Nokia MS strategy is different.
All other OEMs for Android, with exception of Google, runs on economy of scale. Especially the fact that the core OS itself doesn't need much R&D, since Google has done most of the heavy lifting for them. Not to say that they don't have costs, just not as high as how Google has to pay.

On the other hand, Google doesn't need to sell their Nexus with profit. They sell it with near-zero margin. Where does Google earn their money? By profiling users. Ads, profiles, etc.

BlackBerry sells I think less than 3M BB10 per quarter, and from their quarter reports, from January indicates that they have produced about  (that's assuming 90 days is considered a quarter, give and take). Therefore BlackBerry does not enjoy the economy of scale to mass produce even the low end on low prices)

I don't think BlackBerry can lower their price point at this stage even if they wanted to. With recent news of their hardware partners unable to produce due to low demand, I think if BlackBerry wants to achieve the economy of scale with or without profit they'll need to

b) elect or partner with new hardware vendor that can meet up with BlackBerry's super strict QA on security (they have some very strict QA on their products in their factories, its a well known fact) yet achieve the economy of scale.

c) make deals with Qualcomm so that they won't lose out being first partners. Or, jump to Intel? (In the past the deal with TI-OMAP used to be very good, until TI-OMAP suddenly reversed its decision and abandoned the SoC market, and decided to only focus on the embedded chipset market, much to the chagrin of BlackBerry (where they have to re-code the entire thing from scratch)

If you compare it with Moto X, yeah.

But for the fact that its one of the phones that can piggyback BB10 and Android OS, its quite the bargain actually.

yeah its quite difficult to find a case for Z30 especially a flip case. I only manage to find bumper case in Lowyat

You know, both of the quotes are already, very outdated.
(Yes, I realize that you quoted my words)

The answer to first quote.
===> FOXCONN (LOL!)
To the second quote:
The Z30 is very powerful. Dual core processor + quad core GPU with 2GB of RAM = smoothness. It won't be faster than any other Android phones. But it will be SMOOTH. The 10.2.1 Android runtime update is good enough. Think of it as Nokia X. But it can do better than Nokia X's silly implementation of redirecting services to Microsoft services. But that's another story.
But the best way to explain the BlackBerry experience is that... "its an acquired taste". I don't drink alcohol, but I think those who do can really understand this term.

Three reasons why BB10 is really good.
1) Blackberry Hub is simply the most efficient and effective communications manager.
2) Has very good multi-tasking implementation. The "cards" are running apps. But they are also widgets that updates and presents information.
3) Swipe gestures are the way forward. Its weird at first, but once you're used to it, its hard not to appreciate how effective swiping is compared to pressing buttons.

4) Lack of apps. But if you use a BB10 device having 100 apps installed probably not on the agenda.

I'm not buying from Lowyat.net but from Lowyat Plaza, Bukit Bintang KL

may i know the current market value of used Z30?
plan to trade with my moto x / buy it

i used z10, then after jahanam already, i jumped to moto x..
now want bb10 back again with bigger screen..
miss the hub

On the lag when typing, I suspect its the processor not giving the OS enough power. If you just switched in from another platform (as in the phone's new, and you just jammed in everything you could find on the blackberry world + snap (google play) and all the contacts sync, etc... You may need to give it a few days, probably more if you're a super heavy user, for the OS to settle down. This is often true after OS updates / new OS installs.

The latest OS 10.2.1.3175 would eliminate this (the so called keyboad lag), because its tuned to give more processing power on all apps.

wow.. now only i know what BIS is.. hahaha

my last BIS subscription was dec 2013.. im using celcom RM25/month.. i notice my data will reduce when i stream youtube.. other than that, my data will remain the same..

p/s im prepaid user

Yeahh updated to 10.2.1.xxxx..

Snap not yet..currently outside...showing around my friends..hahahaha

My friend test and said the voice call is really clear than his htc..

I heard the keyboard is touch sensitive, no idea how is that going to work 

download snap.., and your blackberry experience will become wild! wild as in wild partyyy!!

i got snap last month.. and have been smiling ever since.! it's very easy.. get the step from crackberry... just use the chrome extension.. load snap.! voila..!

now you can use - maybank2u.., book cinema ticket using gsc.., MAS ticket, get access to lowyat.net forum directly! .. and all other ebanking and mobile stockbroking from your z30.!

best of all.. you don't feel any slowness at all!

the more reason.. why z30 is great phone.! battery last 1.5days..

happy with my Z30., infact bought 2-3 more for family members to be on same device!

now planning to upgrade to 10.3

I'm still hesitating to get a BB. Last time had a 9700. The experience was good except for the dreaded hourglass wait. Then changed to my current S3, which is a shitty phone. Lags like hell.

Many told me BB is a dying company. My playbook was the best tablet I had, the multitasking feature is 2nd to none but the apps and games were poor.

Still trying to convince myself to get a Z30.... :'(

What's USB-On-The-Go?

Hm, just reformat my sd card. Right now it can be detected by my laptop, it using exFAT format. Its weird actually..the card come with exFAT format at the first place but my phone can't detect it.
Anyone experience using higher amp charger to charge your phone? I'm used to charge my z30 with samsung travel charger, 5.3V 2.1A. The first several charge, the phone charge very fast but right now it won't charge anymore with that charger. I need to use lower Voltage and Amperage charger only then my phone can be recharge back.

Anyone experience this?

nak tanya bb z30 ni ada masalah sangkut2 / hang mcm android fon?
cth: bila buka fb time nk scroll tu dia sangkut2....Tq

Jumping from nexus 4 to z30. happy with this new phone. Berat than my previous n4. 

guy..original bb warranty from ? i start interesting bb z30 while waiting iphone 6 lunch..

As for the battery life I found that it can only last 15 hours at most instead of the reported 1 or 1 1/2 day of usage. I had set the screen brightness to around 10%, disable auto toke update and unnecessary communication capability. Device monitor showed that the Display is the biggest energy sucker and CPU usage is normal with no application hogging the demand.

Awesome!!! It will become a lot more awesome after the 10.3 update next month 

there are some other shops like DirectD that sell for RM10xx...    do a search in Mudah