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Tyre worn out in 4 months (7000km), what is wrong?
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TSchubbyken
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 Sep 11 2013, 02:15 PM, updated 13y ago
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i have just changed two new front tyre in mid Apr and have now run about 7000km, buy the tyre already botak! i just noticed that becasue that day it was really slippery. Any sifu can advise why they are so fast worn out? I did not have this problem earlier. I asked around, some said the tyre too new (they are 0813) and some said is car suspension or alignment issue. but i tot alignement will only caused tyre to worn out at one side? my tyres are like worn out entirely. I changed the break disc and break pads and the tyres at the same time during Apr. Could that caused the problem? I also changed the suspension 2 weeks before changing the tyres. need help. thx.  |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 11 2013, 02:17 PM) What car ? What tyre ? What size ? Driving style ? Waja and Good year. i think is 15in. normal driving style only. just drive to work and go home. no long distance. average daily ~50km. thx |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 11 2013, 02:22 PM) There is definitely something wrong. Is the tyre inflation correct ? Car alignment and camber settings ? Even with my hard style of driving, my tires can last on average 20, 000 km. Mind you, that is quite bad already . Applies to both my 18 inch tires on inspira and 17 inch on my 320i. inflation is the usual around ~31 pound. not yet check the alignment and camber but will it cause the tyres botak entirely? i tot it will only make it worn out at one side? really dont know what is happening. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(nap2617 @ Sep 11 2013, 02:22 PM) Tayar tiruan or tayar korek..wont last.. they should be tulin ones. but slightly new 0813. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 11 2013, 02:29 PM) Inflation sounds about right. You sure you got new tires and not some second hand refurbished ones ? What kind of tires are you using ? Should be those normal eco ones right ? 7000 is a bit much. Even going ulu yam every other weekend, couldnt kill my tires as fast as yours  they are Good Years. Should be new ones as they dont look like refurbish ones. Also the shop is a franchise shop tayar shop. Should be ok gua? |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 11 2013, 02:36 PM) Good year is just a brand. Whats the model and the exact size ? 15 / 185 / 60 ? These information should be on the tire itself. Whats your definition of botak ? totally no thread ? at 7000 ? Did you lend your car to a friend to do donuts ? >.< only i am driving the car. not sure about the types but is the normal waja 15in type. not totally no thread but almost. when you see it, you will say "you need to fast fast change tyres liao" that kind of worn out. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 11 2013, 02:50 PM) Suggest that u go back to the shop for an inspection. Tyres normally have a 3-yr warranty. If its bald within 4-mths of 7,000 km, something is either seriously wrong with your car or tyre. When u mean bald, pls clarify. Bald on left side, right side or centre. they both bold across left right and center, although outer edge slightly more bold. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 11 2013, 02:57 PM) Sounds like someone swap tires with him. ROFL. You using stock waja rims ? not original rim. changed rim before. but the back two tyres are ok by the way, i remember the current back tyres were from the front before i moved them to the back. they have been at the front for about 3 months and now they are at the back. looks ok. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(8lackheaven @ Sep 11 2013, 02:59 PM) IMHO, i think is nothing to do with your rims or car.. manufacturer defect.. every tyre company sure will have some defects on certain batches. try to claim back with warranty. QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 11 2013, 03:03 PM) If its across the whole type, it is most likely a manufacturing defect. Hope u kept your receipt. Claim for Warranty for new tyres i tot so. However when i go to ask opinion from other shop, some said not due to tyre but due to car. that is why i am confused. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(8lackheaven @ Sep 11 2013, 03:38 PM) some shop said so.. to prevent you from claiming from them.. as it will affect their revenue, business and image... put the blame on the car.. pfft yea right.. as a consumer, you have to stand firm on your grounds.. dont let this tyre shop ppl influence you too much.. believe only 20% of what they say. just claim back from goodyear... shoot a letter to them.. i am going back to the tyre shop this saturday to let them check. See what they say. Hopefully can replace new tyres for me for free. But I am not sure i want Good year any more... |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(8lackheaven @ Sep 11 2013, 04:55 PM) you can never go wrong with michelin.. yokos are good too.. cheaper alternative you can opt for neuton (subsidiary of yoko) made in indo. for me either go for michelin or yoko.. dont bother looking at others. i am thinking of michelin. but if they really replace the tyres for me for free, i guess they will only