REIT V5, Real Estate Investment Trust
REIT V5, Real Estate Investment Trust
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Sep 12 2013, 08:17 PM
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MGS continues dropping.
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Sep 19 2013, 04:10 AM
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Bond yield sharply drops.
Tapering? What tapering? You heard wrong. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 19 2013, 04:11 AM |
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Sep 19 2013, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 19 2013, 09:39 AM) kinda disappointing... local reits inching up snail pace while near another 2-4% gain for sgreits. sreit drop also faster, up also faster. fair enough. |
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Sep 26 2013, 05:37 PM
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Sep 26 2013, 05:54 PM
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Sep 26 2013, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(TanTartKia @ Sep 26 2013, 06:02 PM) anyone know how will US debt ceiling will affect mreit if US government do shutdown because of this? shut down? sounds like a miracle. anyway, if that really happens, market panic, all stocks will be sold down including reits and bonds i bet. That would be an excellent chance to pick up cheap stocks, so save some cash. |
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Sep 28 2013, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 27 2013, 11:08 PM) The name of the Trust will be changed from “Starhill Real Estate Investment Trust” to “YTL Hospitality REIT” with effect from the date of registration of the Restated Deed with the SC. Further developments will be announced in due course. I still don't know what DPU for FY14 I can expect from it, after its coming up exercise (RI? Private Placement?). And it's highly lack of information as there is no IB interested to write paper on it. Anyhow, I'm still holding most shares, only sold about 10% of my holdings for this uncertainty. This announcement is dated 25 September 2013. Let's hope the new YTL branding can bring this REIT to new heights... reach for the stars !!! |
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Sep 29 2013, 03:19 AM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 28 2013, 08:01 AM) i also cant find..YTL another VT style..keep secret? oh that 10% was sold many months ago loh when they announced the fund raising news at around 1.08. That was consider part of the process I cutting down REITs holding from close to 60% (at 40% cash position) to current 33% (11% cash position) of total profile. so after sell 10%..keeping cash..or allocated in other stock? This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 29 2013, 03:23 AM |
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Sep 30 2013, 03:17 PM
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Oct 2 2013, 04:52 PM
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today eat more pretending-reit KLCC....
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Oct 2 2013, 10:08 PM
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Oct 2 2013, 10:50 PM
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Oct 3 2013, 01:27 PM
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Oct 4 2013, 05:06 PM
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cmmt fell back down. GIC (Sg gomen fund) continues selling stake, while Amanahraya buying.
at current 1.51, FY14 net yield goes slightly above 5.5%. MGS continues gaining strength lately, yield at 3.5-3.68% (5-10 yrs). consider next year, interest rate may increase by 0.25-0.5%. |
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Oct 4 2013, 05:30 PM
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Oct 4 2013, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Oct 4 2013, 05:49 PM) got such rule Fed Chairman cant be sit by same person for more than 2 term ? not sure about that, but Obama has made himself clear that he sure want Ben to step down and use new blood.I visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chairman_of_the_Federal_Reserve .Alan Greenspan work very long... |
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Oct 8 2013, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 8 2013, 06:51 PM) For all retail REIT players... These are all valid points. Summary ... 1. M-Reit is not attractive with dividend yield of 5.1%-5.5% va MGS 3.98% yield. 2. Oversupply of new retail malls by 2015 will increase mall space by 28%. 3. Rental revision expected to below inflation or stay flat for the next 5 years due to oversupply of retail mall space. 4. CIMB recommend investor to STOP accumulating REIT as the price is NOT attractive, expect lower or flat rental revision & lower occupancy. 5. Current dividend yield not favorable for mall acquisition, yield of 6%-7% is currently the 'fair' value.. 6. As dividend yield rise, prices will fall accordingly to match the 'fair' yield. 7. Investors will get triple whammy, rising MGS yields, lower occupancy, flat rental revision...NOT a good outlook for retail REITs. Full article below... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Tricky part is, buying opportunity always appear during negative perspective. Where is the "sweet spot" of buying? Definitely not past 1-2 years when net yield reaching 4%, IBs still rate a Buy call. And we need to be really picky this time. Which REIT has STRONG growth potential in the next few years? That growth can neutralize (or even outperformed) MSG yield increment? You mentioned 6-7% yield, I think that's a good validation point for FY14/FY15. If a REIT believed to be able to provide this yield, and at the same time able continue to growth 5% pa on yield, it should still be a good steady income investment instrument. The most important criteria on sustainability income might be this two factor: High quality management + High quality asset class. I am currently quite comfortable with my 32% profile on REIT with net yield (via avg buying price) ranged from 5%-8%. However, if REIT rebound 10% or so in near term, I may continue to sell off another 5-7% and stops when reaching 25% total holdings. I agree with Gark that it is not a smart move to accumulate blindly at this junction, unless net yield reaches 6-7% with HQ management + HQ assets class. |
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Oct 10 2013, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(topearn @ Oct 9 2013, 10:27 PM) major criteria to pick your REIT: excellent management + excellent assets quality.as interest rate are likely to moderately increase in next few years, it's best to choose one with profit growth potential to protect capital depreciation. happy long term investing. This post has been edited by yok70: Oct 10 2013, 02:01 AM |
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Oct 10 2013, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 10 2013, 05:36 PM) Yes, this I agreed. I still think world economy is improving although at slow pace. Especially China and US. China is on right track to rationalize its growth pace, it's a bravo job so far. But bond yield just normalise back what it should be before the start of QE3. Bond yield rising doesn't must mean interest rate going up. Many people confuse on this part. Our gomen is cutting subsidize, this should be a continue effort in next few years. Inflation rising is just a matter of time and the speed of increment. To add the above two points, I still think interest rate will increase in future years in moderate pace. However, a big uncertainty is various countries QE effect. Nobody know what could happen after US and Japan etc. completely stopped their QE exercise. |
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Oct 10 2013, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 10 2013, 05:44 PM) Normalized bond yield for MGS should be about 4.5% to 5%. Means still got 50-100 bps to go... 100 bps to 4.5% (worst case scenario) is 22%. Meaning to neutralize capital depreciation on REITs, a 22% profit growth is expected by the time bond yield reaches that normalized level. |
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