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post Sep 18 2013, 06:56 PM, updated 13y ago

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BlackBerry unveils the Z30 as its new flagship smartphone

(Reuters) - BlackBerry Ltd launched its new Z30 flagship smartphone on Wednesday, as it battles to win back market share despite uncertainty around its future.

Once a pioneer in the smartphone arena, BlackBerry said last month it was weighing options that could include an outright sale, in the face of lacklustre sales for its new devices that run on the BlackBerry 10 operating system.

The long-rumored Z30 device, which is first being unveiled at an event in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, will be BlackBerry's new top-of-the-line device, taking the crown from the smaller Z10 that was launched early this year.

The new touchscreen device, which boasts a five-inch display and a 1.7 gigahertz processor, will compete against the likes of Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) new iPhone 5S and Samsung Electronics Co's (005930.KS) Galaxy S4, along with a slew of other devices that are powered by Google Inc's (GOOG.O) Android platform.

The company faces an uphill battle in generating interest in the new phone, however, given the lack of clarity around its future.

While the company has long aspired to make its BlackBerry 10 operating system the No. 3 smartphone platform in the market, the latest industry data indicates that Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Windows Phone platform is in fact more likely to clinch that spot as its devices continue to gain ground.

Although the new line of BlackBerry devices has been well received by reviewers, analysts say the company lacks the financial heft to vie against industry giants like Apple, Google, Samsung and Microsoft, which boast massive marketing and R&D budgets.

Some analysts contend that Microsoft's move earlier this month to acquire Nokia's (NOK1V.HE) phone business and license its patents for 5.44 billion euros, poses another hurdle for BlackBerry, as the software giant is likely to redouble its catch-up efforts in the mobile device business.

But Waterloo, Ontario-based BlackBerry, which is set to report its fiscal second-quarter results next week, appears to be sticking with its product roadmap for now, even as it reviews its alternatives.

The company, which touts the Z30 as its "biggest, fastest and most advanced smartphone" to date, said the device will begin to hit store shelves in the UK and parts of the Middle East as early as next week.

The smartphone will go on sale with select carriers and retailers in other regions over the remainder of the year, said the company, adding specific pricing and availability will be announced by its partners at the time of their respective launches.

(Reporting by Euan Rocha; Editing by Mark Potter)

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post Sep 18 2013, 06:58 PM

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BlackBerry Z30 is now official, runs BB10.2 out of the box

BlackBerry has just announced the Z30 - the smartphone with the largest touchscreen it has even put into production. Moreover, it's the first BlackBerry to ship with the company's latest version of BB 10 OS.

The BlackBerry Z30 is built around a 5" Super AMOLED display with a resolution of 1280 x 720 pixels. This makes the pixel density meter stop at 295 ppi. In its core, the Z30 is powered by a dual-core 1.7GHz Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset and 2GB of RAM.

Behind the battery back cover lies a 2,880mAh battery and measures 140.7 x 72 x 9.4mm. The larger battery found in the Z30 hasn't made it much thicker than the Z10 - the difference is just 0.1mm. The BlackBerry Z30 supports LTE as well as dual-band Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, Bluetooth 4.0 and NFC.

The back of the Z30 holds an 8MP camera with an f/2.2 lens and 1080p video recording capabilities. Video chatting has been taken care of with an 2MP front-facing snapper, which records 720p video.

As we mentioned, the BlackBerry Z30 runs BB 10 OS version 10.2 out of the box. It brings some improvements to the BlackBerry ecosystem including BB Priority Hub, message previews in the lockscreen as well as Wi-Fi Direct support, multiple alarms and standard Unicode emojis.

BlackBerry Q10 and Z10 users would be happy to know that the company will be launching the BB 10 version 10.2 update in mid-October. There might be some delays, which would be due to carrier approval of the update.

BlackBerry hasn't specified any pricing or availability information just yet, but the Z30 is expected to hit the UK as early as next week.

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Well, there's a thread now...fresh off the launch at The Westin this afternoon. LOL!

I hope it does well, better than the Z10.
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post Sep 18 2013, 08:21 PM

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Anyone getting it? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2013, 09:53 PM

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wow..so fast launch new one
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at this price point, yeah I'll pick one on day 1! cool2.gif

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post Sep 19 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Sep 18 2013, 06:56 PM)
BlackBerry unveils the Z30 as its new flagship smartphone

(Reuters) - BlackBerry Ltd launched its new Z30 flagship smartphone on Wednesday, as it battles to win back market share despite uncertainty around its future.

Once a pioneer in the smartphone arena, BlackBerry said last month it was weighing options that could include an outright sale, in the face of lacklustre sales for its new devices that run on the BlackBerry 10 operating system.

The long-rumored Z30 device, which is first being unveiled at an event in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, will be BlackBerry's new top-of-the-line device, taking the crown from the smaller Z10 that was launched early this year.

The new touchscreen device, which boasts a five-inch display and a 1.7 gigahertz processor, will compete against the likes of Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) new iPhone 5S and Samsung Electronics Co's (005930.KS) Galaxy S4, along with a slew of other devices that are powered by Google Inc's (GOOG.O) Android platform.

The company faces an uphill battle in generating interest in the new phone, however, given the lack of clarity around its future.

While the company has long aspired to make its BlackBerry 10 operating system the No. 3 smartphone platform in the market, the latest industry data indicates that Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Windows Phone platform is in fact more likely to clinch that spot as its devices continue to gain ground.

Although the new line of BlackBerry devices has been well received by reviewers, analysts say the company lacks the financial heft to vie against industry giants like Apple, Google, Samsung and Microsoft, which boast massive marketing and R&D budgets.

Some analysts contend that Microsoft's move earlier this month to acquire Nokia's (NOK1V.HE) phone business and license its patents for 5.44 billion euros, poses another hurdle for BlackBerry, as the software giant is likely to redouble its catch-up efforts in the mobile device business.

But Waterloo, Ontario-based BlackBerry, which is set to report its fiscal second-quarter results next week, appears to be sticking with its product roadmap for now, even as it reviews its alternatives.

The company, which touts the Z30 as its "biggest, fastest and most advanced smartphone" to date, said the device will begin to hit store shelves in the UK and parts of the Middle East as early as next week.

The smartphone will go on sale with select carriers and retailers in other regions over the remainder of the year, said the company, adding specific pricing and availability will be announced by its partners at the time of their respective launches.

(Reporting by Euan Rocha; Editing by Mark Potter)
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post Sep 20 2013, 03:15 PM

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The Z30 promotion at celcom, need to apply for contract or can just buy the device only?
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post Sep 20 2013, 05:24 PM

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Contract for the promo. cool2.gif
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post Sep 20 2013, 07:24 PM

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Ahhh I dont want contract. :\
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post Sep 26 2013, 11:59 PM

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not much love for z30?
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post Sep 27 2013, 03:23 AM

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Yeah..i think not that much now la. I remembered lastyear when I was so damn psyched waiting for Z10 to appear. Now I dont feel the same way anymore.

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QUOTE(maeve @ Sep 27 2013, 03:23 AM)
Yeah..i think not that much now la. I remembered lastyear when I was so damn psyched waiting for Z10 to appear. Now I dont feel the same way anymore.
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yeah i think cause the lack of apps. made blackberry look bad. have to sideloads.
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post Sep 30 2013, 11:06 AM

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I just bought the Z10.....with maxis..
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QUOTE(ckeng2002 @ Sep 30 2013, 11:06 AM)
I just bought the Z10.....with maxis..
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worth it or not?
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post Sep 30 2013, 08:44 PM

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lol =.= z30.....
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QUOTE(TrollNoob @ Sep 30 2013, 08:17 PM)
worth it or not?
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QUOTE(buzzfizz @ Sep 20 2013, 03:15 PM)
The Z30 promotion at celcom, need to apply for contract or can just buy the device only?
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Need contract , got free z10 and some ticket . Browse thru lowyat first page
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post Oct 3 2013, 09:00 AM

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Celcom already released the plan for Z30, sadly only for 24 months contract.. so anyone going to queue to get Z30 + Z10?

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Celcom Unveils BlackBerry Z30 Deals – Free BlackBerry Z10, Concert Tickets and More

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To be available this Saturday, 5 October 2013 at Blue Cube Sunway Pyramid and selected Celcom Xclusive outlets – Full Line Communications Sdn. Bhd in Shah Alam and Gateway Sdn. Bhd. In Wangsa Maju, all you need to do is sign up for a 24 month contract to any Celcom First Voice + Data mPro bundle plans from as low as RM128/month. The first 200 customers will also get a FREE BlackBerry Z10 LTE worth RM1,899, an Urbanears Headset worth RM340, a pair of Alicia Keys concert tickets worth RM590 and Alicia Keys’ Girl on Fire album download.

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There will be another round of fire sales for Z10 as all these 200 units will be flooded into the Lowyat for sale forum. LOL.
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[quote=namh,Oct 3 2013, 09:00 AM]
Celcom already released the plan for Z30, sadly only for 24 months contract.. so anyone going to queue to get Z30 + Z10?

Hey guys, i am going to queue for Z30 biggrin.gif Btw, i am currently MAXIS user, wonder number porting user is eligible for the Z30 first 200 promotion anot?lol
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QUOTE(istanteyip82 @ Oct 3 2013, 11:12 AM)
Hey guys, i am going to queue for Z30 biggrin.gif Btw, i am currently MAXIS user, wonder number porting user is eligible for the Z30 first 200 promotion anot?lol
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not sure on this, you can try visit or call Celcom for confirmation.. but to be safe, better you port in ASAP today so you can have peace of mind on saturday..
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QUOTE(namh @ Oct 3 2013, 11:50 AM)
not sure on this, you can try visit or call Celcom for confirmation.. but to be safe, better you port in ASAP today so you can have peace of mind on saturday..
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Thanks for the information, will try to check with Celcom later.
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Porting should be ok.
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Seems like no one interested to Z30 anymore sad.gif sob sob, i guess im the only one who going tomorrow to get Z30 only....
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QUOTE(istanteyip82 @ Oct 4 2013, 04:15 PM)
Seems like no one interested to Z30 anymore sad.gif sob sob, i guess im the only one who going tomorrow to get Z30 only....
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Congratulations.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(istanteyip82 @ Oct 4 2013, 04:15 PM)
Seems like no one interested to Z30 anymore sad.gif sob sob, i guess im the only one who going tomorrow to get Z30 only....
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good luck thumbup.gif so are you going to camp on sunway tonight whistling.gif

i want to get Z30 tomorrow too, but plan to sell and later buy Q10 flex.gif
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Finally, z30 ori stock reach ya.. Woohoo~~

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QUOTE(x132755 @ Oct 5 2013, 11:20 AM)
Finally, z30 ori stock reach ya.. Woohoo~~
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how much u sell? haha
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QUOTE(Hardwell @ Oct 5 2013, 01:05 PM)
how much u sell? haha
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QUOTE(x132755 @ Oct 5 2013, 11:20 AM)
Finally, z30 ori stock reach ya.. Woohoo~~
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Z30 warranty is 2 year? still brightstar distributor?
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Look like z10 not laku ,, till can gt free ,, heheh
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QUOTE(namh @ Oct 5 2013, 02:51 PM)
Z30 warranty is 2 year? still brightstar distributor?
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QUOTE(namh @ Oct 5 2013, 02:51 PM)
Z30 warranty is 2 year? still brightstar distributor?
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Last time 2 yr..
Now all become 1 yr d..
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QUOTE(Davatara @ Oct 5 2013, 07:39 PM)
OMG
No feedback from celcom event.
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Celcom soon
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become a happyman for Z30.

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QUOTE(firecrac @ Oct 5 2013, 10:01 PM)
become a happyman for Z30.
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Gooding or not?
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as an ex-iphone/android user, this is the first time i am on BB, the BB OS10 is simply impress me.
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reporting in for Celcom sale of Z30 yesterday smile.gif

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now Celcom have new promotion for Z30:

https://www.celcom.com.my/personal/promotio...d=1360826467841

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Here’s your chance to experience its superb multimedia on the fastest network at an exclusive price of only RM938 (RRP: RM1,998) plus an additional RM300 OFF! That's not all, these additional advantages are also yours to enjoy with your BlackBerry® Z30 purchase. Don’t miss out! Visit us at any of our participating outlets from 6 - 13 October 2013 to enjoy this unbelievable deal.


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QUOTE(namh @ Oct 3 2013, 09:00 AM)
Celcom already released the plan for Z30, sadly only for 24 months contract.. so anyone going to queue to get Z30 + Z10?

