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PC Audio Altec Lansing Fans Club (approaching 90 members), Sound Leadership For The Digital Age

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post Dec 30 2006, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Dec 30 2006, 09:05 PM)
haha, u may come to try when i go back to KL.
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u in miri now? I'm staying in sarawak too.. but not Miri ler.. tongue.gif maybe need ur suggestion to replace the cable connecting the sats to the sub of the MX5021.. notworthy.gif
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post Dec 31 2006, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 31 2006, 03:06 PM)
You got that right Bro. ATP3 is a legend and classic, will never be forgotten.  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(lAh0S @ Dec 31 2006, 04:24 PM)
But at last i also invest in MX5021, and gave my ATP3 to my gf.
My gf also love ATP3 very much, i mean love me more la, ATP3 lesser a bit. tongue.gif
When i ask why, she said don't know. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Dec 31 2006, 04:44 PM)
tongue.gif if she love the atp3 more than you, time to "upgrade" your girlfriend. My girl on the other hand loves my SR80 more than my atp3. I say i'll give her my atp3 but she insist on my Grado! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 31 2006, 08:48 PM)
You tell her that you're not giving up on your Grado or the door is always open. Hahaha. rclxms.gif
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Don't you guys think recent ATP3's feels a bit 'cheap'? both sound and material wise.. whistling.gif
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post Dec 31 2006, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 31 2006, 09:39 PM)
Come on lah Bro, for less than RM170, what do you expect? MX5021 quality? ATP3 ain't that bad, it's still better than most competing brands and has won many awards before.  rclxms.gif
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Don't you guys think recent ATP3's feels a bit 'cheap'? both sound and material wise..
I mean recent batches ler.. laugh.gif
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post Jan 2 2007, 11:35 PM

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I think MX5021 is being phased out in the US market.. check the US website, they still list it, but it stated there as 'outdated'... blink.gif

hopefully it's still available here.. want to get MX5021 soon... real soon.. like tomorrow.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 3 2007, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 3 2007, 12:04 PM)
Dun panic, it will be a while before it is phased out here. Why do I say so? Well, like AL ATP 3, is has been phased out for a long time in other countries but you can still get a new one here and it's still available here. I highly doubt that MX5021 will disappear from the market just like that and many shops still selling it so don't worry.  smile.gif

Well, FX6021 is a little too sharp for my liking but there's a successor to FX6021 in the US and it is priced around RM1000 plus but not available here yet. Shocking price but I don't really know how does it sound like, hopefully, it's audiophile quality.
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Confirmed one unit.. should be arriving around the middle of January... whistling.gif wish.gif

The FX6021 'successor' model is PT6021.. from specs, it has a lower power rating than the FX6021.. and I'd remember it is listed under professional audio section some time ago... shocking.gif

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found the official PT6021 page..
http://www.alteclansing.com/product_details.asp?pID=PT6021

The 'professional audio' version SLS6221 page is here..
http://www.altecpro.com/products/powered/index.htm

strangely, they both look similar and have similar specs... sweat.gif

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post Jan 27 2007, 08:59 PM

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Finally got my own MX5021.. will write a mini review later.. biggrin.gif

BTW.. anyone knows how to remove the cloth grille on the sats and the sub? hmm.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 28 2007, 12:43 AM)
Well, use your finger nail to ply it open, not too difficult but when it's new, it's harder to remove, that's normal, not to worry. Without the grill, the sound is slightly better.  drool.gif
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I'd try it when I'm free.. But I think i'll be leaving it on most of the times because dust might stain the drivers and the surface.. plus I don't want my friends poking the drivers out of the sudden.. bruce.gif laugh.gif

Okay.. my initial comments on the MX5021.. just after a few hours of usage..

First impressions of the speakers to me was how big and impressive the whole set looks, although it wasn't that big if u really measure it.. maybe I just wasn't used to seeing big speakers or probably it was placed next to other dwarf-lings.. laugh.gif

Placement of the sub isn't what you call a wall hugging setup already.. it's a few feet from the walls, but still at near-corner position.. sats are placed around 3 feet apart, and 3 feet from me..

Onto test drive.. using my own Acer TravelMate 3202XCi laptop.. currently still using the onboard AC'97 sweat.gif for testing purposes.. due to my weekend break from school.. the speaker will be paired with PSC805 real soon.. whistling.gif

Played a few MP3's, FLAC and CDs.. techno/electronic music sounds different on the Altec when compared to my old Edifier X600 boomer.. the bass is more taut/tight.. but I can get used to that.. nod.gif But some tracks does sounds nicer and have a more controlled bass compared to X600 bass (I know it's unfair to judge by these two, but that's what I've had before MX5021.. tongue.gif) while some tracks the lower end seems to be less noticable and the mids/highs are just sharp.. nice, but can be annoying after long period of listening. unsure.gif

Tried some oldies CDs.. they just sound clear and nice.. with emphasis on the vocals.. can't really comment much coz they're oldies.. and they sound they sounded just like what it should sound.. (whatever that means..) laugh.gif

Rock songs seems to be a little too harsh on the MX5021.. some of the softer snares seems recessed into the background (maybe recording error?)..

