yeah but still they do a lot more dps than bards. about 15-20% more dps than bards and since casters do nothing else other than dpsing in coil, i really dont think bards deserve any nerfs tbh. its just that a lot of people suck at their classes

I dont want to be an ass but I agree with u. Sometimes I'm amazed that even I, a noob bard can do more dps than the blm even when i play ballad most of the time. I dont want to say that they suck. Its just maybe they have not optimized their rotation.

in PvP u probably need to keep away from BLM since they can swiftcast > deep sleep anytime. not to mention they have manawall and aetherial manipulation

Thanks! You are not noob. At least better than me hehe

Is it true they are taking away blood for blood from bards?

thats what the rumors are saying. which is, i dont know, it kinda sucks. its either that or internal release.

if they do remove b4b i hope they at least reduce the cooldown of raging strikes to 90secs or something to make up for that loss.

It's sad that SE listen to all the QQ about Bard damage without really properly looking into things. It's quite clear that all the QQ are from players that simply need to learn to play their class better.

Me and my friend been doing DF on all the Primal HM fight lately and we found that we are always the top DPS even against others with similar gear. The only time that we won't get top DPS is against someone who is vastly over-geared such as relic+1/allagan+myth geared DPS.

We queue as variety of classes such as Bard, Monk, Dragoon, Black Mage, etc and some are not even in full DL, but all have at least Relic.

SE need to remember Bard is a DPS class first, support second. The nerf is unnecessary considering Monk are getting grease lightning that last longer, Dragoon are getting buff jump, and even though BLM/SMN are not getting anything but a good BLM/SMN can out DPS all the other class easily.

yeah it sucks we're gonna lose 20% dps every other minute now that we're losing b4b

You have to admit though, having Internal Release, Raging Strikes, Blood for Blood, Hawk's Eye and Barrage seems a little much.

not really. have u looked at the numbers we put out? bards are 2nd last on the dps chart, we are only outdpsing dragoons at this point. once this patch hits, bards will effectively have the lowest dps among the lot.

Now other dps cannot make any excuse if they are still being out-dps-ed by BRDs