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 Proton Suprima S V1, If no one replies, ask Preve club :P

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SetsunaFSeiei Exia00
post Jun 9 2014, 03:06 AM

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Hmm, I am considering buying a Proton car. Which is better? Suprima S or Prevé?
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post Jun 9 2014, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(SetsunaFSeiei Exia00 @ Jun 9 2014, 03:06 AM)
Hmm, I am considering buying a Proton car. Which is better? Suprima S or Prevé?
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QUOTE(jcax @ Jun 8 2014, 02:30 PM)
guys..is suprima the same thing as preve? just that it is the hatchback version?

if so, why the price difference is so much?
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 8 2014, 02:56 PM)
Leather seats
DRL
hill launch assist
electronic tailgate
17" rims
Android HU
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QUOTE(hafiz_tahir @ Jun 8 2014, 03:54 PM)
let me add more,

front parking sensor
6 airbags (compared to old stock of preve)
dvd player
17" rim with 7 spoke rim
ISOFIX
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SetsunaFSeiei Exia00
post Jun 9 2014, 03:24 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 9 2014, 03:21 AM)
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Thanks for that! notworthy.gif Sorry for being lazy. tongue.gif Are you using one? If so, what's your opinion about the car?
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post Jun 9 2014, 10:57 AM

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exactly first month of my suprima s.

here is my honest review:

1) Power is adequate for my liking. But im expecting more. Maybe 180hp range?

2) Fuel consumption in town is really terrible. but on highway driving, FC is good and acceptable.

3) NVH not so great on low speed. Maybe in future can improve or some forumers suggest to install sound proof or foaming. honestly i dont fancy this kind of stuff, but i feel it is essential to install sound proofing to my car.

4) HANDLING IS EXTREMELY SUPERB! HIGH SPEED STABILITY IS SUPERB TOOOOOOOO! NO DOUBT!

5) People tend to ask questions like " eh kereta apa ni? cantik la." or "kenapa saya tak tau proton ada kluar keta baru ni? " so please proton improve your marketing!

6) QC issues is standard from proton. But i dont care much as it has 5 years warranty.

Lastly, I really enjoy my Suprima S to the max. Never regret it. GO!
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post Jun 9 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(SetsunaFSeiei Exia00 @ Jun 9 2014, 03:24 AM)
Thanks for that! notworthy.gif Sorry for being lazy. tongue.gif Are you using one? If so, what's your opinion about the car?
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I am currently waiting the loan to be approved. The car is already ready to be picked tongue.gif
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post Jun 9 2014, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 9 2014, 11:35 AM)
I am currently waiting the loan to be approved. The car is already ready to be picked tongue.gif
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Me too bro...just sign agreement las friday...hopefully can get the car dis week....
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post Jun 9 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(paperclip @ Jun 9 2014, 11:48 AM)
Me too bro...just sign agreement las friday...hopefully can get the car dis week....
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What color u choose bro?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 9 2014, 12:02 PM)
*finger crossed*

What color u choose bro?
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Fire red as 1st choice then silver....

Blue really attractive, but too many blue SS otr, white need xtra care, black? No laaa..... Hehhehehe
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post Jun 9 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(serenum @ Jun 9 2014, 10:57 AM)
exactly first month of my suprima s.

here is my honest review:

1) Power is adequate for my liking. But im expecting more. Maybe 180hp range?

2) Fuel consumption in town is really terrible. but on highway driving, FC is good and acceptable.

3) NVH not so great on low speed. Maybe in future can improve or some forumers suggest to install sound proof or foaming. honestly i dont fancy this kind of stuff, but i feel it is essential to install sound proofing to my car.

4) HANDLING IS EXTREMELY SUPERB! HIGH SPEED STABILITY IS SUPERB TOOOOOOOO! NO DOUBT!

5) People tend to ask questions like " eh kereta apa ni? cantik la." or "kenapa saya tak tau proton ada kluar keta baru ni? " so please proton improve your marketing!

6) QC issues is standard from proton. But i dont care much as it has 5 years warranty.

Lastly, I really enjoy my Suprima S to the max. Never regret it. GO!
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1) what car are u coming from? Power is more than adequate. too high of an expectation from hearing turbo? just the cvt makes it feels dull...

2) town fc, i'm averaging 8l/100km in combined. town driving is more to driving manner than a car, sudden acceleration and stopping, for sure high fc.