All in all, I'd prefer to have the treble turn a little less than half of the max.. and bass at the level 3-4.. but turned up to 5 when I need the oomph.. thumbup.gif
The bass produced gives more low end thump than a hum.. and with so much power under the hood, I didn't notice it was already so loud (can hear the bass and vocals clearly outside my room and downstairs) that my ears started to get a little painful just with 2-3/5 volume levels.. (Windows settings at ~50%)..

and the sound stage is really nice.. compared to X600.. and watched an episode of DVD-quality Happy Feet, the bass doesn't kick in in places that X600 starts to hum.. but in scenes like the part where mumble was alone and attacked by the seals (was that a seal? laugh.gif), the low thumps are really nice.. and vocals are very clear.. almost too sharp (initially with the treble turned a little too high) that I still had to leave the treble not more than 3 steps..

Will continue using it for a while and unite it with PSC805 soon laugh.gif

more comments coming soon.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 28 2007, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 28 2007, 01:14 AM)
The speakers need to warm up first, after a few hundred hours, the sound will be more open and the bass won't be too stiff and artificial. Believe me, you'll notice the difference, just keep on feeding it with some music and movies.  rclxms.gif
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I knew about the whole 'burn in' habit of most speaker enthusiast.. been there, done that.. so I'd agree burning in does gives it a 'more complete' sound.. nod.gif

so i'm planning to play it as usual first.. maybe turn up the volume a bit for some head banging session.. laugh.gif see if the bass and treble is more 'relaxed'.. smile.gif

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post Jan 28 2007, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Jan 28 2007, 10:12 AM)
Bro, where did you get your MX5021 from? How much is it? I'm glad that there's another happy MX5021 user  biggrin.gif  Enjoy your speakers~

Thanks  smile.gif
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Got it in Sarawak.. A black coloured unit.. retail pricing here is around RM600 for MX5021.. really expensive due to the transportation fees added in... doh.gif But I've got mine a little bit cheaper.. rolleyes.gif

I really admire the looks.. biggrin.gif and the sound is still a little iffy at the moment.. need to give it some time to burn in.. smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Jan 28 2007, 08:08 PM)
What u mean iffy ? I am interested to get the set also smile.gif seems like an excellent all rounder for pc
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Dunno how to explain.. hehe.. something that i'm not used to.. probably because of too much listening to my old Edifier X600 set.. tongue.gif

Overall is a good set.. the bass is similar to the old ACS45.1 system.. a very low end thump (maybe the result of low crossover point) but is more defined and more 'accurate' laugh.gif..

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plus the mids and treble are good.. still in the process of burning in.. smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Jan 28 2007, 10:07 PM)
Wow, really? I asked the shops at Summit but they are selling at RM570.. sad.gif

Btw, anyone tried pairing the MX5021 with the Little Dot 2+? How does is perform?  drool.gif
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Seems like the price had been hiked a little compared to last year.. doh.gif

Little Dot 2+? I thought it's an headphone amp?

In my opinion, you should pair it to an amp that has more midrange and treble warmth since MX5021 has a little too much treble and mids emphasis to my taste.. so it's more listen-able all-rounder.. tongue.gif

Probably I'm just not used to speakers emphasising on mids and treble.. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 30 2007, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(narkon @ Jan 30 2007, 11:33 AM)
ahahaha...now oso got dy...but my 1st gf is still my cs21 la....2nd is my real gf...hehehehe biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

thats y la...so kedekut to give cuti... sad.gif  sad.gif

in ur opinion,wat is the best 2.1 speaker that is resonable and superb?? i mean overall...all brands...

and,does 5.1 speaker have sound better than 2.1 speaker system??
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sorry to budge into the conversation between u two.. whistling.gif

but in my opinion, everyone has their own taste of speakers.. I realise it when I got my own MX5021.. for example.. some might love MX5021 because it has strong mids and highs and a taut bass.. while some like Logitech/Klipsch for its 'rounder' boomier bass reproduction.. so everyone have their own definition of 'best speaker'.. smile.gif

QUOTE(narkon @ Jan 30 2007, 11:33 AM)
ahahaha...now oso got dy...but my 1st gf is still my cs21 la....2nd is my real gf...hehehehe biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

thats y la...so kedekut to give cuti... sad.gif  sad.gif

in ur opinion,wat is the best 2.1 speaker that is resonable and superb?? i mean overall...all brands...