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Celcom Unveils BlackBerry Z30 Deals – Free BlackBerry Z10, Concert Tickets and More
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too much of a hassle for the promo - limited venues, add that to the 'carnival' madness crowd, i pass those up. add the contract sum to total cost mathematically, not worth it + i am hard core bb..

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Z30 still don't have a cheap case yet. In ebay have expensive official case. I think need to wait another 2 weeks or a month.
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I just bought z30 because most of people say it was easy to load android apps. Try to add Instagram since saturday...almost give up already...any lead for me??
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QUOTE(deddo @ Oct 6 2013, 03:28 PM)
Z30 still don't have a cheap case yet. In ebay have expensive official case. I think need to wait another 2 weeks or a month.
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all I can get for screen protector is custom made from note 2 haha
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Z30 still don't have a cheap case yet. In ebay have expensive official case. I think need to wait another 2 weeks or a month.
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all I can get for screen protector is custom made from note 2 haha
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QUOTE(TrollNoob @ Sep 30 2013, 08:17 PM)
worth it or not?
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Plan + 3G/4G = RM 116/month,

handset = RM 699, advance payment another RM 1,000.

To me i just need a phone, but surprisingly 4 inch is just fit into my palm.


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QUOTE(ckeng2002 @ Oct 8 2013, 09:53 AM)
Plan + 3G/4G = RM 116/month,

handset = RM 699, advance payment another RM 1,000.

To me i just need a phone, but surprisingly 4 inch is just fit into my palm.
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699 - 4" is for z10 not z30. z10 prices now ~ 1.3k LTE brightstar sets, AP and 3G sets cheaper ; telcos still keeping 1899/1799 z10 but it'll drop when z30 is out of celcom exclusivity soon.

z30 current contract pricing - still steep if u total up the cost pf ownership.

if u wanna buy, buy outright but wait few weeks, safe some $ too. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(7thsky @ Oct 8 2013, 12:23 PM)
699 - 4" is for z10 not z30. z10 prices now ~ 1.3k LTE brightstar sets, AP and 3G sets cheaper ; telcos still keeping 1899/1799 z10 but it'll drop when z30 is out of celcom exclusivity soon.

z30 current contract pricing - still  steep if u total up the cost pf ownership.

if u wanna buy, buy outright but wait few weeks, safe some $ too.  cool2.gif
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Steep or not it depends on usage. If you have such need for the plan to suit your usage, then it will be worth it.
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then again a lot of BB users back then on unlimited BB plan tether like mad.
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QUOTE(santacruz @ Oct 8 2013, 01:16 AM)
I just bought z30 because most of people say it was easy to load android apps. Try to add Instagram since saturday...almost give up already...any lead for me??
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hye bro full tutorial for sideload android apps here HowToSideLoad from BBUGMY

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wonderful battery life !
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QUOTE(namh @ Oct 6 2013, 01:09 PM)
are they getting rid of Z10 sweat.gif
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in a way yes, they are marking down Z10s for really cheap.

IF they are selling Z10s for 1.3K (LTE set), I wonder if Q5 will be marked down too?

Now I'm having a headache whether to go for a Z10 for RM1.3k (if this is true) vs RM1998 for a z30.

The reasoning? I would prefer z30 since its the latest phone, but the z10 seems fair for a 'budget'.

And I'll probably get the 3G version since LTE is non-existant outside of Klang Valley.
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QUOTE(Ji3MOON @ Oct 12 2013, 02:48 PM)
hye bro full tutorial for sideload android apps here HowToSideLoad from BBUGMY

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tq...before this i try to sideload using chrome extension...will definitely try on this method...will update the result here biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 13 2013, 10:24 PM)
in a way yes, they are marking down Z10s for really cheap.

IF they are selling Z10s for 1.3K (LTE set), I wonder if Q5 will be marked down too?

Now I'm having a headache whether to go for a Z10 for RM1.3k (if this is true) vs RM1998 for a z30.

The reasoning? I would prefer z30 since its the latest phone, but the z10 seems fair for a 'budget'.

And I'll probably get the 3G version since LTE is non-existant outside of Klang Valley.
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let me know if u getting Z10 LTE, as i still holding one on hand. brand new set
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QUOTE(firecrac @ Oct 15 2013, 06:01 PM)
let me know if u getting Z10 LTE, as i still holding one on hand. brand new set
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I will let you know, thanks for the offer. But just from me, sell it to others if you can find a faster offer hahaha
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QUOTE(Tontoto @ Oct 15 2013, 08:36 PM)
Wait a few weeks more.  Price will drop like stone sinking in river.
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I'll be happy if that happens. But then BlackBerry devices in Malaysia historically have very strong price retention, even for second hand phones.
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post Oct 16 2013, 04:39 AM

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Sell it at an RRP of RM1499, and BB will surely come back on track
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Oct 16 2013, 05:39 AM)
Sell it at an RRP of RM1499, and BB will surely come back on track
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They can't. Their margins on the z30 is less than 20%, so if you're pricing that they're losing at least 10-15% (including transportation and warehousing charges), and it goes negative margins. Not at least on the first batch I suppose.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 16 2013, 11:10 AM)
They can't. Their margins on the z30 is less than 20%, so if you're pricing that they're losing at least 10-15% (including transportation and warehousing charges), and it goes negative margins. Not at least on the first batch I suppose.
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Nahh, I'm saying in terms of specs if compared to Android devices. Dual-core and everything at RM1998? Most people will think it doesn't worth to give it a try because BB isn't as valuable as it was before
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Oct 16 2013, 07:50 PM)
Nahh, I'm saying in terms of specs if compared to Android devices. Dual-core and everything at RM1998? Most people will think it doesn't worth to give it a try because BB isn't as valuable as it was before
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Considering the one closest to Z30 is the Moto X (then again Moto X has a dual core CPU, quad core GPU, and 2 extra independent core meant for speech processing and something else), the price difference about the two isn't that great, with exception that the MOTO X should be more 'worth it' on paper, since you can customize a lot of things about it.

But the Z10 is awfully priced. The Q5? Not so much, though like many I hoped it being a sub RM1000 device launched off the bat.


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I have a Z10 LTE. Still like using it. To be honest, the only thing great abt the Z30 (when compared to Z10) is the batt life. The screen size increase not that much. Plus, its ugly. Is the black/silver combo the only colour available? I thought ive seen on the internet (think it was at the HK BB event recently) that they showed an all white Z30. Now that one is really nice. Any news on this whitey Z30?
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 16 2013, 07:32 PM)
Considering the one closest to Z30 is the Moto X (then again Moto X has a dual core CPU, quad core GPU, and 2 extra independent core meant for speech processing and something else), the price difference about the two isn't that great, with exception that the MOTO X should be more 'worth it' on paper, since you can customize a lot of things about it.

But the Z10 is awfully priced. The Q5? Not so much, though like many I hoped it being a sub RM1000 device launched off the bat.
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Moto X is wayyy more valuable than Z30 wink.gif But still, Z30's price has to be RM1499
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Oct 22 2013, 05:13 PM)
Moto X is wayyy more valuable than Z30 wink.gif  But still, Z30's price has to be RM1499
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1500? yeah, on contract yes. But I'll never give up my old contract, so I'll rather buy the z30 unlocked.

But hey, there are always other phones that are ridiculously overpriced. More than a BlackBerry.

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1500? yeah, on contract yes. But I'll never give up my old contract, so I'll rather buy the z30 unlocked.

But hey, there are always other phones that are ridiculously overpriced. More than a BlackBerry.
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On contract? I believe most telco will offer RM699 with contact, bro

Nope. So far, I can only think of Apple and BB's products. Even Nokia has learned how to price their products accordingly
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Oct 23 2013, 03:27 AM)
On contract? I believe most telco will offer RM699 with contact, bro

Nope. So far, I can only think of Apple and BB's products. Even Nokia has learned how to price their products accordingly
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All other OEMs for Android, with exception of Google, runs on economy of scale. Especially the fact that the core OS itself doesn't need much R&D, since Google has done most of the heavy lifting for them. Not to say that they don't have costs, just not as high as how Google has to pay.

On the other hand, Google doesn't need to sell their Nexus with profit. They sell it with near-zero margin. Where does Google earn their money? By profiling users. Ads, profiles, etc.

BlackBerry sells I think less than 3M BB10 per quarter, and from their quarter reports, from January indicates that they have produced about (that's assuming 90 days is considered a quarter, give and take). Therefore BlackBerry does not enjoy the economy of scale to mass produce even the low end on low prices)

About Nokia, sure, they got MS's backing. That's equivalent of an Amex Black Card. But oh wait, despite relying on MS, they got sold to be a part of MS (Nokia is now only a services company). Cheap phones? Tick. Good build? Tick. But sold, to Nokia, by their own "ex microsoft" guy Stephen 'Trojan Horse' Elop. MS has been dumping money into WP, ever since, what, early 2000? And alot has happned, but things could have been better for Nokia, instead they went full "exclusive" with Windows Phones, and got themselves sold. What a waste.

I don't think BlackBerry can lower their price point at this stage even if they wanted to. With recent news of their hardware partners unable to produce due to low demand, I think if BlackBerry wants to achieve the economy of scale with or without profit they'll need to

a) dump the phones at loss (and this is difficult because they don't have the cash cow to milk in the form of BIS, BES? Yes, but no more BIS)

b) elect or partner with new hardware vendor that can meet up with BlackBerry's super strict QA on security (they have some very strict QA on their products in their factories, its a well known fact) yet achieve the economy of scale.

c) make deals with Qualcomm so that they won't lose out being first partners. Or, jump to Intel? (In the past the deal with TI-OMAP used to be very good, until TI-OMAP suddenly reversed its decision and abandoned the SoC market, and decided to only focus on the embedded chipset market, much to the chagrin of BlackBerry (where they have to re-code the entire thing from scratch)
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saw this full page advertisement on The Star today.. It stated terms and conditions apply but nothing to read further to know what the terms is.. anyone have more info on this?

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I want to know too.

QUOTE(namh @ Oct 24 2013, 11:59 AM)
saw this full page advertisement on The Star today.. It stated terms and conditions apply but nothing to read further to know what the terms is.. anyone have more info on this?

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i believe that is the contract you need to tie up with telco.
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which telco?

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which telco?

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i believe that is the contract you need to tie up with telco.
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i check with Celcom, they dont have any promo like this.. their contract plan is stated as the website..
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saw this full page advertisement on The Star today.. It stated terms and conditions apply but nothing to read further to know what the terms is.. anyone have more info on this?

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I'm thinking, it's from BB?
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Hiii.. proud user of z30 here!
Hehe. Love the battery endurance.

But, my data quota drain way too fast!!
I'm Still using BlackBerry monthly data for rm25 (250mb)
Do I need to upgrade my data? Bcoz I saw celcom offer 5gb data for z30.
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QUOTE(killer_mistake @ Oct 30 2013, 01:25 AM)
Hiii.. proud user of z30 here!
Hehe. Love the battery endurance.

But, my data quota drain way too fast!!
I'm Still using BlackBerry monthly data for rm25 (250mb)
Do I need to upgrade my data? Bcoz I saw celcom offer 5gb data for z30.
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disable discontinue BIS subscription, and use normal data plan.
BIS is useless on BB10 devices. BB10 devices doesn't even use BlackBerry.net APN anymore.

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low price with high spec and bigger screen should be good for blackberry.. and i think only bb follower can feel it..
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This Z30 thread is so quiet.

Guess the device is overpriced for its dual core processor.

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QUOTE(ferchang @ Jan 2 2014, 09:44 AM)
This Z30 thread is so quiet.

Guess the device is overpriced for its dual core processor.
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If you compare it with Moto X, yeah.

But for the fact that its one of the phones that can piggyback BB10 and Android OS, its quite the bargain actually.
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i saw this in net and thinking if i should get this special color rose gold samsung note 3 for my mum...
it is her birthday next week. and also it has free casing worth RM 189 if get this unit.
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Hi, I'm thinking to get a Z30. Getting f**king fed up with my S3. Is the phone ok? I'm not too worry about lack of apps, as long as the essential ones are in place.

I don't really use Instagram.

Appreciate if you guys can gimme a feedback on Z30 and what's the best place to get one. Thx.

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Feb 18 2014, 11:58 AM)
Hi, I'm thinking to get a Z30. Getting f**king fed up with my S3. Is the phone ok? I'm not too worry about lack of apps, as long as the essential ones are in place.

