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post Dec 11 2015, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(roimekoi @ Dec 11 2015, 12:44 PM)
My as is 273 according to thia site

Kaga got 250
Zuiun12 7star got 23
http://www.kancolle-calc.net/aircrafts.html
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Noted. THanks for the update on exact no. of Air Power. But still that doesn't change to fact that, you cant get to wipe the enemy bombers enough to safe minimum level, Those remaining % of takoyaki can do quite some damage or even taiha to your BBs.

More air power > wipe more enemy bombers even though its AS.

Gonna try the latest build for 4-5 pre-boss => 5 CV + 1 BB => all blue bombers with AS air power...

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Result of 5CV 1BB (Failed at BOSS node because my darn BBV go hit the red hp fortress.. instead of 1 shot BOSS)

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post Dec 11 2015, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Dec 11 2015, 03:16 PM)
Urm
i am not sure if it will help
i have cleared 4-5 only once and deduce it is not worth the resource to do monthly but last time when i do

what i did was to equip FBB Haruna Kai Ni with AACI setup with 46cm as main canon.

she will not deal large damage but since there's other damage dealer i'm fine with it.

What do i get in return is that i don't have to worry about takoyakis taiha my fleet.
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THanks for the info on the AACI setup for BB.

actually with my older build => 2CV + 4BB, will clear 4-5 get the medal, but costing a lot more ammo and fuel.

Haruna with Double Red gun + AAFD + Sanshiki is very good AACI on H node + against BOSS during Yasen , but this setup has small chance to punch thru Takoyaki in 1 shot(chuuha), and barely scratch Golden BRS BB Kai, since no AP shells equipped.

in H node, the main objective is to chuuha/destroy Takoyaki CVs and at least, chuuha both Golden BRS BB kai, so that, they wont 1-2 shotted any of your ships.

AACI setup is only needed when you are using CA or lighter ship, since Takoyaki's Aerial bombings rarely affect our CV/BB due to thick armor + AS achieved. What we worry about the Takoyaki is, their shelling phase accuracy taiha us if we not chuuha them quickly.

Revised my fleet setup into 2BB 4CV for shelling phase stability:

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post Dec 11 2015, 04:58 PM

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6th run (2BB 4CV):

H node => perfectly safe as usual already 6 runs never being taiha:
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BOSS node: (Before enter Yasen, BOSS already 18/380)

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As usual, sparkled twice.

Setup for 4 CV:

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Result: Stable shelling output on destroying Golden BRS BB kai, and Takoyakis + AS achieved + enough backup for BOSS Yasen
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post Dec 12 2015, 07:12 AM

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7th run on the morning~: (LAST DANCE CLEARED)

Morale: Sparkled 3 times using PVP (to reach 53 morale)
Setup: 2BB 2CVB 2CV

C node: (Easy as usual but my Haruna suffered some scratch damage)
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H Node:(Most unluckiest among these 7 runs, 1 chuuha, 1 shouha)

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BOSS node:(a bit lucky cause they keep aiming Kaga and Haruna)

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Rewards: Medal & Kiyoshimo

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Re-posting the super efficient 4CV equips setup with 2BB equips:
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post Dec 13 2015, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 13 2015, 11:54 AM)
Finally cleared 2-4..  sweat.gif
2BBV, 2FBB, 1CVL and 1CV  laugh.gif
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Good job, fast get access of 3-2-A node, keep farming there till you can go to 4-1, 4-2.

These 2 nodes can easily get the rest of Kongou sisterz.


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post Dec 13 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 13 2015, 01:07 PM)
Already unlocked 4th fleet 2 days ago.
All the Kongou sister I got from 2-2.
My problem was Myoukou, she never dropped lol

Usually what do you suggest. 2 clearing maps and farming and the other 2 fleet doing expedition or how?
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After getting your 4th fleet, you need to unlock your expd up to expd 37 & 38 asap, and getting as many drum as possible from daily development quest

For bucket farming: Spam Expd 2 & 4 if you need them fast (both within 1 hour-frame)
For Fuel/Ammo: Spam expd 5 & 21(both in within 3 hours frame)
For Bauxite: expd 11, 35 & 36 (5, 7 and 9 hours-frame respectively)
For overnight spam: Expd 35 & 40 (7 hours-frame)

For maps clearing, after that hellish 2-4 clearance, the next map you need to clear is another hellish 3-2.

Clearing 3-2 need 1CL + 5DD, which you got almost none of them up to decent level yet. So start lvling up them now.

