine is approaching its limits yet.
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post Oct 18 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(lol~ @ Oct 18 2013, 03:54 PM)
glad to hear that.since she wanna get preve, i want to suggest her getting the CFE one.more power biggrin.gif.

if there is no major issue on the CFE, i will suggest her to get CFE.thx!!
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Get the Turbo version. It is certainly worth it. The extra power on tap makes up for an exhilirating drive. Not that you want to drive fast and furious everytime but if you wanted a more powerful acceleration in everyday drive, you will regret it if you don't get the Turbo.

Only caveat, the manual shifting option, paddle shifters and S mode are a bit meh. The normal D is good for all driving conditions.

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