I don't really use Instagram.

Appreciate if you guys can gimme a feedback on Z30 and what's the best place to get one. Thx.
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The Z30 is an exceptionally well done phone. I own a Z10 and I think you'll enjoy the z30 better. It has specs that is near similar to Motorola X.

But what makes the Z30 very special is that the hardware changes (small, but plenty of changes) compared to the z10 will make it worthwhile.

If you're like me, using DiGi, you'll be on 10.2.1. This means you can directly install APKs. However, to make things easy, go and download SNAP (the .BAR file) and install it. It is a front (made by 3rd party) for Google Apps, and frankly you'll be amazed.

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I'm on Maxis. Surfed Maxis' website but I think they discontinued selling BB! Can't see the BB in their devices offered.

Any idea what's the selling price of Z30?
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Feb 19 2014, 12:36 PM)
I'm on Maxis. Surfed Maxis' website but I think they discontinued selling BB! Can't see the BB in their devices offered.

Any idea what's the selling price of Z30?
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Hovering at RM1700-1800. Maybe lower.
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I'm on Maxis. Surfed Maxis' website but I think they discontinued selling BB! Can't see the BB in their devices offered.

Any idea what's the selling price of Z30?
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New : RM1,799 only. LowYat.Net
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New : RM1,799 only. LowYat.Net
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Directd is selling it now for rm1555 with Brightpoint 24 months warranty
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Directd is selling it now for rm1555 with Brightpoint 24 months warranty
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What's the difference between brightstar and brightpoint?
What implication would there be with BB device?
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What's the difference between brightstar and brightpoint?
What implication would there be with BB device?
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Both are authorized Blackberry dealers in Malaysia ; it is safe to get sets from them as both are listed in Blackberry site
Don't understand your question " implication" ???? It really doesn't matter where you get your Blackberry - you still need to sign up a Blackberry service with your telco to use BIS. And the telcos couldn't be bother the source of your sets
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eh z30 and z10 don't use BIS anymore.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Feb 26 2014, 08:12 PM)
Both are authorized Blackberry dealers in Malaysia ; it is safe to get sets from them as both are listed in Blackberry site
Don't understand your question " implication" ???? It really doesn't matter where you get your Blackberry - you still need to sign up a Blackberry service with your telco to use BIS. And the telcos couldn't be bother the source of your sets
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Why 2 companies as distributors?
Logic is AP set cannot claim ori warranty.
So if I get device from B-star I cannot get warranty for B-point?

Both also surname: Bright. Abang adik ?
If memory serves me, Brightstar bosses consist of 3 brothers.

QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Feb 26 2014, 08:22 PM)
eh z30 and z10 don't use BIS anymore.
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I did not state clearly so he didn't know, I'm looking for z10 BB OS10.2
You know me better rclxms.gif

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LOL. here I thought takkan you lupa. Heck.

By the way, just make sure double check that its not STL-100-1. Mine is STL-100-1, (no LTE) and for some reason DiGi's signal keep dropping (can see the BB icon, but no data transfer LOL)

maybe isolated case.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Feb 26 2014, 10:20 PM)
LOL. here I thought takkan you lupa. Heck.

By the way, just make sure double check that its not STL-100-1. Mine is STL-100-1, (no LTE) and for some reason DiGi's signal keep dropping (can see the BB icon, but no data transfer LOL)

maybe isolated case.
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I saw on youtube that the inside sim and micro SD slot is located differently between the 3G and LTE.
LTE sim is by the battery and SD is higher by the top.

I did notice some box do not have the Bightstar logo.
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anyone selling their z30? =)
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I've a slight problem with my Z30.
In times when I restart my phone, it gets hang on the boot up screen (the square BB loading logo). It has been loaded up 100% when I long press on the logo, however it does not go into the main menu screen like what we see normally.
I've to try my lucky for several times (more than 10 times, restarting it) only then it will boot up normally.
Did give it a clean wipe, but this particular software problem keeps occurring.
I'm on the latest 10.2.1.2102 OS.

Any Sifus could verify this matter?

Greatly appreciated.

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i had this issue with my Z10 (OS - 10.2.1.1925)...
try to disable your SIM card PIN and just maintain your device password
this should make your boot up process back to normal
hope this helps
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i had this issue with my Z10 (OS - 10.2.1.1925)...
try to disable your SIM card PIN and just maintain your device password
this should make your boot up process back to normal
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wanna ask, is Z30 can be use with Celcom xpax MI38 plan? for internet...
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wanna ask, is Z30 can be use with Celcom xpax MI38 plan? for internet...
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It doesn't matter what data plans & packages you are in, BB models like the Q5, Q10, Z10, Z30 are not longer locked with the BB Plan.
You can use any data plans out there to get yourself hook up with the internet using a Blackberry that runs on OS10 and above.
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QUOTE(jaymzcwk @ Mar 12 2014, 10:55 AM)
It doesn't  matter what data plans & packages you are in, BB models like the Q5, Q10, Z10, Z30 are not longer locked with the BB Plan.
You can use any data plans out there to get yourself hook up with the internet using a Blackberry that runs on OS10 and above.
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Any Sifus here has well suggestions on how to remove a stuck sim card in a Z30.
I was on a Nano Sim, plugged it in a Micro SIM Adapter, pushed it in, n got stuck in there ever since (darn tight i becha!) , guess the Micro SIM Adapter was too thick.

Am afraid I would break those gold flints that detact the sim card (happen once to my 9900, and cost me RM400 to repair it at Wisma Kemajuan Brightstar HQ.

Please advice.
Many thanks!
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anyone here upgraded to Z30 from Z10 ?

considering to upgrade.. any views would be nice : )
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anyone here upgraded to Z30 from Z10 ?

considering to upgrade.. any views would be nice : )
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Yes. Worth it. More screen space for everything. In Hub, Whats app, email. Keyboard easier to hit. Active frames still limited to 4 frames but everything is easier to read. Swiping can be a bit tricky at first because have to swipe more to get the same effect (especially unlocking the device). But a day or two and back to normal.

The downside (depending on how you look at it), is being unable to find any form of case for the device. Incipio doesn't have feather cases which I used for my Z10. So running the device naked, which interestingly isn't too bad.
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What's the retail price for Z10, Z30 and Q10? Thinking of stocking up a couple of high-end BB10 devices (as backup devices) before they disappear from the market.

Seeing as how Blackberry doesn't have high end BB10 devices in the pipeline.
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QUOTE(zizoo9876 @ May 11 2014, 11:25 AM)
The downside (depending on how you look at it), is being unable to find any form of case for the device. Incipio doesn't have feather cases which I used for my Z10. So running the device naked, which interestingly isn't too bad.
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Nokia MS strategy is different.
All other OEMs for Android, with exception of Google, runs on economy of scale. Especially the fact that the core OS itself doesn't need much R&D, since Google has done most of the heavy lifting for them. Not to say that they don't have costs, just not as high as how Google has to pay.

On the other hand, Google doesn't need to sell their Nexus with profit. They sell it with near-zero margin. Where does Google earn their money? By profiling users. Ads, profiles, etc.

BlackBerry sells I think less than 3M BB10 per quarter, and from their quarter reports, from January indicates that they have produced about  (that's assuming 90 days is considered a quarter, give and take). Therefore BlackBerry does not enjoy the economy of scale to mass produce even the low end on low prices)

I don't think BlackBerry can lower their price point at this stage even if they wanted to. With recent news of their hardware partners unable to produce due to low demand, I think if BlackBerry wants to achieve the economy of scale with or without profit they'll need to

b) elect or partner with new hardware vendor that can meet up with BlackBerry's super strict QA on security (they have some very strict QA on their products in their factories, its a well known fact) yet achieve the economy of scale.

c) make deals with Qualcomm so that they won't lose out being first partners. Or, jump to Intel? (In the past the deal with TI-OMAP used to be very good, until TI-OMAP suddenly reversed its decision and abandoned the SoC market, and decided to only focus on the embedded chipset market, much to the chagrin of BlackBerry (where they have to re-code the entire thing from scratch)
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jan 2 2014, 07:36 PM)
If you compare it with Moto X, yeah.

But for the fact that its one of the phones that can piggyback BB10 and Android OS, its quite the bargain actually.
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you, sir, are a lord in explaining all these technicalities notworthy.gif I've always felt the same, but couldn't really explain to my friends how and why I'm so adamant on loving and choosing BB over other OSs, especially Android. now I can easily explain to them why it's so worth buying the 'overpriced' BBs compared to other Android devices, especially on the privacy part! Kudos! rclxm9.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(m3darkid @ May 13 2014, 03:21 AM)
you, sir, are a lord in explaining all these technicalities  notworthy.gif  I've always felt the same, but couldn't really explain to my friends how and why I'm so adamant on loving and choosing BB over other OSs, especially Android. now I can easily explain to them why it's so worth buying the 'overpriced' BBs compared to other Android devices, especially on the privacy part! Kudos!  rclxm9.gif  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
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You know, both of the quotes are already, very outdated.
(Yes, I realize that you quoted my words)

The answer to first quote.
===> FOXCONN (LOL!)


To the second quote:
The Z30 is very powerful. Dual core processor + quad core GPU with 2GB of RAM = smoothness. It won't be faster than any other Android phones. But it will be SMOOTH. The 10.2.1 Android runtime update is good enough. Think of it as Nokia X. But it can do better than Nokia X's silly implementation of redirecting services to Microsoft services. But that's another story.



But the best way to explain the BlackBerry experience is that... "its an acquired taste". I don't drink alcohol, but I think those who do can really understand this term.
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Three reasons why BB10 is really good.
1) Blackberry Hub is simply the most efficient and effective communications manager.
2) Has very good multi-tasking implementation. The "cards" are running apps. But they are also widgets that updates and presents information.
3) Swipe gestures are the way forward. Its weird at first, but once you're used to it, its hard not to appreciate how effective swiping is compared to pressing buttons.

Four reasons why people don't like BB10.
1) When they think communications they think apps. Everything is app based. E-mail is app 1, SMS is app 2, Whatsapp is app 3, etc. So they don't see the reason for the Blackberry Hub.
2) They see Blackberry Hub and they think notifications. But in reality not comparable.
3) They see multi-tasking and they think press a button to see running apps.
4) Lack of apps. But if you use a BB10 device having 100 apps installed probably not on the agenda.
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Pretty quiet for a flagship..
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QUOTE(seui @ May 17 2014, 11:15 PM)
Pretty quiet for a flagship..
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hi..anybody want to trade their Z30 with my motox xt1058, or sell to me? please pm ur offer..

you may refer my siggy below..thanks ahh..

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QUOTE(beta9x @ May 12 2014, 09:13 AM)
yeah its quite difficult to find a case for Z30 especially a flip case. I only manage to find bumper case in Lowyat
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That bumper is smexy! Do you mind sharing the link? I can't seem to find the thread you're talking about.. hmm.

QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ May 13 2014, 08:56 AM)
You know, both of the quotes are already, very outdated.
(Yes, I realize that you quoted my words)

The answer to first quote.
===> FOXCONN (LOL!)
To the second quote:
The Z30 is very powerful. Dual core processor + quad core GPU with 2GB of RAM = smoothness. It won't be faster than any other Android phones. But it will be SMOOTH. The 10.2.1 Android runtime update is good enough. Think of it as Nokia X. But it can do better than Nokia X's silly implementation of redirecting services to Microsoft services. But that's another story.
But the best way to explain the BlackBerry experience is that... "its an acquired taste". I don't drink alcohol, but I think those who do can really understand this term.
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I got one finally sir, all thanks to you! And yes, it is very powerful! I especially like the auto correct ability after some time of usage-- very precise. But is it normal for the keyboard lagging to key in my words or is it that I type too fast? Cause I checked running apps and all but all other aspects when it happens but the phone seems to run very smoothly other than the input while I'm typing.

QUOTE(zizoo9876 @ May 13 2014, 05:44 PM)
Three reasons why BB10 is really good.
1) Blackberry Hub is simply the most efficient and effective communications manager.
2) Has very good multi-tasking implementation. The "cards" are running apps. But they are also widgets that updates and presents information.
3) Swipe gestures are the way forward. Its weird at first, but once you're used to it, its hard not to appreciate how effective swiping is compared to pressing buttons.