DDs choice for clearing 3-2 ONLY: Any Kagerou-class and Yuugumo-class DD, their kai version come with decent 12.7cm Late Model Green gun or Radars

If you need really decent Kai2 version DD with some good equipments:

Rare equipment wise: Fubuki/Murakumo/Hatsushimo
Firepower and earliest Kai2 : Yuudachi(Poi) / Shigure / Yukikaze
Luck-wise for super chance Torpedo cut-ins : Yukikaze/Hatsushimo/Shigure/Ushio/Ayanami
Secondary Kai 2 choice: Verniy(hibiki kai2), Akatsuki
High level expedition wise: Mutsuki Kai2, Kisaragi Kai 2

When choosing DDs to level up and remodel, you can follow such priority:

Luck stats after Kai/Kai2 > AAFD equipment > Night battle equipments > Radars > 12.7cm Green Gun mount(Late model)

Highly Recommended First 5 DD: Yuudachi/Shigure/Yukikaze/Hatsushimo/Ayanami
Subsequent 5(Optional): Mutsuki/Kisaragi/Fububki/Murakumo/Ushio

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 13 2015, 03:32 PM)
Thanks, that is some good suggestion right there.
Now to level up my DD. So far only have Hibiki, Shigure, and Fubuki almost turning Kai.

At what level do you think those DD's can give a fight at 3-2? hmm.gif
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If just to fight and clear 3-2, try to get Shimakaze/Yukikaze thru Construction recipe. The rest of the ships in suggestion can be constructed as well.

Recommended evasion to survive Double enemy BB at Node H: evasion needed to be 65-70 at least
3 of your DDs need to be Kai2 level in order to benefit from the stats boost.

Minimum levels recommended to clear: lvl 55- lvl 70 for Kai2 type DDs. Kagerou-class & Yuugumo-class at Kai level

Due to monthly 3-5 & 4-5 medals cycle, its highly recommended to spam 3-2-A node for lvling up your DDs asap to clear 3-2.

Way to spam 3-2-A: 4 CVL(chitose & chiyoda) arms with full blue torpedo bombers, and 2 DDs of your choice to wipe the enemy fleet.

When you feel its quite limited to only farm at 3-2-A node, its time to setup your fleet properly for PVP, cause PVP gives a lot of EXPs(S rank victory), try to get Kitakami Kai & Ooi Kai for overwhelming S rank victory at PVP.

As for CL choice ==> you can train Kiso & Abukuma if possible. But if you want a fast kai2 CL, you can go for Naka-chan the idol~(her kai2 requirement only lvl 48)

As for now, you can fully focus on lvling CVL/CL/DD/CLT as you see fit, and no need worry about BB/CV lvling, they will catch up with DDs etc very fast.
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post Dec 13 2015, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Dec 13 2015, 05:00 PM)
if no blueprint Abubear isnt that great sweat.gif
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With 1-5 & 2-5 medals X 2 months, if you can catch the timing correctly, you can instantly Kai2 her, her importance in Seasonal Events and other maps warrants the first choice of using blueprints on her.

When choukai and Maya Kai2 being introduced (I start to play kancolle at 9 March 2015), I actually achieve maya Kai 2 in my first 5th week, and Choukai Kai 2 using my very first blueprints~

That time my 4th fleet not yet unlocked =_=|||

Timeline:

9 March 2015 => started playing kancolle
13 March 2015 => Maya Kai Ni introduced by Game Update
27 March 2015 => Choukai Kai Ni introduced by Game Update
6 April 2015 => my very first Maya Kai Ni
8 April 2015 => my Choukai Kai Ni using my very first blueprint~
8 April 2015 => 4th fleet unlocked.

Maya Kai2
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73792250
Choukai Kai2
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73820936

As long as you got the will, its possible~
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post Dec 13 2015, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Dec 13 2015, 10:08 PM)
This is effect of 3-2-A for 171 run in the time of 8 hour of gameplay in total.
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Instant 4 Kai and 2 Kai Ni
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From lvl 1? and keep sending non-stop regardless the morale?

I always farm 4-1, so not sure about 3-2-A efficiency

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post Dec 13 2015, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Dec 13 2015, 10:37 PM)
yeap

as long as flagship is MVP ( Highest damage dealer)
all my CV/CVL get trained this way except for Akagi due to she's the first CV and you know la the time where all this farming maps haven't reveal to the public yet.
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How to ensure the Flagship highest damage dealer? Just equip the rest of the CVLs with the normal tenzans?

So far I got 2 sets of KTKM and Ooi (1st set lvl99, 2nd set also hitting 95++), ABKM & Kiso also almost 99... all due to PVP exp leeching... basically 6 CLT ready for full-scale war...

