if defense procurement is done transparently and without any songlaping, not many will question..but reality is that MinDef is lubok for songlaping

to me, MinDef better lubok for songlaping since any procurement can be kept secret due to 'national security'. Of coz, some procurement must be kept top secret due to its security nature, but many data can be easily obtain regarding on what type of equipment being installed. For example, the subs procurement, which many songlapers backers argue must not be disclosed to the public, walhal can actually be easily tarced back on what equipment being installed by researching the vendors involved. Only the sensitive parts like data encryption maybe not on the companies' datasheet. So, argument that we publicly say we bought 2 scorpene but also another one in secret is pure crap..

Samudera class have big potential for converting into patrol vessels, Dun think it would require that much of re-designing..

Once fully armed, Kedah-class would be quite awesome..

why not go for air-breathing supersonic anti-ship missiles?

I dun mean using the current Samudera's design. I mean using the Samudera design to build a larger vessel..

If got this duriang LD incursion, kan nice can pew pew the suluks using this

same thing applies to European/Russian equipment?

its more of something nice to have..

so, can wat..we utilised the technical expertise garnered from kedah and Samudera-class to design larger patrol vessel..

but aerial gunships does have a huge pyschological effect towards the enemy..wat enemy wont shit in their pants when such aerial gunship starts opening heavy fire on them..such gunships also should be equipped with sight-assist electronics like FLIR to target the enemy

ada iras2 raifel Vita ler

aiyo, its not like same weaponry will be used against every single battlefield scenario la...depends on the battlefield and foe encountered lar...

kenot enter la..so wats the story?

errr, AV8 kenot swim ka?

nak lupuskan barang2 lama kot

aku setuju kalau uss denver tu dijadikan sbg learning platform utk future dokdo/mistral nnt...pastu kalau ada dokdo/mistral enter service, maybe leh refurbish sikit uss denver tu sbg hospital ship ke..

itu thai/indon/pinoy marines pun ada kapal seumpama uss denver?

I forgot about Indon Makassar-class

Indon can build their own LPD, Malaysia bila lagi? tak rasa tercabar ke?

dunno if Indon got good ASW, but they also got subs and have more experience in using subs than us

alang2 tu, beli je la Zubr-class hovercraft

or maybe its telling everyone I am coming, so everyone will shit in their pants

any hovercraft will make big noise, even those puny pathetic hovercrafts the Brits are using..but the uss denver is bundled with aav and some lcac, why not go buy...with the possibility of armed conflict in south china sea, we can either be US or China's beetch..

tuler, if the Indons can build their own LPD, why we kenot lak? If we are serious in establishing a Marine force, LPD is essential for transportation of marine force

looks damn nice...guess no funding..pity, if develop properly, then can market to other countries..

besar tul main gun dia ...bukan slalu ye for this type of vessels, only have air defense capabilities?

Vietnam already got that..

I tot US once offered us PAC-3, knock down version but still a PAC-3..I agree with u, medium-long range SAM is essential..

thats the problem, buying either US, Russian, Chinese or European has its own disadvantage..

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besar tul main gun dia tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif ...bukan slalu ye for this type of vessels, only have air defense capabilities?

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Mmg kesemua kapal amphibious setakat ada self-defence AA aje. Tapi elok kalau ada meriam besar untuk shore bombardment mcmana LST Ropucha ke Alligator Russia ada MRL 122mm untuk shore bombardment. Takkan nak harap Bofors 57mm atau OTO 76mm tu...kocik bebenor...

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aku pernah cadangkan utk design kapal bersaiz korvet atau large patrol craft, pastu letak dlm 3 double-barrel turret AMOS dan MLRS...

easy solution, sell cheap-cheap to north korea..