4) Lack of apps. But if you use a BB10 device having 100 apps installed probably not on the agenda.
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Super true. My sister played with my Z30 and she kept swiping up and around on her S4 later on, and got frustrated on that too,ha! She's also starting to "jokingly" hinting of how I should pass her my Z10 or my Z30. As if! Anyone who lets go of their z30 is.. Uhm, rare, I guess. I also find it harder to use back button and such when I'm already too used with dancing my fingers up and around between apps. Also, I don't need too much apps. Those I need are already in BlackBerry World and the few extra from android I can easily side/download with the Web browser. I never used that much plethora of apps even on android anyways.

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That bumper is smexy! Do you mind sharing the link? I can't seem to find the thread you're talking about.. hmm.
I'm not buying from Lowyat.net but from Lowyat Plaza, Bukit Bintang KL
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I'm not buying from Lowyat.net but from Lowyat Plaza, Bukit Bintang KL
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Ohh no wonder, that makes sense. Thanks a lot anyway! smile.gif
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may i know the current market value of used Z30?
plan to trade with my moto x / buy it
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may i know the current market value of used Z30?
plan to trade with my moto x / buy it
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I think should be around 900++, depending on where or shop you can find but can see here rarely people sell their Z30, I guess most of them love it brows.gif

If you don't really use your motor x, I suggest you trade in. Might save you some money. The camera might benefit from a better performance, but overall the jump I made from android to BlackBerry OS is really worth it. I hope this helps a little. smile.gif
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QUOTE(m3darkid @ Jun 4 2014, 09:00 PM)
I think should be around 900++, depending on where or shop you can find but can see here rarely people sell their Z30, I guess most of them love it brows.gif

If you don't really use your motor x, I suggest you trade in. Might save you some money. The camera might benefit from a better performance, but overall the jump I made from android to BlackBerry OS is really worth it. I hope this helps a little. smile.gif
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i used z10, then after jahanam already, i jumped to moto x..
now want bb10 back again with bigger screen..
miss the hub tongue.gif

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QUOTE(budakmaran @ Jun 4 2014, 09:08 PM)
i used z10, then after jahanam already, i jumped to moto x..
now want bb10 back again with bigger screen..
miss the hub tongue.gif
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Ah, I understand your feeling. The new OS is so much better with Z30 bigger screen. And the hub is such a blessing. After using BlackBerry 10 android might seem a little crowded for me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(budakmaran @ Jun 4 2014, 09:08 PM)
i used z10, then after jahanam already, i jumped to moto x..
now want bb10 back again with bigger screen..
miss the hub tongue.gif
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i know what you mean bro, made the jump from Android, can't go back anytime soon icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Cryptic @ Jun 4 2014, 11:02 PM)
i know what you mean bro, made the jump from Android, can't go back anytime soon  icon_idea.gif
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yup.. thumbup.gif
now keep f5 garage sales and mudah.my..so hard to find one under 900..

saw my friend's z10, dammit..i want the hub back!.. icon_question.gif

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hi.. ex bb user here.. now thinking to buy new bb as my 2nd phone.. but cant decide z10 or z30.. or q10?.. really miss my bb..
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Depends on what you miss from BB - the physical keyboard? In that case then the Q devices would be for you.

If you miss the kick-ass email handling capabilities but like to have a big screen then any of the Z devices would do.

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QUOTE(sah147 @ Jun 5 2014, 11:34 AM)
Depends on what you miss from BB - the physical keyboard? In that case then the Q devices would be for you.

If you miss the kick-ass email handling capabilities but like to have a big screen then any of the Z devices would do.
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my previous BB no physical keyboard.. maybe i miss the surfing/browsing experiences... nothing can beat BB, seriously..

somemore, even with 256mb quota, i download movie or everything on net but i never used more than 5mb/month..
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QUOTE(PruneFace @ Jun 5 2014, 01:56 PM)
my previous BB no physical keyboard.. maybe i miss the surfing/browsing experiences... nothing can beat BB, seriously..

somemore, even with 256mb quota, i download movie or everything on net but i never used more than 5mb/month..
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BB OS 10 did not support bis package..
so if you download movie using bb10, it will drain your data..
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BB OS 10 did not support bis package..
so if you download movie using bb10, it will drain your data..
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seriously not support BIS? doh.gif i need to reconsider..
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seriously not support BIS?  doh.gif i need to reconsider..
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For what i read, sure cant support..even you subscribe the bis, it will eat your data like normal plan..no data compressing bla bla bla..

but maybe otai2 got trick..
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QUOTE(m3darkid @ Jun 2 2014, 09:52 PM)
That bumper is smexy! Do you mind sharing the link? I can't seem to find the thread you're talking about.. hmm.
I got one finally sir, all thanks to you! And yes, it is very powerful! I especially like the auto correct ability after some time of usage-- very precise. But is it normal for the keyboard lagging to key in my words or is it that I type too fast? Cause I checked running apps and all but all other aspects when it happens but the phone seems to run very smoothly other than the input while I'm typing.
Super true. My sister played with my Z30 and she kept swiping up and around on her S4 later on, and got frustrated on that too,ha! She's also starting to "jokingly" hinting of how I should pass her my Z10 or my Z30. As if! Anyone who lets go of their z30 is.. Uhm, rare, I guess. I also find it harder to use back button and such when I'm already too used with dancing my fingers up and around between apps. Also, I don't need too much apps. Those I need are already in BlackBerry World and the few extra from android I can easily side/download with the Web browser. I never used that much plethora of apps even on android anyways.
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On the lag when typing, I suspect its the processor not giving the OS enough power. If you just switched in from another platform (as in the phone's new, and you just jammed in everything you could find on the blackberry world + snap (google play) and all the contacts sync, etc... You may need to give it a few days, probably more if you're a super heavy user, for the OS to settle down. This is often true after OS updates / new OS installs.

The latest OS 10.2.1.3175 would eliminate this (the so called keyboad lag), because its tuned to give more processing power on all apps.
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QUOTE(PruneFace @ Jun 5 2014, 02:56 PM)
my previous BB no physical keyboard.. maybe i miss the surfing/browsing experiences... nothing can beat BB, seriously..

somemore, even with 256mb quota, i download movie or everything on net but i never used more than 5mb/month..
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You know, if you can really do that, I'm surprised. because if you can do that, that means you've just done something BIS was not invented for.
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QUOTE(budakmaran @ Jun 5 2014, 08:59 PM)
For what i read, sure cant support..even you subscribe the bis, it will eat your data like normal plan..no data compressing bla bla bla..

but maybe otai2 got trick..
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yeah maybe sifu2 here got trick.. will check on it..



QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jun 5 2014, 09:03 PM)
You know, if you can really do that, I'm surprised. because if you can do that, that means you've just done something BIS was not invented for.
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u mean, all usage data will count using BIS? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(PruneFace @ Jun 6 2014, 08:27 AM)
yeah maybe sifu2 here got trick.. will check on it..
u mean, all usage data will count using BIS?  hmm.gif
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No. erm.. how should i Put it.


like this:


phone ---through BIS----> BlackBerry NOC -----internet-----> SERVER ----through internet--> BlackBerry NOC----through BIS----> phone


That's the picture I want you to understand.


Normal phones just connect to the internet. No BIS, no NOC. No security, no compression.



In your case, the video you downloaded should be charged under your data usage, BIS or not. However, that did not happened. For example:

100mb video that goes through BIS = 95mb in size (compressed, but only smaller)
100mb video that goes through normal internet = 100mb in size.



In your case, you claimed that your usage is 256mb per month. But after downloading a lot, you only used 5MB.
That's a lot of savings, and that wasn't what BIS was designed for.

That is why I'm surprised.

Is it an old BIS plan?
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No. erm.. how should i Put it.
like this:
phone ---through BIS----> BlackBerry NOC -----internet-----> SERVER ----through internet--> BlackBerry NOC----through BIS----> phone
That's the picture I want you to understand.
Normal phones just connect to the internet. No BIS, no NOC. No security, no compression.
In your case, the video you downloaded should be charged under your data usage, BIS or not. However, that did not happened. For example:

100mb video that goes through BIS = 95mb in size (compressed, but only smaller)
100mb video that goes through normal internet = 100mb in size.
In your case, you claimed that your usage is 256mb per month. But after downloading a lot, you only used 5MB.
That's a lot of savings, and that wasn't what BIS was designed for.

That is why I'm surprised.

Is it an old BIS plan?
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wow.. now only i know what BIS is.. hahaha

my last BIS subscription was dec 2013.. im using celcom RM25/month.. i notice my data will reduce when i stream youtube.. other than that, my data will remain the same..

p/s im prepaid user

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On the lag when typing, I suspect its the processor not giving the OS enough power. If you just switched in from another platform (as in the phone's new, and you just jammed in everything you could find on the blackberry world + snap (google play) and all the contacts sync, etc... You may need to give it a few days, probably more if you're a super heavy user, for the OS to settle down. This is often true after OS updates / new OS installs.

The latest OS 10.2.1.3175 would eliminate this (the so called keyboad lag), because its tuned to give more processing power on all apps.
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Perhaps that. But I dig around Crackberry and heard that it's some kind of a keyboard bug or something.. I don't know which is true but .3175 does smoothen things a bit. I'm not really a heavy user, just continuous browsing and only have instagram and another 2/3 android apps sideloaded but never opened at the same time.

Being on bb10 OS really is amazing. Sometimes I'm tempted by the new android phones (coughs at LG G Pro 2 / LG G3) but then thinks hey, why chase specs when I can have a perfectly smooth phone with amazing battery life with BB10 device I have now? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PruneFace @ Jun 6 2014, 11:02 AM)
wow.. now only i know what BIS is.. hahaha

my last BIS subscription was dec 2013.. im using celcom RM25/month.. i notice my data will reduce when i stream youtube.. other than that, my data will remain the same..

p/s im prepaid user
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I get your point. I had lots of friends who just took the 25/month plan and use their Blackberry's for everything- communicate, stream, tether. Turns out even if over limit they just slow it down a bit. Perfect plan for students eh brows.gif and then they just buy small android phones for instagram etc using wifi.
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QUOTE(m3darkid @ Jun 6 2014, 09:10 PM)
I get your point. I had lots of friends who just took the 25/month plan and use their Blackberry's for everything- communicate, stream, tether. Turns out even if over limit they just slow it down a bit. Perfect plan for students eh  brows.gif and then they just buy small android phones for instagram etc using wifi.
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Obviously yes.. Two smartphone in hand doesnt mean we need two broadband package.. Unless use dual sim smartphone..
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now got z30..
im coming the hub.. rclxm9.gif
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now got z30..
im coming the hub.. rclxm9.gif
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have you updated to latest OS?

and have you tried SNAP? (its for Android apps)

how's your Z30 treating you?
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How much is a new Z30? Thinking of getting a backup unit.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jun 15 2014, 12:37 AM)
have you updated to latest OS?

and have you tried SNAP? (its for Android apps)

how's your Z30 treating you?
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Yeahh updated to 10.2.1.xxxx..

Snap not yet..currently outside...showing around my friends..hahahaha

My friend test and said the voice call is really clear than his htc..
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How much is a new Z30? Thinking of getting a backup unit.
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Around 1300..

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QUOTE(budakmaran @ Jun 15 2014, 11:52 AM)
Yeahh updated to 10.2.1.xxxx..

Snap not yet..currently outside...showing around my friends..hahahaha

My friend test and said the voice call is really clear than his htc..
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Ooh showing around, I like that. Their reaction really differs than when you whip out Android phones, right? brows.gif

My Z30 can connects to my house wifi where my xperia Z or my sister's S4 can't. Kinda cool, really.
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What's the best price for Z30? Where to get? I'm tired of my S3. Super dumb for a smartphone.
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What's the best price for Z30? Where to get? I'm tired of my S3. Super dumb for a smartphone.
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You can try IPMART , its sold at RM1350.

That's the 'benchmark'. You may find cheaper sets.
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Have anyone seen the new Passport and Classic? I love my Z30, but considering I'm typing so much on my phone, the wide Passport might feel a little bit more comfortable to hold while typing! drool.gif I am so eyeing Passport!

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QUOTE(m3darkid @ Jun 20 2014, 02:40 AM)
Have anyone seen the new Passport and Classic? I love my Z30, but considering I'm typing so much on my phone, the wide Passport might feel a little bit more comfortable to hold while typing! drool.gif I am so eyeing Passport!