Looks like I need to marry all the lvl 99 ships T_T... how many ships you married? me so far Maya K2 & Choukai K2:

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post Dec 13 2015, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 13 2015, 10:46 PM)
Sounds good bruh. Thanks
Lucky I guess. I just keep doing 2-2 for 2 days.. Got all 4 in that time frame  laugh.gif
At the same time Shimakaze also drop wub.gif

Now need to try to get Yukikaze pulak  doh.gif
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Yukikaze try to get from construction asap, she is the only DD which kai at lvl 20, and yet having super imba stats after maxed by modernizing, while having highest starting LUCK, which almost 100% guaranteed Torpedo combo Cut In if equipped with Skilled Crew.

While yuudachi wins Yukakze in term of Firepower and Torp stats, but she perform rather much inferior than Yukikaze, especially on Evasion stats, which is very important for most DDs.

Yuugumo & Kagerou class DDs, their kai level requirements is pretty low compare to other Kai Ni's, and yet providing decent & solid stats for clearing many maps/events, along with some rare equipments, Not the best in any stats, but reliable at low-medium level.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Dec 14 2015, 05:31 AM)
alright, time to upgrade ship with blueprint, but question is.. who gets the lucky spot?

Choukai - good surface radar, and skilled lookouts
Yamashiro/Fusou - gets 41cm proto + better Zuiun
Katsuragi - gets zero 52C 601, ryuusei 601
Unryuu - gets zero 52C 601, suisei 601, tenzan 601
Tone /Chikuma - 20.3cm (3) + zuiun 634
Roma / Littorio - 381mm Kai, OTO and 90mm
Zuikaku - nothing

tempted for Littorio upgrade, MayaKai2 could use the extra AA with 90mm but interested in Tone and Fusou class for their better Zuiuns, 41 proto and CAV for tone class.

planes wise, the CVs above isnt much better than my current, but Ryuusei 601 caught my eye. Choukai has good radar and skilled lookouts hmmm
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Zuikaku is 1 of the top choices, having an extra CVB for higher level maps and events is more important of having more plane counts per slot, thick armor + high evasion, what else you need from a carrier? With CVB-class, I can safely put her into non-flagship fleet slot, or even some slot often under heavy fire.

Choukai 2nd, the Kai4 surface radar is really useful in many situation, for LOS etc. Don't mention the Skill lookouts quite important for Yasen for any DDs...

Fusou-class & tone class - Pick 1 of each class, if you have limited blueprint in disposal, having a Fully upgraded BBV is very useful in 4-5 sub node, and having a top-spec CAV helps in branching(but not a must due to Suzuya/Kumano pressence)

Unryuu-class wise: Its depend on which design you desire more, Katsuragi's slender body with a lot of fetishes, or Unryuu's busty type

Roma/Littorio: I want to get Roma so much T_T...


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post Dec 14 2015, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(zemperor @ Dec 14 2015, 09:32 AM)
wow shocking.gif even shimakaze u also got so early thumbup.gif
well, it's all about RNG... i think i get my shimakaze and yukikaze at event

and i also get a few of them at last event too mad.gif  vmad.gif
the flagship equip with best blue plane, maybe yellow gun can help to make sure she attack first
other ship just weaker red plane + radar + suiun will do

probably the CV are easiest one to train
can totally ignore morale if flagship can get MVP

i also lazy to train another KTKM and Ooi laugh.gif and my kiso still only kai cry.gif
for me, most of my high level ship get their level from event (i'm a lazy person, not use much after they kai ni)

and my first ring still in my inventory laugh.gif
i want to give the ring to ship that luck can help them better... maybe KTKM or Maya
i also facing this problem as well, and i have limited blueprint sad.gif
i only have 1-5, 2-5 and 3-5 only (world 4 only 4-3 tongue.gif )

for me, i also have about same list as yours, other than tone/chikuma (i already have them)

i'm more interest with yamashiro, but the planes from the green CV seems not bad too
looks like i have my answer here
thanks for sharing

looks like Zuikaku is a good choice, maybe they will have special plane in future
but choukai and unryuu not bad too

it seems unryuu is better, one more plane than katsuragi (i'm not talking about their body tongue.gif )
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Just married KTKM and Ooi yesterday, a bit regret to raise another set of Ooi-class CLTs to 80++ lvl...
Fusou & Yamashiro kai2 is surprisingly useful and able to hold the firepower on par with Mutsu/Nagato~


QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Dec 14 2015, 09:48 AM)
No no,
no blue planes
higher bauxite use and lower hit rate.
my method is non-stop sortie for at least 70 times continuously
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So FLagship is 2 strongest red planes + 2 yellow cannon?