3) hurrmm.. usually NVH is problematic during high speed with tyre roar, wind noise etc. maybe the engine roar ur saying?

4) that is non negotiable. heh
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post Jun 9 2014, 03:17 PM

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Here is the RM8k off for SS.

http://www.proton-edar.com.my/en/Promotion...x#promo-details

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post Jun 9 2014, 06:25 PM

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anyone have issue with reverse gear? when reverse into slope or hump its really....sux...
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I saw someone post earlier proton is offering great rebate? Anyone can provide more info which showroom/SA?
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post Jun 9 2014, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jun 8 2014, 10:39 PM)
Fortunate to have both cars.

Cerato has better interior fit and finish then Suprima. Cerato is for people who like to travel in comfort and win for rear passengers. FC town driving better than Suprima. Outstation about the same. I believe Cerato now comes with 7" screen. Mine still the 4.3". Also the Cerato I bought comes with 3 year free service/oil thingy. SS only now have. My SS does not have that free 3 year service.

Suprima is for people who want to get there fast. Rear passengers will suffer  laugh.gif The 1.8l Cerato is hopeless between 80km-120 km on B-roads (non-highway roads). Hopeless because the max torque at about 5k RPM. There is no way to overtake quickly in the Cerato. You need a huge distance to overtake cause you need to rev the engine to get to 5k RPM. Then when you do get that 5K RPM, your overtaking chances are gone. To make matters worse, the EPS is dull. No road feel. I wasted 30 mins total driving time unable to overtake which is annoying. Arriving 10 mins late (reported by waze is annoying especially since I claw back 30mins with same route using the SS). The turbo in SS is intoxicating. Even better since it comes at 2k RPM and stays there until 4k RPM before dropping a little. Max torque gives you lots of overtaking opportunities with lots of power to spare.

Which am I more satisfied with:
Daily commute-including jams: Cerato or SS. Makes little difference. Rear passengers will prefer Cerato
Outstation driving: SS

Which one more beautiful: SS>Cerato. Particularly rims. The Cerato front end tries to hard at imitating BMWs.
Rear end Cerato is better.

Interior HU: Cerato better. Actually Cerato has different layer bits, but the bits which you touch are the soft touch bits. SS has a good soft touch dashboard, but no use since my hand is not going to touch all the way to the screen. Cerato has better soft touch management. Though one part I hate about the Cerato is the steering wheel. Too big, too hard and the stitching at the lower left and right corners hurts my hands if I grasp tightly especially during cruising.  SS steering is miles better.

Coldest AC: SS is way cooler than Cerato. Cerato is better at temp management. SS seems to think the entire car needs to be the level you set before slowing down the AC. Cold AC is fine with me.

Aside from that I believe Cerato is better than Suprima. It is worth the price difference. Just don't buy it if you like to drive. If you stay at highway place all the time town driving, then it is a good choice. However, since the SS is RM20k cheaper but has slightly worse FC, I got extra 20k of fuel income to play with compared to the Cerato. I'm reserving part of that 20k to upgrade better HU and converting the rear end to twin exhaust...if R3 will come out a kit about it.
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Wow thanks a lot bro for the long and helpful review. So overall u satisfy with Cerato? Between SS and Cerato, which car gives u less headache?

In the end I think I will stick with Cerato. Coz afraid with the quality of Proton car. Must be sad if u spend lots of money to make loan for new car, but ended up need to always visit SC to fix the car.

QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 9 2014, 12:02 AM)
Not to be biased whatsoever, but NVH will be SIGNIFICANTLY reduced by foaming the chasis. It cost less than 1.5k for the whole package & can be done within 1-3 hours without voiding the warranty or anything.

It also will provide a firmer, confidences rides too in term of handling.

May I know if you consider that as well?
NVH is something that bugging to too before decided to opt for Suprima S. But upon reading, I found the solution that I just mentioned. That just somehow seal my decision laugh.gif
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Have u ever tried Cerato bro? Go try Suprima and Cerato on the same day. Then u will fell what I felt before, the premium feeling of driving Cerato. Yes u can try to improve NVH of the car, but it will just help a bit, i mean around 30-40% the most, in the end the noise will still be there.

This post has been edited by budak minyak: Jun 9 2014, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(budak minyak @ Jun 9 2014, 10:00 PM)
Wow thanks a lot bro for the long and helpful review. So overall u satisfy with Cerato? Between SS and Cerato, which car gives u less headache?