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I heard the keyboard is touch sensitive, no idea how is that going to work rclxub.gif
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download snap.., and your blackberry experience will become wild! wild as in wild partyyy!! smile.gif

i got snap last month.. and have been smiling ever since.! it's very easy.. get the step from crackberry... just use the chrome extension.. load snap.! voila..!

now you can use - maybank2u.., book cinema ticket using gsc.., MAS ticket, get access to lowyat.net forum directly! smile.gif .. and all other ebanking and mobile stockbroking from your z30.!

best of all.. you don't feel any slowness at all!

the more reason.. why z30 is great phone.! battery last 1.5days..

happy with my Z30., infact bought 2-3 more for family members to be on same device!

now planning to upgrade to 10.3


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QUOTE(Cryptic @ Jun 20 2014, 11:09 AM)
I heard the keyboard is touch sensitive, no idea how is that going to work  rclxub.gif
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For space bar usage, I think it would be be okay as a key. I read it's swipe left or something for more elaborate symbols to pop up on screen, it might be fun added to the physical keyboard what with rumours that emojis are coming and we can do more than just a simple ; ) on a physical keyboard right? brows.gif

On a side note to keep to Z30 topic, anybody know how we can add symbols/emoji directly to BlackBerry keyboard on Z30 like those android Go keyboard one?

QUOTE(morpheuzneo @ Jun 20 2014, 11:20 AM)
download snap.., and your blackberry experience will become wild! wild as in wild partyyy!! smile.gif

i got snap last month.. and have been smiling ever since.! it's very easy.. get the step from crackberry... just use the chrome extension.. load snap.! voila..!

now you can use - maybank2u.., book cinema ticket using gsc.., MAS ticket, get access to lowyat.net forum directly! smile.gif .. and all other ebanking and mobile stockbroking from your z30.!

best of all.. you don't feel any slowness at all!

the more reason.. why z30 is great phone.! battery last 1.5days..

happy with my Z30., infact bought 2-3 more for family members to be on same device!

now planning to upgrade to 10.3
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True, I side loaded Snap and went on a crazy downloading galore on games but ending up deleting them again and leaving the fun ones biggrin.gif the battery is amazing, right? I used mobile data like crazy on weekend cause got bored and the battery lasts a little more than a day!

But buying several for others, that's the best man! Share the BlackBerry awesomeness ahead! Salute!

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Snap is actually an app or a software? Sorry for asking dumb questions. But from forum, every1 is so raving about Snap.
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Snap is actually an app or a software? Sorry for asking dumb questions. But from forum, every1 is so raving about Snap.
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SNAP, is an app, that essentially is a third party made front for Google Playstore. What it does is that, it asks you for your Google ID and password, and it will log in as you, to Google Playstore. Essentially, you are technically browsing Google Playstore, since you can run .APK files, but you cannot run Google Services.


In a few months time, this may be moot since BlackBerry is now partnering with Amazon for APK.

If you're unsure of what on earth is going on, go and read up here,

http://utbblogs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=573

It will give some clues.

But essentially:


1. Consumer apps are now readily available via APK, via Amazon App store. (which should be a win).
2. Users who are locked on to native Cascades (especially if its controlled and fully locked down via BES 10/BES 12) will continue to enjoy apps that are already there (native, no port) from BlackBerry World.

BlackBerry will essentially be dealing with multiple vendors, with 2 app ecosystems, native Cascade BlackBerry 10, and Amazon services.
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So basically it's like 1 phone, 1 OS with 2 ecosystem?

WOW!
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jun 21 2014, 12:48 AM)
So basically it's like 1 phone, 1 OS with 2 ecosystem?

WOW!
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This is correct.
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Yes WOW! .. 1 phone.. 2 ecosystem.., security and stability - go find bbworld apps..., for variety..open snap and browse through tons of nice apps.

I haven't finish trying apps on google play..

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have anyone here manage to fixed the google play and google services dependency?

i wanted to try UBER apps...., and other maps dependent apps. tried to follow guide on crackberry.. but got lost..
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QUOTE(morpheuzneo @ Jun 22 2014, 11:22 PM)
Yes WOW! .. 1 phone.. 2 ecosystem.., security and stability - go find bbworld apps..., for variety..open snap and browse through tons of nice apps.

I haven't finish trying apps on google play..

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have anyone here manage to fixed the google play and google services dependency?

i wanted to try UBER apps...., and other maps dependent apps. tried to follow guide on crackberry.. but got lost..
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That's why you use Amazon app world.

there are ways that you can remove Google dependenicies, but depending on how deeply integrated it is, really.
As far as I know, there are things that you can actually yank out and make it work, like Google Maps, and to an extent, Ingress.
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I'm still hesitating to get a BB. Last time had a 9700. The experience was good except for the dreaded hourglass wait. Then changed to my current S3, which is a shitty phone. Lags like hell.

Many told me BB is a dying company. My playbook was the best tablet I had, the multitasking feature is 2nd to none but the apps and games were poor.

Still trying to convince myself to get a Z30.... :'(
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jun 24 2014, 04:41 PM)
I'm still hesitating to get a BB. Last time had a 9700. The experience was good except for the dreaded hourglass wait. Then changed to my current S3, which is a shitty phone. Lags like hell.

Many told me BB is a dying company. My playbook was the best tablet I had, the multitasking feature is 2nd to none but the apps and games were poor.

Still trying to convince myself to get a Z30.... :'(
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BlackBerry just reported a small profit last financial report, with their cash inhand of 3 billion (if I remember correctly) and with their new ceo cutting down costs, I highly doubt they're a dying company, even if they are, I doubt they will die anytime soon. Honestly if you want to just dip your toe in the bb10 os but don't want to splurge too much cash, get the new z3, available in first week of July for RM699 but from what I've heard about the z30, if you can afford it, it's the BlackBerry phone to get now (unless you're a qwerty bloke). Honestly I used to be like you, doubting BlackBerry's financial state, afraid of biting the bullet, but I just took a leap of faith and got myself a Q10 and no regrets smile.gif
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jun 24 2014, 04:41 PM)
I'm still hesitating to get a BB. Last time had a 9700. The experience was good except for the dreaded hourglass wait. Then changed to my current S3, which is a shitty phone. Lags like hell.

Many told me BB is a dying company. My playbook was the best tablet I had, the multitasking feature is 2nd to none but the apps and games were poor.

Still trying to convince myself to get a Z30.... :'(
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What the man above has said, get it and you wouldn't regret unless you're a keyboard junkie, and I felt it too. Wanted to get the Z10 when it came out, but took a Xperia Z instead because my friend in Singapore said it's a dying company. Looking back, I hated myself for not getting it else I would've two of BB10 awesomeness.

Apps is not a problem with BlackBerry anymore, neither the hourglass if you go for Z30 biggrin.gif you can install Snap and apps from Google Store is there for you. Sifu hyperyouth_firepower explained how snap works several posts up smile.gif

Take the leap, you won't regret leaving your S3 behind smile.gif
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Does the phone lags when running non-native apps (Android apps)? Had enough of lags with my 9700 and S3.

Will android sucks it memory and power? My S3 sometimes feels hot hot no apparent reason and I need to kill all apps. A stupid smartphone!

Spending RM1.4k means a big leap when with that kinda money, there's a lot of choices.
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jun 25 2014, 08:41 AM)
Does the phone lags when running non-native apps (Android apps)? Had enough of lags with my 9700 and S3.

Will android sucks it memory and power? My S3 sometimes feels hot hot no apparent reason and I need to kill all apps. A stupid smartphone!

Spending RM1.4k means a big leap when with that kinda money, there's a lot of choices.
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If you're coming from the S3, you probably want to try the Z30. I would not recommend the Z10, nor the current Z3 (unless you can wait for the Z30).

You should try it now as well. You can sideload and play games and stuffs with it. Please remember apps that uses Google Play Services will not work, or work properly. Google Framework is not supported at all.

If you need to ask anything further in spesifics, please feel free to. We're here to help. I won't sell you potential, I'm only promoting what BlackBerry devices can do right now.
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Thanks, Hyper.

BTW, what kinda apps that uses Google Play Services? I only know how to download and use the apps from Google Store. smile.gif

What's Google Framework?
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Hi guys,

Just got my Z30 today after my Z10 dead last night. Still adapting with size increasing..i have small hand, lol

My opinion, I think its a waste to put Blackberry wording under the screen just up to the bezel. I'd love if the wording Blackberry are engraved on the bezel itself so the screen can be stretch a little bit more, hence it look more premium...like engrave on Porsche Design Blackberry series.
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QUOTE(apiz_shogun @ Jun 25 2014, 04:20 PM)
Hi guys,

Just got my Z30 today after my Z10 dead last night. Still adapting with size increasing..i have small hand, lol

My opinion, I think its a waste to put Blackberry wording under the screen just up to the bezel. I'd love if the wording Blackberry are engraved on the bezel itself so the screen can be stretch a little bit more, hence it look more premium...like engrave on Porsche Design Blackberry series.
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Bought a Z30? Z10 beyond repair? How much did yr Z30 cost, if you don't mind sharing. biggrin.gif
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I bought it Rm1380, Brightstar warranty (2 years) at Subang Parade. Perhaps other place are more cheaper. I did not have much time to survey at other place since I need a phone urgently.

I not sure what happened with my Z10, but I plan to repair it this weekend
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QUOTE(apiz_shogun @ Jun 25 2014, 05:17 PM)
I bought it Rm1380, Brightstar warranty (2 years) at Subang Parade. Perhaps other place are more cheaper. I did not have much time to survey at other place since I need a phone urgently.

I not sure what happened with my Z10, but I plan to repair it this weekend
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Saw from iPMart. Only RM50 cheaper. I guess the price is in this region of below RM1.4k

BTW, your unit is LTE unit or just 3G? Heard LTE unit is a bit more expensive but the hardware is much better.

Now, need to save some money...

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Mine is LTE STA100-2 model. I'm not sure what the difference between 3G model & LTE model for the Z30. But for the Z10, the LTE model are better, less problematic than 3G model..speaking from experience.
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If online sellers say the warranty is from Blackberry, does it mean from Brightstar?
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If online sellers say the warranty is from Blackberry, does it mean from Brightstar?
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Just curious and I know there a lot of difference between Z10 and Z30 but wanna know apart from hardware; is there a big difference in terms of usability and user experience?

Z10 is only RM700 while Z30 is double the price. Is it really worth to get a phone that's twice as expensive? Need frank feedback on this coz it's just playing in my mind that 2x the price for a lower spec phone can be a tad too much!

Z10 can do what Z30 can, right?
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jun 27 2014, 11:39 AM)
Just curious and I know there a lot of difference between Z10 and Z30 but wanna know apart from hardware; is there a big difference in terms of usability and user experience?

Z10 is only RM700 while Z30 is double the price. Is it really worth to get a phone that's twice as expensive? Need frank feedback on this coz it's just playing in my mind that 2x the price for a lower spec phone can be a tad too much!

Z10 can do what Z30 can, right?
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More or less there is.

The only thing that Z10 can't do what the Z30 can do, (actually there are some, but prominent ones)

1. USB-On-The-Go (only z30 has it)
2. battery life per charge (negated with extra power banks / battery packs)
3. screen size
4. Paratek antenna (better reception)
5. Audio input and output (the Z30 is powerful enough to be used as a podcaster's device)
6. better screen (despite slightly lesser DPI, the screen isn't as painful to look at, you'll get what I mean)

7. User experience is only affected when how one of the 6 items above affects your daily life when you're with the phone.
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What's USB-On-The-Go?

Yup, read from forums that Z30's battery life is awesome while Z10's is poor. But that's not a big problem since most smartphone users nowadays carry a powerbank.


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What's USB-On-The-Go?
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It's the ability of being able to read and transfer files to and from USB devices such as pendrive directly and browse the files, provided you have the USB on the go cable. It really helps when you want to transfer media or files, especially if your device is getting low on memory.

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- 1 month+ using z30

- my previous handsets > n900, 808 pv, hp pre3, treo 680, e61, n8

- pro
Java supported in browser, can watch twitch etc directly
Multi task very well, your browser or youtube will not pause. upon minimize.
720p is good enough. This is subjective though.
OS is good. Very smooth user experience.
Can side load android app. Also easy to do.
Swiping works well indeed.
Keyboard is big and easy to type.
Watching dota 2 over side loaded twitch is fast and bug free
Calls are very clear indeed. Improvement is significant
To be updated...

- con
Camera is so-so. I have my nokia 808 as second mobile and camera...lol
Lack of accesories
Always on clock or screen, I havent tinker this yet
Slow boot up but uptime is good though, no multiple crashes

To be updated...