and,does 5.1 speaker have sound better than 2.1 speaker system??
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For me, there's no point of up-mixing a stereo source for 5.1 playback right? so if what you do is listening to music, a 2.1 set would be sufficient.. getting a 5.1 setup (together with the cable mess) is only worth if you're serious in surround movies and gaming.. tongue.gif

Heck, for movies that's downloaded from BT sites, they're good enough for 2.1 sets already... laugh.gif
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post Jan 30 2007, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Jan 30 2007, 07:15 PM)
If I'm not wrong, tweeters are supposed to be responsible for producing high frequency sounds (I think these makes the sound clearer and sharper). Logitech speakers do not have them, thus the sound produced is on the muffled side.  smile.gif
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Logitech speakers usually incorporate the so called 'phase plug' technology into their full range drivers, which are supposed to be something similar to a tweeter, but I don't think it's as effective as an actual tweeter though..
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QUOTE(miliardo83 @ Jan 31 2007, 06:57 PM)
Wow~~ I have try the Q Acoustic 1010 in SS2 here... Excellent speaker... with excellent treble and middle... excellent "punch" of bass, with a soft bass... You can go and try it... <RM1,000's speaker...

The cons is the bass is too soft... it need to pair with a good subwoofer...
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Altec MX5021 and CS21.. and Aego M (some people recommend it for its excellent mid-treble range sounds) could be under your consideration.. MX5021 and CS21 has more 'punch' that you want I suppose.. laugh.gif
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post Feb 1 2007, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(miliardo83 @ Jan 31 2007, 10:46 PM)
Thanks for ur info...

Why Altec Lansing didn't get any awards? Or i am wrong?
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Awards? from who? laugh.gif they're more like reviews (and maybe awards) and recommendations for a specific model rather than for the whole company..
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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Feb 3 2007, 11:02 PM)
I went to LYP today hoping to get a set of MX5021 at a reasonable price. But was I disappointed. I heard from some forumers that this model is being sold at around RM530. So, I asked around the shops to see if I was able to get the price. However, they were offering RM545-570.

One of the shop who offered me thr pricetag of RM545 even said, "At this price, I only earn RM10". Is it true? If it is, I should have just bought it at the area nearer to my place, instead of spending half my day to go down to LYP.. sad.gif

I hope to get enlightment regarding the prices of this MX5021..  icon_question.gif
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I think the price has been hiked up this year.. retail around Sarawak is something around RM6xx++.. sweat.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(Faint @ Feb 7 2007, 12:48 AM)
Hi all Altec Lansing owners, can i know is it Altec Lansing MX 5021 got 2 model?
if got, Can post some photo?
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2 models? 2 colours have lar.. Usual one is black.. MX5021.. white one is called MX5021-WHT..

lAh0s have the white version while I have the black one.. from comparison, the only obvious difference is 1. the colour, and 2. the sub on the white coloured one doesn't come with a cloth grille while the black version comes with a cloth grille.. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(themagnificentman @ Feb 7 2007, 12:28 AM)
well..bass insufficient? but i read many reviews that say it goes bang bang boom..
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its bass reproduction is different from, for example, Klipsch GMX or Logitech Z-xxx.. it's tighter, more thump and less hum.. laugh.gif

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post Feb 7 2007, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Faint @ Feb 7 2007, 01:27 PM)
Oh, thanks for ur information!!!!
I prefer black color coz its include clothe grille rclxms.gif
With this, i think spekaer will not easily get dirty!!!
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Either colour gets stained easily.. by fingerprints and dust of course.. the sats are covered with a glossy finish.. so it's a fingerprint magnet.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(incinerate @ Feb 8 2007, 04:50 PM)
Hi guys, I'm on a lookout for 2.1 speakers and came across Altec FX4021. Anyone owns one? Would like to know the comparison between FX4021 and MX5021  hmm.gif

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Never heard FX4021 personally, but many said it's much inferior to the MX5021..

Specificication wise, MX5021 pwns FX4021.. laugh.gif

FX4021's sub is in isobaric configuration.. which (according to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isobaric_speakers) delivers the same amount of frequency response with a smaller volume of enclosure space.. but many said it's not that effective.. design flaw maybe? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(xtreme_paladin @ Feb 8 2007, 06:04 PM)
Mids - tie, but I feel both of them has certain hollowness in some vocals (both uses polypropelene material).
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no wonder some tracks sounded weird.. hmm.gif maybe some burn-in might "cure" this problem a little.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(xtreme_paladin @ Feb 8 2007, 06:04 PM)
Some models of MX5021 has static hiss, changing the cable helps a lot. Altec speakers are notoriously known for static hiss. There is one more speaker I feel is more balanced and worth looking, the CS21 (disadvantage is that it has no remote control and no treble adjustment). But none of these models can match 621 and 641 models.
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I'd agree there's a considerable amount of hiss emitted form the tweeter, especially listened from less than 1 meter distance.. I wonder where you get the information that changing cable can help with the hiss? hmm.gif notworthy.gif

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