In the end I think I will stick with Cerato. Coz afraid with the quality of Proton car. Must be sad if u spend lots of money to make loan for new car, but ended up need to always visit SC to fix the car.

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You can find my longer review in the Cerato thread or somewhere in this thread.

Cerato is worth the 20k asking price, if you don't like driving or stuck in jams... Both cars give me no headache. I am one of the very few that got a trouble-free SS.

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Jun 9 2014, 06:25 PM)
anyone have issue with reverse gear? when reverse into slope or hump its really....sux...
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You just need to get used to the clutch based transmission. Don't burn your clutch please.
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QUOTE(budak minyak @ Jun 9 2014, 10:00 PM)
In the end I think I will stick with Cerato. Coz afraid with the quality of Proton car. Must be sad if u spend lots of money to make loan for new car, but ended up need to always visit SC to fix the car.
Have u ever tried Cerato bro? Go try Suprima and Cerato on the same day. Then u will fell what I felt before, the premium feeling of driving Cerato. Yes u can try to improve NVH of the car, but it will just help a bit, i mean around  30-40% the most, in the end the noise will still be there.
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har? why always need to visit sc? proton reject your case, void your warranty, no need visit sc liao lor. self DIY, fix yourself, outside workshop where it's cheaper and from people you can trust than shitty proton workers!

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post Jun 10 2014, 07:22 AM

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Just got my Suprima S yesterday. I am going to sound dumb asking this but how do I turn on the follow me home lights? Just leave the switch to auto?

Have not had a chance to read the manual properly yet as I've been really busy.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 10 2014, 12:07 AM)
har? why always need to visit sc? proton reject your case, void your warranty, no need visit sc liao lor. self DIY, fix yourself, outside workshop where it's cheaper and from people you can trust than shitty proton workers!

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True bro, somehow i think in certain situation warranty will fork out ur money most....Car breakdown, send to SC, need to wait parts, leave ur car, proton cant give replacement, so u have to use public transportation...

But mostly no prob la....proton i see easier to claim compare to perodua....
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5 days honest/short review..sorry my english..this review is my opinion only
-got my car on thursday..now 450km dy..drive up to 150km/h
-car still virgin, not 1 thing to do yet with SS
-drive certain 'god' car before.. whistling.gif so it s only car i can compare with

pro
-if my car before is 'god' then what is suprima..haha..my hghway drive better wit suprima. not always speedy, but i know the power is there when i need it
-all the thing in SS..which vios lack..i cant list all here. i really love the HU/gps unit
-handling..layah corner in country road i really love it..but still afraid to push it more
-kalau xde badge proton, i'm sure people will queue to buy it

con
-proton need to improve only 1 thing, REFINEMENT on the interior, got longgar-longgar 2-3 place,
-boot release, please change back under the driver seat
-got annoying sound with the speaker, its like the speaker cant stand heavy bass sound when i up the volume. everytime bass sound, i dn know how to put it here, its like small vibration at the back. nt really sure if its the speaker or something else..need to check back

Do I regret change to SS? Not even one bit. Glad i get the SS

1 more thing. I'm tired already to answer "u had vios..why change"

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QUOTE(mazannor81 @ Jun 10 2014, 10:48 AM)
5 days honest/short review..sorry my english..this review is my opinion only
-got my car on thursday..now 450km dy..drive up to 150km/h
-car still virgin, not 1 thing to do yet with SS
-drive certain 'god' car before.. whistling.gif so it s only car i can compare with

pro
-if my car before is 'god' then what is suprima..haha..my hghway drive better wit suprima. not always speedy, but i know the power is there when i need it
-all the thing in SS..which vios lack..i cant list all here. i really love the HU/gps unit
-handling..layah corner in country road i really love it..but still afraid to push it more
-kalau xde badge proton, i'm sure people will queue to buy it

con
-proton need to improve only 1 thing, REFINEMENT on the interior, got longgar-longgar 2-3 place,
-boot release, please change back under the driver seat
-got annoying sound with the speaker, its like the speaker cant stand heavy bass sound when i up the volume. everytime bass sound, i dn know how to put it here, its like small vibration at the back. nt really sure if its the speaker or something else..need to check back

Do I regret change to SS? Not even one bit. Glad i get the SS

1 more thing. I'm tired already to answer "u had vios..why change"
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Lovely, simple review! Thanks for sharing yours!

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