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I'm just wondering..... I'm on Maxis and Maxis stopped selling BBs. If I buy a BB, will I get notifications for updates? Are updates independent from mobile carriers?
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QUOTE(seui @ Jun 28 2014, 11:46 AM)
- 1 month+ using z30

- my previous handsets > n900, 808 pv, hp pre3, treo 680, e61, n8

- pro
      Java supported in browser, can watch twitch etc directly
      Multi task very well, your browser or youtube will not pause.      upon minimize.
      720p is good enough. This is subjective though.
      OS is good. Very smooth user experience.
      Can side load android app. Also easy to do.
      Swiping works well indeed.
      Keyboard is big and easy to type.
      Watching dota 2 over side loaded twitch is fast and bug free
      Calls are very clear indeed. Improvement is significant
      To be updated...

- con
      Camera is so-so. I have my nokia 808 as second mobile and camera...lol
      Lack of accesories
      Always on clock or screen, I havent tinker this yet
      Slow boot up but uptime is good though, no multiple crashes

      To be updated...
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Can't help much with the camera. Some say better, some say worse, but its different than the one in the Z10, that's for sure.

About boot up time, its timed to be exactly below 2 minutes, or was it 1 minute? I forgot. But its "exact", no way faster and no way slower. Previously it was even worse, at 5 minutes.

Always on Clock or screen? Try the settings at Settings > Display > Screen Time out. Max is 5 minutes.

QUOTE(lp16 @ Jun 28 2014, 12:57 PM)
I'm just wondering..... I'm on Maxis and Maxis stopped selling BBs. If I buy a BB, will I get notifications for updates? Are updates independent from mobile carriers?
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Yes, you will. But generally Malaysian telcos damn lazy to update punya. For example, I'm still stuck at .21xx when other telcos in Thailand and Singapore have already released OS .3147 like within 24 hours after BlackBerry put it live on their production servers.
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For OS update just plug your phone into the computer and run BlackBerry Link. It will update it to the latest version.
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For OS update just plug your phone into the computer and run BlackBerry Link. It will update it to the latest version.
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My Blackberry 10 update itself last night. No headache. No computer connection. Just restart after its done. rclxms.gif
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Hi,

Anybody using 64Gb memory card here? I'm having problem to access the memory card from pc/laptop. It says the card is not accessible. I also try to access the memory card through card reader but the same happened.

I want to back up my memory card content to my pc/laptop. Anyone having this problem?
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QUOTE(apiz_shogun @ Aug 6 2014, 12:02 PM)
Hi,

Anybody using 64Gb memory card here? I'm having problem to access the memory card from pc/laptop. It says the card is not accessible. I also try to access the memory card through card reader but the same happened.

I want to back up my memory card content to my pc/laptop. Anyone having this problem?
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no issues for me. perhaps your card cannot b read due to malfunction? cool2.gif cool2.gif cool2.gif
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QUOTE(apiz_shogun @ Aug 6 2014, 01:02 PM)
Hi,

Anybody using 64Gb memory card here? I'm having problem to access the memory card from pc/laptop. It says the card is not accessible. I also try to access the memory card through card reader but the same happened.

I want to back up my memory card content to my pc/laptop. Anyone having this problem?
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If its class 10, then its your card.

If its not class 10, then the problem is its not class 10.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 7 2014, 12:20 AM)
If its class 10, then its your card.

If its not class 10, then the problem is its not class 10.
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Hi hyperyouth_firepower, yes..I'm using Strontium Nitro 566X class 10 micro sdxc card. It is about the cards format? Currently my sd card just corrupted, I lost all my pics including my wedding pics...damn! Suddenly my phone did not detect it & it say my card got problem. Need to reformat to use it again. After reformat using phone (exFAT format), then my laptop can detect it.

If my memory serve me right, my phone format the card to NTFS. Thats why I wondering why my laptop can't access it. What the different if using FAT32 format?

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QUOTE(apiz_shogun @ Sep 25 2014, 10:16 AM)
Hi hyperyouth_firepower, yes..I'm using Strontium Nitro 566X class 10 micro sdxc card. It is about the cards format? Currently my sd card just corrupted, I lost all my pics including my wedding pics...damn! Suddenly my phone did not detect it & it say my card got problem. Need to reformat to use it again. After reformat using phone (exFAT format), then my laptop can detect it.

If my memory serve me right, my phone format the card to NTFS. Thats why I wondering why my laptop can't access it. What the different if using FAT32 format?
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if FAT 32, both the phone and computer should be able to see it. I forgot the very spesific reasons why, but NTFS is primarily a Microsoft-Windows thing.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 25 2014, 02:47 PM)
if FAT 32, both the phone and computer should be able to see it. I forgot the very spesific reasons why, but NTFS is primarily a Microsoft-Windows thing.
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Hm, just reformat my sd card. Right now it can be detected by my laptop, it using exFAT format. Its weird actually..the card come with exFAT format at the first place but my phone can't detect it.


Anyone experience using higher amp charger to charge your phone? I'm used to charge my z30 with samsung travel charger, 5.3V 2.1A. The first several charge, the phone charge very fast but right now it won't charge anymore with that charger. I need to use lower Voltage and Amperage charger only then my phone can be recharge back.

Anyone experience this?
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QUOTE(apiz_shogun @ Sep 30 2014, 09:49 AM)
Hm, just reformat my sd card. Right now it can be detected by my laptop, it using exFAT format. Its weird actually..the card come with exFAT format at the first place but my phone can't detect it.
Anyone experience using higher amp charger to charge your phone? I'm used to charge my z30 with samsung travel charger, 5.3V 2.1A. The first several charge, the phone charge very fast but right now it won't charge anymore with that charger. I need to use lower Voltage and Amperage charger only then my phone can be recharge back.

Anyone experience this?
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I use my BlackBerry PlayBook charger all the time (not sure the V), my Z30 works the same during and after charge like usual. Just a lil hot than when using its own charger. Have you tried using the the charger to charge other devices?
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QUOTE(apiz_shogun @ Sep 30 2014, 10:49 AM)
Hm, just reformat my sd card. Right now it can be detected by my laptop, it using exFAT format. Its weird actually..the card come with exFAT format at the first place but my phone can't detect it.
Anyone experience using higher amp charger to charge your phone? I'm used to charge my z30 with samsung travel charger, 5.3V 2.1A. The first several charge, the phone charge very fast but right now it won't charge anymore with that charger. I need to use lower Voltage and Amperage charger only then my phone can be recharge back.

Anyone experience this?
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Probably got corrupted?

There are cases where when you put in an ex-fat sd card, BlackBerry Link will prompt the phone to auto install drivers on both the phone and the computer for the ex-fat drivers. This happened particularly for 10.2.1.1xxx users and also those who jumped to 10.3 leaked.
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QUOTE(m3darkid @ Sep 30 2014, 11:06 AM)
I use my BlackBerry PlayBook charger all the time (not sure the V), my Z30 works the same during and after charge like usual. Just a lil hot than when using its own charger. Have you tried using the the charger to charge other devices?
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I also try to charge it to my Z10, the same happened. First several charges are good, battery charging are very fast and phone get a little warm during that time. But after several times, it not working anymore. The charging indicator are shown next to battery indicator, but when you open Device Monitor..the battery only shown power percentage, not charging time remaining. The weird things are, during this time..the battery kept draining as usual!!

I had to use BB original charger to charge both phone now. Sometimes I'm using another adaptor with 5V 2.1A to charge it faster, this one is ok for both my phone.



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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 30 2014, 07:11 PM)
Probably got corrupted?

There are cases where when you put in an ex-fat sd card, BlackBerry Link will prompt the phone to auto install drivers on both the phone and the computer for the ex-fat drivers. This happened particularly for 10.2.1.1xxx users and also those who jumped to 10.3 leaked.
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Yeah, since you mention it..I remember when I put in the SD card into the phone, my phone download a driver for my SD card. I'm using 10.2.1.2997
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nak tanya bb z30 ni ada masalah sangkut2 / hang mcm android fon?
cth: bila buka fb time nk scroll tu dia sangkut2....Tq
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nak tanya bb z30 ni ada masalah sangkut2 / hang mcm android fon?
cth: bila buka fb time nk scroll tu dia sangkut2....Tq
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from my experience: 99.99% neverrrrr rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(TokMek @ Oct 1 2014, 11:22 PM)
nak tanya bb z30 ni ada masalah sangkut2 / hang mcm android fon?
cth: bila buka fb time nk scroll tu dia sangkut2....Tq
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Near impossible.
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Near impossible.
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Maybe he got a lemon... hard to say.
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Maybe he got a lemon... hard to say.
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Which is true, and if you use leaked OS, that's also true.
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Jumping from nexus 4 to z30. happy with this new phone. thumbup.gif Berat than my previous n4. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(inspire_evo @ Oct 6 2014, 07:21 AM)
Jumping from nexus 4 to z30. happy with this new phone. thumbup.gif Berat than my previous n4.  shocking.gif
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How much Z30 right now?
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Should be around RM12xx like that for new unit. I think the issue that we should be concerned of is the stock availability rather than price.

If anyone here wish to let go their Z30, can PM me. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(inspire_evo @ Oct 6 2014, 07:21 AM)
Jumping from nexus 4 to z30. happy with this new phone. thumbup.gif Berat than my previous n4.  shocking.gif
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I made the jump from my Xperia Z, I think I jumped more than 1km ahead haha tongue.gif

The weight is ok, I guess. Makes the device feel durable.
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Z30 is still a solid hardware. Its overpowered for BlackBerry 10 OS (If you look at the Z3 and the Q5 hardware and how they run, you'll be amazed), that's why the price is still hanging on to RM1.2k despite being only a dual-core CPU hardware.
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guy..original bb warranty from ? i start interesting bb z30 while waiting iphone 6 lunch..
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guy..original bb warranty from ? i start interesting bb z30 while waiting iphone 6 lunch..
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Hey guys, any comment on the call volume on the Z30. I have read reviews from people complaining about the soft earpiece volume and is supposedly fixed in the latest 10.2.xxx updates.

Also does the Paratek antenna helps with the signal reception. I'm currently using Bold 9900 and the signal (Digi) keep on fluctuating between 1-3 signals and 3G/edge status while using indoor.

Still seeking for a phone with good call quality (no dropped call, clear sound at both party), and good signal reception over my iPhone 4S.

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QUOTE(D.Sync @ Oct 9 2014, 05:30 PM)
Hey guys, any comment on the call volume on the Z30. I have read reviews from people complaining about the soft earpiece volume and is supposedly fixed in the latest 10.2.xxx updates.

Also does the Paratek antenna helps with the signal reception. I'm currently using Bold 9900 and the signal (Digi) keep on fluctuating between 1-3 signals and 3G/edge status while using indoor.

Still seeking for a phone with good call quality (no dropped call, clear sound at both party), and good signal reception over my iPhone 4S.
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eh? iPhone4? You can buy a caplakang china brand phone and it will still have better reception than iPhone.

the z30 is a true legend in itself. Only surpassed by the Passport (as of writing)

The Paratek antenna isn't just for show, its a tried and proven solution.
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My Z30 finally arrived after placing my order yesterday. Overall speaking I am very impressed with BBOS 10. Mind you that this is my first time getting exposed to it and I'm already started to love it.

As expected, the immediate things I did after unboxing it was plugging it into a charger and let it update to 10.2.1.5xxx from the stock 10.2.0.xxx. At that point I didn't really explore it nor syncing my data such as contacts to avoid possible issues during the update. Coming from iOS allow me to share some impressive findings in both software and hardware on the Z30. Honestly speaking, it is very enticing for me to do that. Perhaps it's my love for the BlackBerry OS and the device itself.

Prior to that allow me to share some basic info. I had used iPhone for almost 3 years now and only started to get really interested about BlackBerry 3 weeks ago by purchasing a Bold 9900. Yes you heard me right, a three years old device and now a Z30. Main reason for the switch is finding a phone that had a great reception. I found that the reception on the iPhone is just okay and occasionally experienced bad call quality and the need to ask the other party to repeat a sentence, which is very annoying I know. The Bold 9900 proved it and despite my love on it, I found BBOS7 is not a prowess when it comes to modern apps multitasking and performance. Plus the apps on BBOS7 really showed it's age nowadays.

Without further ado let's begin.

# Software
Blackberry Hub. All my social connections, emails and notification under one roof, a unify interface for composing post to various services without having to open up multiple apps behind. Definitely a big reason why I purchase this Z30 in the first place.