The rest just 2 weakest red + 2 radars?

Kindly share your CVs setup for 3-2-A unlimited spam works~
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post Dec 14 2015, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 14 2015, 12:40 PM)
Guys PVP only can play 5 per day is it?  hmm.gif

Also why sometimes I play at 1-5, submarine damage is good, but sometimes.. they just somehow can't deal much damaged in the 2nd node?
I'm playing 1-5 with a bunch of DDs
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PVP always reset at 2am and 2pm(Malaysia time), so you can challenge 10 players per day

For 1-5 you will need:

1BBV + 1CVL + 2CL(4 ships allowed only to reach BOSS) => all in ASW equipments(blue bombers, Sonar and Depth Charges)

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post Dec 14 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 14 2015, 02:21 PM)
Oh thanks. Good info.
Was hoping for unlimited PVP lol

Turns out what I did wrong was the formation. No wonder not much damaged on SS  doh.gif
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Line Ahead formation => suitable to use almost all battle(100% damage) especially BOSS fights, but very bad against submarines.

Double Line => Day Battle => Only suitable for fleets consist of CV & BB only, 80% of normal damage but better accuracy; Starting night battle ==> better evasion against Double attack based fleet(CA/CL based)

Diamond Formation => Avoid this at all cost, lowest evasion on shelling and torpedoes from enemies, and poor damage(70% damage)

Echelon => same useless as Diamond

Line Abreast => Best formation against submarines, and best used in Starting Night battle, better evasion against torpedoes based enemy fleet(DD/PT imps)
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Dec 14 2015, 04:04 PM)
yeah but already have Shoukaku atm as CVB, so not fretting so much yet on another CVB

Skilled Lookouts ive already have one, not sure the 2nd is useful (i didnt use it last event also)

Fusou/Tone class are most likely, cause CAV and that Zuiuns

but yeah Unryuu class CVs are rather decent, after Kai-ed
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What I feel after this Fall event,

1. Skilled Lookouts always better than engine, thus having more than 2 is always better.
2. After Aircraft Proficiency is introduced, its CVB era now... Kaga-class literally become 2nd tier bombers CV, but remain first-class Reppu Mule~ having more CVB is always good since the Game Update.

3. Fusou definitely > Tone over a blueprint usage.

4. By completing shoukaku and Zuikaku quest for flight deck, you should be having 4 Zuiun 634 group, but type 12 Zuiun is much superior. And Fusou-class Kai 2 also recovered from the firepower penalty of Kai version, with a decent ASW capability.

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Dec 14 2015, 04:35 PM)
Kasumi gets Kai 2 early next month
my Kasumi right now is level 66, and long time ago I considered to scrap her but didnt managed to do it
but instead I put her in ASW division I created myself for 1-5 monthly map and pvp rekt all subs purpose

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Currently my ASW Division
Izusu Kai 2 (soon to be retire because level 99 soon)
Hamakaze level 87
Yukikaze level 86
Kasumi level 66
Urakaze level 65
Nowaki level 60
Asagumo level 45

now taking newcomers
Hagikaze level 11
Hatsukaze level 14
Arashi level 14
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Very curious how much improvement on her illus design...

I guess ASW and DDs is my weakest department though... So far only have:

Hatsushimo 97
Fubuki 95
Poi 77
Shigure 75
Akatsuki 73
Mutsuki 71
Shimakaze 72

Others: 30-50

My current lvling regime for DDs:

1. Enroll the super new DDs into PVP anti sub fleet.
2. After some leveling, put them into Katori Expedition Fleet until Kai version for their equipment-stripping(Radars, Late model Guns, etc)
3. Until Kai lvl, put them into Seasonal Event/Maps clearing/Daily quest
4. Only aim to keep Yuugumo/Kagerou rare event DDs, and some Kai2 DDs...

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post Dec 15 2015, 05:58 PM

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Already 7th run on 3-5... Hoppou-chan still can 1 shotted my Maya Kai2 with 102 evasion(added steam engine)...

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Epic Benefit of having 2 CVB around: always save my butt during the crucial times.

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and Late news though:


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post Dec 18 2015, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 16 2015, 12:27 PM)
I see.. Think i'll take a break for a week just for the resource to replenish..
Then power level again.. or if lazy to play yolo lsc lol
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Before you do LSC, make sure you get Z1 or Z3... to get bismarck

other than her, try to get Taihou only from LSC, cause not yet ready for Yamato and Musashi since your upkeep not yet sufficient and not familiar with expd yet...

I don't even need Yamato/Musashi to complete the Event/Bonus stage, as both of them are so fuel/ammo eating monster~

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