give me good year. maybe i can top up a little money and change to michelin... |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 11 2013, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 11 2013, 05:16 PM) Bro, what's your tyre size. You said u drive Waja Right using 15'. If its old Waja - the Cam TAK Pro - its 195 /55 / 15 Its its Waja CPS - its 195/60/15 If u are using 195/55/15 if u have cash to spare, why not take Michelin Pilot Sport 3 (PS3). This is considered as Performance Tyre. Else, u can consider Yokohama C Drive 2 (CD2). Good mix of Performance and Comfort. If u still want Goodyear take the Goodyear Directional 5 (GD5), peformance tyre. Other Brands taht u can consider - Hankook, V12, performabnce tyre that does not cost a bomb. If u use 195/60/15 less choices of Performance based tyre. PS3 is not available in this size but u can still find CD2. i think they are 195 /55 / 15. sorry i know very little about tyres. What is the difference between performance tyre and normal ones? |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 12 2013, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 11 2013, 08:50 PM) you can look at your tyre and the size is printed on it. Also the model is normally printed on it. Goodyear NCT5?? Goodyear GT3?? Goodyear Efficient Grip? Goodyear Assurance? Goodyear something? too new tyre will cause tyre botak???  what kind of statement is that. I think if alignment is too out, can cause the whole surface botak too. for example if your toe is very in like this /--\ Since you said you changed tyre (change 4 tyre?) and the back tyre are ok, then, sounds more like alignment problem to me?? they are Good Year NCT5. I am not sure now. tyre defects or alignment... |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 12 2013, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Sep 12 2013, 06:03 AM) bro, go your trusted workshop/alignment shop and check the alignment. maybe toe out already. toe out can makan quite lot of thread. btw, take a photo of the thread and let us see, maybe some sifu can judge here is one of the tyres Attached thumbnail(s)
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 12 2013, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 12 2013, 09:57 AM) Bro, your tyres really look like you do 'drifting' on Sepang Circuit. It looks totally worn out, like how my tyres looked like after I did like almost > 60K km. Its totally worn out like u said. You're sure the manufacture date is 08/13? If your shop refuse to honour warranty, consider going direct to Goodyear but do make sure that your alignment, suspension is also ok cos that's how these company try to find fault. Bro, I also used NCT5 before, there were good to me for 60K km / 3-years. After that, it looked exactly like yours. exactly, when i go for some shops and ask for opinion and they heard me say only run 7000km, they are all like "what the...". one of the them is 0813, the other one is 0913. my two tyres at the back are also NCT5. They were used at the front for 3 months plus before shifted to the back. and they are ok. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 12 2013, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(nestum @ Sep 12 2013, 01:41 PM) from my view , tire pressure low cos tire wear on both shoulder dont be so naive to claim back tire shop , u take a botak tire and claim new tire , what kind of business is this? btw , izzit possible u ald swap ur new tire to the rear? i pump gas to the tyres every month about 32psi. i changed the front tyres on Apr 2013. they are 0813 and 0913. the back tyres are 2612. no way the back tyres are the ones i changed on Apr 2013. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 12 2013, 04:47 PM
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i have been driving the waja for ten years and i know how long my tyres should last. i never have this issue out of these 10 years.
2 of my colleagues told me they have the similiar issue with GY although not as bad as mine. i should take thier advice.
i do not put much hope to get refund. just wanted to consult more experience guys whether have similar issue before.
This post has been edited by chubbyken: Sep 12 2013, 04:51 PM
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 13 2013, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Sep 13 2013, 11:18 AM) Do share what the tyre shop have to say after you showed them:) will do that. thx guys for all the opinion. by the way, GY just called me, they asked me to go to shah alam to let them check the tyres. but i no free laa. and tomolo i am going to tyre shop shop and change them already. |
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 13 2013, 04:07 PM
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i went to GY just now. The guy used some gauge to check and said material ok.
then lift up the car, see the tyres, although lef right center all worn out, but can see there are sharp edges on tyres (sorry dont know how to describe).
so he said the tyres seem more like sliding then rolling, so is kind of alignemnt issue.
thank you guys for all your sharing.
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TSchubbyken
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Sep 13 2013, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Sep 13 2013, 07:49 PM) Ya, I am going to the workshop tomorrow. See whether I can get something. |
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