Entirely swipe based user interface. Frankly speaking I'm never a fan of swipe gesture and I always thought it's a gimmick. But after trying it for just 5 minutes, I started to wonder why doesn't anyone think of it long ages ago?

Typing experience. The virtual keyboard. I have a confession to make. This must be the best virtual keyboard I had ever used. I had tried both iOS and Android keyboard and always found them to be very cramped at times. The text prediction is very akin to Octopus Keyboard on Cydia, which is no longer supported in iOS 7. I especially like the ample spacing and the silver lined separator between each key row. Pretty much like the actual physical keyboard on the Q10. I actually see a huge improvement on my typing speed and accuracy now. Bam bam bam!!

True multitasking. The ability to open up to 8 active application simultaneously, that's true multitasking. As a matter of fact, I'm having YouTube music open on the background while typing this.

Flash support on Browser. What more can I say, a desktop YouTube version on a large 5 inch screen? I'm satisfied.

Customization. BBOS 10.2.1 definitely comes with tons of customization options such as unique ring tones per application and per person in stock! Spent almost 15 minutes trying to put those ring tones and notifications alert that I downloaded in use. Sadly the LED color is not customizable but thanks to Bebuzz, you can do it too!

Android app compatible. I have heard people that used to side load Android application by going through complicated process but thanks to Amazon App Store, installing an Android application has never been easier. Granted not all apps are there such as QuizUp. I have read that applications that uses Google API framework will not work. Still not sure how Amazon App Store distribute the apps. Hope someone can shed some light on this.

# Hardware
5 inch AMOLED display. Compared to IPhone 4S meekly 3.5 inch screen, this screen is huge. The color gamut is quite what I expected since I had used PS Vita first generation which uses similar technology. It's not too overly saturated compared to some display I saw on Samsung phone. The screen is definitely less brighter than LED or LCD counterpart but hey, it's more power efficient.

Stereo speakers. My first time to enjoy any smartphone having dual speakers. Although they are located at the back unlike the nVidia Shield tablet, it still sounded clear and boomy when lie flat on the surface. Definitely a step up from iPhone and great for table conference call.

Ergonomics - Weight. Although 170g might seemed heavy compared to other similar sized smartphones with lesser weight, I felt that the overall weight is well spread and distributed. The curved edge also lies comfortably when you hold it on one hand. No complaints on the ergonomics here. You just got to hold it to feel it and ignore those numbers on the technical sheet.

Some gripes I felt about Z30:
Low earpiece volume. Despite cranking the volume to the maximum during a phone call over carrier network, it still sounded very low. This is in consistent and matches the reports posted by many users on CrackBerry. I'm not sure whether it's the OS update that causes it as I never tried 10.2.0 straight out of the box. I would love to hear some feedbacks on this. Meanwhile I will search around for solution. My 2 cents is this is probably something that can be solved by software and is probably overlooked by those BlackBerry developers.

Wow its getting late now and I'm going to pen off now. Going to set the alarm next and I have heard even setting an alarm is easy peasy compared to other OS'es.

P/S: Did I mentioned that I typed this post completely on my Z30? :-P


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About the sound you are right. It IS detuned, lowered down. On 10.3 you will have equalizer and some loudness enhancements.

and...

WELCOME BACK TO BLACK!

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After testing my Z30 for two days and I still haven't found any good solution for the soft earpiece volume. As you said I'm sure the upcoming 10.3 can easily fixed it.

In terms of the display I must say that I found the color to be quite saturated which is largely due to the wider color gamut of the AMOLED display. For some reason I still prefer the sharpness and color display on my iOS device. Though I still enjoy using it for its OS.

As for the battery life I found that it can only last 15 hours at most instead of the reported 1 or 1 1/2 day of usage. I had set the screen brightness to around 10%, disable auto toke update and unnecessary communication capability. Device monitor showed that the Display is the biggest energy sucker and CPU usage is normal with no application hogging the demand.
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where can get z30 accesories?
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This is a question I have been asking myself too. It is kind of rare ton purchase locally.
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QUOTE(D.Sync @ Oct 13 2014, 07:13 PM)
As for the battery life I found that it can only last 15 hours at most instead of the reported 1 or 1 1/2 day of usage. I had set the screen brightness to around 10%, disable auto toke update and unnecessary communication capability. Device monitor showed that the Display is the biggest energy sucker and CPU usage is normal with no application hogging the demand.
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Perhaps the new unit's battery is still getting used to your usage? Plus new phones tend to be played with more so perhaps the capability will improve over time..?
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Someone's selling their Z30, those interested quick try and grab it biggrin.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3379412
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Checking in as new BB Z30 owner. Got it at RM1,0xx from directd.

Now to get the other accessories...

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Nov 21 2014, 06:56 PM)
Checking in as new BB Z30 owner. Got it at RM1,0xx from directd.

Now to get the other accessories...
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Awesome!!!!!
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Its quite hard to find Z30 here in Malaysia, not sure where to got one. Most of the accessories I bought from shopblackberry & ebay.

Anybody know where I can find powercase for Z30 like this Z30 PowerCase in Malaysia? I need more juice!!
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Thought of getting one while waiting for my iPhone 6 to come.
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Just bought receive my Z30.
Loving it.

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Just bought receive my Z30.
Loving it.
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Awesome!!! It will become a lot more awesome after the 10.3 update next month drool.gif
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Awesome!!! It will become a lot more awesome after the 10.3 update next month  drool.gif
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What's the current price for Z30? Lazada going for RM1199 for LTE unit. Any better pricing?

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there are some other shops like DirectD that sell for RM10xx... thumbup.gif do a search in Mudah biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(harrycnut @ Dec 30 2014, 04:27 PM)
there are some other shops like DirectD that sell for RM10xx...  thumbup.gif  do a search in Mudah  biggrin.gif
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yup... bought the Z30 coz this price really good....

now waiting for similar pricing for Passport xmas time next year haha thumbup.gif
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there are some other shops like DirectD that sell for RM10xx...  thumbup.gif  do a search in Mudah  biggrin.gif
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do u know where is cheaper? online shops or lowyat?
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RM10XX is for 3G unit, right? LTE should be more expensive. Wonder if worth to get LTE....
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do u know where is cheaper? online shops or lowyat?
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bought my Z30 from Seven Mobile in Old Klang Road for RM1049... not sure about prices in Lowyat...
also a quick search on Mudah shows DirectD selling for Rm1039 icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Dec 31 2014, 11:28 AM)
RM10XX is for 3G unit, right? LTE should be more expensive. Wonder if worth to get LTE....
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iirc all Z30 models have LTE compatibility unlike the Z10 STL100-1 which is just up to 3G... so just get the cheapest offer for a Z30 as its all LTE compatible thumbup.gif
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Oh... really? I've always thought Z30 comes in 3G or LTE units.
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BTW, I assume the Z30 comes with 10.2 OS, right? Since this is not a 'new' phone. Upon power-up, it can be updated to 10.3 automatically?
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QUOTE(harrycnut @ Dec 31 2014, 10:43 AM)
bought my Z30 from Seven Mobile in Old Klang Road for RM1049... not sure about prices in Lowyat...
also a quick search on Mudah shows DirectD selling for Rm1039 icon_rolleyes.gif
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I mean in general. I am gonna buy a Blackberry Passport next week, so I wanted to know where I can get a good deal biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Dec 31 2014, 05:57 PM)
BTW, I assume the Z30 comes with 10.2 OS, right? Since this is not a 'new' phone. Upon power-up, it can be updated to 10.3 automatically?
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mine OTA updated to OS ver 10.2.1.3442

i dont think the 10.3.1 is not yet available officially for other devices apart from the BB Classic.. unless you wanna try a leaked OS which you can read up on CrackBerry brows.gif thumbup.gif
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Z30 or Classic?

Dilemma. Thought of getting a Z30 for its screen real estate but the phone is already 'old'.

Classic is still hot but just not sure about the small screen. Already used to full touch phone after 2years+ using a S3; which is btw, the worst phone EVER!

Can anyone give opinion? Is Z30 on OS10.3 yet?
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jan 23 2015, 10:15 PM)
Z30 or Classic?

Dilemma. Thought of getting a Z30 for its screen real estate but the phone is already 'old'.

Classic is still hot but just not sure about the small screen. Already used to full touch phone after 2years+ using a S3; which is btw, the worst phone EVER!

Can anyone give opinion? Is Z30 on OS10.3 yet?
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Z30 is the best full touch BlackBerry to date. Better than Z10 in almost every way (longer battery life, natural sound technology, 5' display) current OS is 10.2.1. BlackBerry OS 10.3 most probably came next month.

While BlackBerry Classic is the new BlackBerry bad boy with sleek timeless look, the best QWERTY experience and stocked and 10.3.1.

Price wise, you should be able to get Z30 just above 1K price (the price does not drop fast) while Classic is yours in the RM1588 region.

You choose brother thumbup.gif
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My current telco's contract has expired and my S3 lags like hell. Too bad no more telcos offering Z30 for contract.

Now got to buy from dealers....

My main worry is warranty claim. Don't want AP set. Anyone care to share where to get ori set and the experience Of using Z3?

Any lag issues? While i understand that apps selections are limited, is lagging an issue using Android apps?

Thx.
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Went to Celcom; not selling Z30 anymore.

Planning to go 1Gadget but many told me they sell AP sets. How to tell if sets are AP or Ori? Friends also said most are unsealed boxes.
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jan 30 2015, 02:38 PM)
Went to Celcom; not selling Z30 anymore.

Planning to go 1Gadget but many told me they sell AP sets. How to tell if sets are AP or Ori? Friends also said most are unsealed boxes.
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Kompleks Mutiara Jalan Ipoh ?
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1Gadget just sent me an email reply saying they don't have Z30. Too bad.... sad.gif

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I myself have been checking over 15 shops and online resellers, no stock fr Z30 Brighstar / Brightpoint / Ingram Micro sets. Heck, even their own BlackBerry shop at e@curve told me they have been waiting for Z30 restock for quite some time too.
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I myself have been checking over 15 shops and online resellers, no stock fr Z30 Brighstar / Brightpoint / Ingram Micro sets. Heck, even their own BlackBerry shop at e@curve told me they have been waiting for Z30 restock for quite some time too.
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No choice bro. Buy online through Lazada.com.my thumbup.gif

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No warranty ooooo..... i fear it is not new but refurbished... sad.gif

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No choice bro. Buy online through Lazada.com.my  thumbup.gif
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Ya... That's my concern too; unless original warranty.
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Ya... That's my concern too; unless original warranty.
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Damn difficult to get a Z30! Finally manage to get my friend to help me out. Price is RM1080; claimed to be original with Brightpoint warranty.

To all sifus, how do I know if the set is ori and not AP? Any tell tale sign to look out for?
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Feb 3 2015, 09:56 PM)
Damn difficult to get a Z30! Finally manage to get my friend to help me out. Price is RM1080; claimed to be original with Brightpoint warranty.

To all sifus, how do I know if the set is ori and not AP? Any tell tale sign to look out for?
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Congratulations for your new Z30!! I've been thinking of changing to Z30 from my Z10 since the launch 2 years ago, but my Z10 keep on performing. I guess it's true what they said, Blackberry is built to last notworthy.gif
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Haven't got mine .... yet! Just wondering, how do we know it's an ori set with Brightpoint warranty.

If confirm ori, RM1080 will be a good price since most online dealers I contacted send me a 'No stock' reply.
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Anyone knows why the market seems to be out of Z30? Made my booking but was told no stock too! sad.gif
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Haven't got mine .... yet! Just wondering, how do we know it's an ori set with Brightpoint warranty.

If confirm ori, RM1080 will be a good price since most online dealers I contacted send me a 'No stock' reply.
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Hmm. Not sure but you can always open up the back cover and look for brightstar warranty sticker. My phone have it.
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Where did u buy? No one seems to keep a unit!
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Are local distributors stop taking Z30 stocks bexause new model coming soon?

Z50 in the pipeline? wink.gif tongue.gif

I want a all touch BB!!!!
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Z50 is still a long way to go. I am really confused why Z30 is a no-show anywhere around Klang Valley.
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Are local distributors stop taking Z30 stocks bexause new model coming soon?

Z50 in the pipeline?  wink.gif tongue.gif

I want a all touch BB!!!!
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Yup, same here. Got their reply all saying the same thing - Z30 is discontinued & try to offer me Classic or Passport which is way beyond my budget
*sigh... must search all corners for Z30 now
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Anyone side loading ooVoo on their bb10 device? I can't get it to open after signing in. I really love my Z30 but since my family is all over the world we like to group video chat. Need to find an alternative or change phone. Sigh. sad.gif
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Don't think Z30 is discontinued. It's the only flagship all touch BB!

