All inputs are welcome, regardless good or bad.
Of course, Arcanist related topics are welcome as well.
[JOB] SMN/SCH, Discussion thread for SMN and SCH
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Sep 13 2013, 04:41 PM, updated 13y ago
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Discussion thread for Summoner and Scholar.
All inputs are welcome, regardless good or bad. Of course, Arcanist related topics are welcome as well. |
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Sep 13 2013, 04:43 PM
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My first topic, for Scholar punya Selene fairy,
I really cant understand why the silence spell only last for 1 second. |
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Sep 13 2013, 05:04 PM
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Sep 13 2013, 05:08 PM
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Having trouble a bit keeping pet alive in Aurum Vale dungeon. the aoe thing from boss really hurts the pet lol
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Sep 13 2013, 05:11 PM
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oh? means the fairy will be clever enough to cast it during the enemy spell casting?
because can say most of the time i see the spell in cooldown, so i thought the fairy simply use it for no reason. |
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Sep 13 2013, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(athlonmax @ Sep 13 2013, 05:08 PM) Having trouble a bit keeping pet alive in Aurum Vale dungeon. the aoe thing from boss really hurts the pet lol For AV first boss, it is impossible to keep your fairy alive, just let her spam some AOE heal and let her die off, alternatively just swiftcast summon her back after she die but that will not be mana friendly. My advise is to let her die off and you take over her role for once as a true healer haha (if you know what i mean). As for the last boss of AV, Succor will put a shield on her as well and that will totally stop any dmg inflicted on her since the aoe dmg and the dot dmg from the boss is minimal.A lot of boss fight in FF14 will put SCH at a disadvantage over a WHM, no choice but to suck it up and move on QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Sep 13 2013, 05:11 PM) oh? means the fairy will be clever enough to cast it during the enemy spell casting? She should but note that her maximum range for auto casting is very much lower than what it seems. Notice she will only auto cast embrace at a shorter range but if you manually press the embrace, her range is the same as yours. So for her to auto cast anything, just go nearer to the target.because can say most of the time i see the spell in cooldown, so i thought the fairy simply use it for no reason. |
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Sep 13 2013, 05:27 PM
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I'm signing in as well, hope to have many happy moons as a SMN since that's probably what I am gonna stick to. Hope they buff it somewhat to kick BLM @$$.
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Sep 13 2013, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(marcus86 @ Sep 13 2013, 05:22 PM) For AV first boss, it is impossible to keep your fairy alive, just let her spam some AOE heal and let her die off, alternatively just swiftcast summon her back after she die but that will not be mana friendly. My advise is to let her die off and you take over her role for once as a true healer haha (if you know what i mean). As for the last boss of AV, Succor will put a shield on her as well and that will totally stop any dmg inflicted on her since the aoe dmg and the dot dmg from the boss is minimal. cool cool, maybe i should observe the range thing.A lot of boss fight in FF14 will put SCH at a disadvantage over a WHM, no choice but to suck it up and move on She should but note that her maximum range for auto casting is very much lower than what it seems. Notice she will only auto cast embrace at a shorter range but if you manually press the embrace, her range is the same as yours. So for her to auto cast anything, just go nearer to the target. not to mention the sunken temple first boss doom spell is a sure death for our fairies QUOTE(CloudDave @ Sep 13 2013, 05:27 PM) I'm signing in as well, hope to have many happy moons as a SMN since that's probably what I am gonna stick to. Hope they buff it somewhat to kick BLM @$$. It is always nice to have something follow you around. aside from chocobo and useless minions |
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Sep 13 2013, 05:40 PM
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I think most people look towards WHM for main heals, but I think SCH is underestimated for heals.
But, according to a WHM I played with recently, SCH's job in dungeons (especially primal hard mode fights) is to pre-shield / heal DPS and Sacred Soil. Since end-game hasn't exactly started yet, hopefully people will open their minds and realise that SCH is a pretty good main heal too. |
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Sep 13 2013, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(marcus86 @ Sep 13 2013, 05:22 PM) For AV first boss, it is impossible to keep your fairy alive, just let her spam some AOE heal and let her die off, alternatively just swiftcast summon her back after she die but that will not be mana friendly. My advise is to let her die off and you take over her role for once as a true healer haha (if you know what i mean). As for the last boss of AV, Succor will put a shield on her as well and that will totally stop any dmg inflicted on her since the aoe dmg and the dot dmg from the boss is minimal. Oh i mean running AV as SMN, never done AV as SCH yet. But last 2 run i went into as SMN, somehow my garuda managed to stay alive for the whole fight at the last boss.A lot of boss fight in FF14 will put SCH at a disadvantage over a WHM, no choice but to suck it up and move on She should but note that her maximum range for auto casting is very much lower than what it seems. Notice she will only auto cast embrace at a shorter range but if you manually press the embrace, her range is the same as yours. So for her to auto cast anything, just go nearer to the target. I had a glimpse of my pet position and saw her at far back at the entrance while dpsing, weird enuff didnt kena the dot from the boss. lol Yeah on first boss yeah my pet always died and usually re-summon back only once though.After that didnt bother to do it lol |
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Sep 13 2013, 07:04 PM
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so what stat you guys put on arcanist?
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Sep 13 2013, 08:37 PM
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just dump all on int lol..my summoner only have 5 points of pie..not sure i am doing it right but if u can manage your mana well with aetherflow and energy drain shud be ok
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Sep 13 2013, 08:54 PM
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either all to int or
all to mind and use cleric stance |
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Sep 13 2013, 09:19 PM
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arcanist can link cleric stance?
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Sep 13 2013, 09:31 PM
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Sep 14 2013, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(wicked_weeknd @ Sep 13 2013, 05:40 PM) I think most people look towards WHM for main heals, but I think SCH is underestimated for heals. As a warrior, I love SCH HoTs more than WHM big heals.But, according to a WHM I played with recently, SCH's job in dungeons (especially primal hard mode fights) is to pre-shield / heal DPS and Sacred Soil. Since end-game hasn't exactly started yet, hopefully people will open their minds and realise that SCH is a pretty good main heal too. |
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Sep 14 2013, 02:26 PM
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So the useful cross skills that SMN/SCH can use is from CNJ and THM only right? Stoneskin from CNJ and Swiftcast from THM?
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Sep 14 2013, 05:40 PM
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Those cross skills in DoW like not much useful to SMN/SCH.
So I can say get from CNJ and THM is the best. Especially that Aero and Thunder. Further extend our DOT amount xD |
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Sep 15 2013, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Sep 14 2013, 05:40 PM) Those cross skills in DoW like not much useful to SMN/SCH. I find stoneskin and swiftcast the best among the rest imho.So I can say get from CNJ and THM is the best. Especially that Aero and Thunder. Further extend our DOT amount xD How many of u guys done ifirit liao here? Gawd it took me like 2 days to finally drop my ifirit wep |
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Sep 15 2013, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(adam20 @ Sep 15 2013, 02:04 AM) I find stoneskin and swiftcast the best among the rest imho. ^ThisHow many of u guys done ifirit liao here? Gawd it took me like 2 days to finally drop my ifirit wep SCH really need to have Stoneskin & Swiftcast to make gameplay easier for them, not having them just means that you're going to be less viable , less as in still needed, but not as usefull as those SCH/SMN that has access to thier full potentials. |
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