Most likely due to low sales that local distributors don't keep much stocks.

Too bad.... still hunting tho. Please update if you can find a Z30, new with original warranty.
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Anyone side loading ooVoo on their bb10 device? I can't get it to open after signing in. I really love my Z30 but since my family is all over the world we like to group video chat. Need to find an alternative or change phone. Sigh. sad.gif
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try install line or wechat (android apk) both can make video call
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try install  line or wechat (android apk) both can make video call
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Already have those. But they don't have group video call right. I need group video calling for more than one. Too bad.
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Anyone knows where to buy a Z30?!

Seems like the phone is no more on sale. Tried LowYat plaza. Tried calling up individual sellers that posted in ebay and other online sites. All said not selling anymore.

Aiyo.... Is this phone obsolete?

If u guys know any place that sells original unit, let me know.

Thanks
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Feb 17 2015, 12:29 PM)
Anyone knows where to buy a Z30?!

Seems like the phone is no more on sale. Tried LowYat plaza. Tried calling up individual sellers that posted in ebay and other online sites. All said not selling anymore.

Aiyo.... Is this phone obsolete?

If u guys know any place that sells original unit, let me know.

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Try BBUGMY

Google it up.

You may get a deal there.

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Even tried at Celcom KLIA2. Same answer. Sent an email to Brightpoint and ask if Z30 has been discontinued in Malaysia. Would be interested to know if they reply.
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when ota os update for z30 (celcom)
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Giving up looking for a Z30. Found one unit in Nilai, but it's a demo set...

Most probably gonna give iP6 a try.
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Z30 local set is back in market. Found at Directd and ID Smartphone. smile.gif
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QUOTE(yanaam @ Feb 26 2015, 04:16 PM)
Z30 local set is back in market. Found at Directd and ID Smartphone. smile.gif
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Really? rclxms.gif

Gotta check out now!

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post Feb 26 2015, 11:29 PM

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Takde la bro... Directd website still show sold out. :'(
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I saw it yesterday at Lelong. Just now check also still available at directd but idsmartphone already sold out.
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QUOTE(yanaam @ Feb 27 2015, 09:20 AM)
I saw it yesterday at Lelong. Just now check also still available at directd but idsmartphone already sold out.
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Went to their official website. Showed out of stock. Maybe they didn't update their stock status in Lelong.TThere's a seller who put up in ebay. Rexted him and told me no more stock too.
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Try go to iclickz.com
I tick Z30 as wishlist. I hope they got stock la
I know I always check Z30 in Lelong too. All said in their website got stock like 1gadget, directd, hopefully once my budget sudah cukup, they have that ready stock...
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iclickz.com reliable? Anyone bought stuff there? It stated the warranty is 1 year manufacturer warranty, means by Brightstar?

Found Z30 at Tropicana Mall but asking for RM1299!
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any Z30 owners updating to 10.3.1 getting dead phone?
apparently this seems to happen to a lot of people at crackberry forum too..
said to be software power management originated or something

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-z3...charge-1002916/

http://forums.crackberry.com/ask-question-...update-1002893/



also, check BlackBerry Leap-- alternaltive for Z10, but with slider form factor shocking.gif

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-all-new-b...berry-10-slider

http://crackberry.com/hands-blackberry-leap

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Those who have Z30 DO NOT UPDATE to 10.3.1 YET.
If you have, KEEP THE BATTERY FULL / do not let it drain low

or

you will get this issue, no solution by BlackBerry yet:

http://btsc.webapps.blackberry.com/btsc/vi...sListHelperImpl
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QUOTE(m3darkid @ Mar 4 2015, 12:46 AM)
any Z30 owners updating to 10.3.1 getting dead phone?
apparently this seems to happen to a lot of people at crackberry forum too..
said to be software power management originated or something

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-z3...charge-1002916/

http://forums.crackberry.com/ask-question-...update-1002893/
also, check BlackBerry Leap-- alternaltive for Z10, but with slider form factor  shocking.gif

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-all-new-b...berry-10-slider

http://crackberry.com/hands-blackberry-leap
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Leap is not a slider. That's another new phone prototype that still has no name.

Leap is a mid entry phone replacing the Z series candybar phones. Speed almost the same as Z3. Many has voiced their disappointments for BB10 using low or old hardware. Well, below $280 phone ma....

Just gotta see when this phone will come in. Europe should get it around April.

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Mine already kene...screen of death...arghhh...

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QUOTE(zwansh @ Mar 13 2015, 10:35 PM)
Mine already kene...screen of death...arghhh...
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Read from Crackberry's forum that the SoD will happen is battery flat.
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Mar 13 2015, 11:46 PM)
Read from Crackberry's forum that the SoD will happen is battery flat.
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Thing is even if your battery is 100% within minutes will go flat (battery icon red outline with empty inside). If it goes dead, that's it. But when tried on, black screen. Press volume down a while you can hear bb assistant speaking.

Anybody think changing the screen will do anything? On crackberry said changing screen doesnt help too. Phone stays blacked out.
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QUOTE(zwansh @ Mar 13 2015, 10:35 PM)
Mine already kene...screen of death...arghhh...
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I feel you bro. Using lg g2 now. Still miss my Z30.
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New Z30 owner here. Upgrade from Z10 last week.
Bought white version... and AP set :-(

Going good so far with 10.3 OS and large screen estate!
No problem with the screen yet though
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Anyone tried pairing with playbook?
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QUOTE(Kellyyhx @ Mar 23 2015, 12:07 PM)
Anyone tried pairing with playbook?
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i did. basically playbook is more optimised to be paired with OS7.
i remembered z30's notifications on playbook too.
other than that i'm not too sure what else it could do cause i disconnect.
double notifications. haha tongue.gif

and oh, emails can be read from the playbook too. haha

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guys, with this latest OS 10.3, have you try Blend?
I want to try but to install BB Blend at my laptop is almost impossible
Always pop up error as currently still have BB Link
not visible in control panel if want to uninstall...
Any tips out there to uninstall BB Link?
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QUOTE(syawalz @ Mar 24 2015, 06:23 PM)
guys, with this latest OS 10.3, have you try Blend?
I want to try but to install BB Blend at my laptop is almost impossible
Always pop up error as currently still have BB Link
not visible in control panel if want to uninstall...
Any tips out there to uninstall BB Link?
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You'll have to re-download the latest BBLInk, then download the latest BBBlend, then install BBLink first, then connect it (once its connected, don't disconnect, install BBBlend)


there's this one version of BBBlend, if you install it claims to install both Link and Blend, but neither works.
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Is AP sets any different from Original set?

Only thing I know is AP sets warranty is from the shops that sell it and local distributor will not honor any claim. Am I right?

Still trying to hunt for one.... vmad.gif mad.gif cry.gif GST coming and any purchase after today will be at least 6% more expensive!

This post has been edited by lp16: Mar 31 2015, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Mar 31 2015, 03:23 PM)
Is AP sets any different from Original set?

Only thing I know is AP sets warranty is from the shops that sell it and local distributor will not honor any claim. Am I right?

Still trying to hunt for one....  vmad.gif  mad.gif  cry.gif  GST coming and any purchase after today will be at least 6% more expensive!
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AFAIK, your understanding is correct. The only difference is the warranty.
Just got myself an AP set of Z30 last week rclxms.gif

For the record, previously I used a Z10, also an AP set from DirectD. I gave it to my wife now cause her Z10 which is actually ori set from Brightstar died on her. Mine is still functioning perfectly, and both are about two years old. The only thing I've replaced on my Z10 is the battery.
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QUOTE(zwansh @ Mar 13 2015, 10:35 PM)
Mine already kene...screen of death...arghhh...
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bro does your phone still makes sound for noti and when tapping power button 3 times it speaks to you (screen reader mode)? If yes (like mine), I contacted BB through email and they are prepared to give warranty but have to go to their service center by our self. They give like 2 + 14 days to claim the extended warranty using the ticket they gave you.

If you are too lazy to go to their service center (like me), you could buy a new screen for less than rm240 with postage and change it. Very simple and easy procedure. Voila, the phone becomes amazing again. biggrin.gif Just for case of SoD, not one where it does not power on at all.

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QUOTE(m3darkid @ Apr 8 2015, 04:56 AM)
bro does your phone still makes sound for noti and when tapping power button 3 times it speaks to you (screen reader mode)? If yes (like mine), I contacted BB through email and they are prepared to give warranty but have to go to their service center by our self. They give like 2 + 14 days to claim the extended warranty using the ticket they gave you.

If you are too lazy to go to their service center (like me), you could buy a new screen for less than rm240 with postage and change it. Very simple and easy procedure. Voila, the phone becomes amazing again. biggrin.gif Just for case of SoD, not one where it does not power on at all.
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Already fix mine by replacing the screen myself.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 25 2015, 06:08 AM)
You'll have to re-download the latest BBLInk, then download the latest BBBlend, then install BBLink first, then connect it (once its connected, don't disconnect, install BBBlend)
there's this one version of BBBlend, if you install it claims to install both Link and Blend, but neither works.
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Actually the bblend is for what? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Apr 12 2015, 10:37 PM)
Actually the bblend is for what? hmm.gif
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its a desktop app that allows you to have your blackberry's basic functionalities, like your hub, email, bbm, via your desktop. Its good if you're trying to be discreet about using your handphone.

the support for 3rd party apps is limited for now, but it should grow.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 12 2015, 11:40 PM)
its a desktop app that allows you to have your blackberry's basic functionalities, like your hub, email, bbm, via your desktop. Its good if you're trying to be discreet about using your handphone.

the support for 3rd party apps is limited for now, but it should grow.
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Connected thru WiFi,Bluetooth,USB or what?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Apr 13 2015, 12:46 AM)
Connected thru WiFi,Bluetooth,USB or what?
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all 3 can, if you configure properly.
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QUOTE(syawalz @ Mar 23 2015, 12:01 PM)
New Z30 owner here. Upgrade from Z10 last week.
Bought white version... and AP set :-(

Going good so far with 10.3 OS and large screen estate!
No problem with the screen yet though
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How much did you pay for it?
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anyone tried install microsoft outlook in bbz30??
may i know how to add the notification in bb hub?? it seems like i dont have option to add outlook in bb hub.
i install outlook reason is i store all files in office 365, sometimes i need to download or email files in the onedrive cloud. thats is the main reason i install outlook....
please help...
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QUOTE(zwansh @ Apr 10 2015, 06:46 PM)
Already fix mine by replacing the screen myself.
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Where can i get a new screen replacement. My screen crack bad time. Still loving my z30. tq
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QUOTE(m3darkid @ Apr 8 2015, 03:56 AM)
bro does your phone still makes sound for noti and when tapping power button 3 times it speaks to you (screen reader mode)? If yes (like mine), I contacted BB through email and they are prepared to give warranty but have to go to their service center by our self. They give like 2 + 14 days to claim the extended warranty using the ticket they gave you.

If you are too lazy to go to their service center (like me), you could buy a new screen for less than rm240 with postage and change it. Very simple and easy procedure. Voila, the phone becomes amazing again. biggrin.gif Just for case of SoD, not one where it does not power on at all.
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May i know from where you order the screen from? Need new screen for my z30. Tq
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May i know from where you order  the screen from? Need new screen for my z30. Tq
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if you search z30 screen here got one seller open a thread. I bought from him too but through lelong if I'm not mistaken. Or you could buy from eBay, screen itself is cheaper but not much different when included postage fee.
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Hi.. can a z30 installed with Playstore?
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quote=nax_xa,Sep 25 2015, 10:38 AM]
Hi.. can a z30 installed with Playstore?
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http://forums.crackberry.com/android-apps-...uctions-985344/

Yes Z30 can be installed , please refer the link which is self explanatory







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[quote=feno,Oct 2 2015, 03:04 PM]
quote=nax_xa,Sep 25 2015, 10:38 AM]
Hi.. can a z30 installed with Playstore?
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http://forums.crackberry.com/android-apps-...uctions-985344/

Yes Z30 can be installed , please refer the link which is self explanatory
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[/quote]

Thanks
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hi. just got a z30 from my father (he changed to android). trying to do security wipe. is it normal it takes 3 hours(75%) to wipe data? damn so long afraid it stuck

 

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