boil water, traditional way safer

Does any body have better knowledge with Water Tank Storage type of Water Heater, safer right?

This post has been edited by ecin: Sep 10 2013, 04:49 PM

Yes that's safer but waste more electricity. Reason: you may end up heating up the whole tank of water before you could take bath and perhaps you only use a small fraction of the heated water in the tank. The remaining amount of water is kept in the tank and slowly dissipates away the heat.

? ? I almost want to say YA MA .

This post has been edited by skcJVN: Sep 10 2013, 05:10 PM

If the water come out from the shower is very slow or soft , yes , have to change the water heater. ( n it is a instant water heater n your house is at the top floor in a high rise apt . If terrace house u can change the piping to direct connect to the main water supply )

1. it's always strange that The Star never ever prints the names of cars or brands or project name when reporting unlike the other media

2. for the love of god, please buy some decent water heaters for your tenants and install it properly.

3. vengeful ghosts abound??

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013...thold-baby.aspx

PETALING JAYA: The Japanese couple who was killed after being electrocuted in their apartment in Mont Kiara left behind a six-month-old baby boy.

The baby now is being taken care of by the Welfare Department.

Brickfields OCPD Asst Comm Azlee Abdullah said the baby would be over to the couple’s relatives once they arrive from Japan.

“The family members are scheduled to claim the bodies and take the baby home,” he said yesterday.

He added that police had recorded the statement of the couple’s maid.

“The maid comes to the apartment daily to clean.

Safety tips for electrical water heaters chart.

“Our investigations suggest no foul play,” he said adding that the Japanese man was a factory manager.

Meanwhile, Selangor Welfare Department director Nik Omar Nik Ab Rahman said the baby was brought to the Rumah Kanak-Kanak Tengku Budriah in Cheras following the tragedy.

“We will cooperate with the police in handing over the baby to the parents’ relatives,” he said.

Meanwhile, five of the victims’ family members arrived at the Universiti Malaya Medical Centre’s mortuary yesterday evening to identify their bodies.

The four men and a woman who arrived at 8.20pm were also accompanied by three others, one of whom is believed to be a translator.

They left 30 minutes later after identifying their loved ones.

The bodies of the Japanese couple, both 38, were discovered by the maid who arrived at the 13th floor apartment at about 10am on Monday.

The couple’s apartment is situated at a block where the dismembered body of Singaporean businessman Goh Yoke Seng was discovered in a refrigerator that had been sealed with masking tape in July 2007.

A man who had bought the unit in an auction discovered the body when he went to clean the place located on the 19th floor.

The same apartment block was also the scene of a fire in which the son of a top police officer was killed a few years ago.

The 22-year-old son of former Commercial Crime Investigation Department director Comm Koh Hong Sun died after an explosion at their 32nd floor apartment unit in July 2009.

can make movie out of these three incidents

Top 5 reason why gas heater is safer (the one I used before in oversea)
1. The heater has over heating prtection, gas leak/carbon monoxide detection, fresh air discharge(prevent gas leak trap inside), water flow ignition (no water no fire), automatic timer shutoff (auto shut off after timer expired for forgetfull people), fire resistance metal/plastic housing and faucet.
2. You will be able to immediately discover if there is a gas leak (using your nose), but you can't sense a electric leak with your sensing organ unless it is too late.
3. It is easy to add in additional off the shelf safety features such as ventilating fan and gas and carbon monoxide detector, for electric heater it is only ELCB, which we already have.
4. If electrocuted, chances of fatality is high, compare to gas explosion in bathroom, chances of survival is high.
5. The amount of gas used in the bathroom even leak all if the room is not tightly seal is not enough to kill a person, but the amount of electricity that flow into the heater, a small leak is enough to kill. Mind you, all electric heater uses 30A socket where under Malaysia safety regulation it has to be kept out of reach from user, meaning it is a dangerous socket point. (A mere 50mA of electric current reaches your heart is enough to kill)

Bonus: If really damn sui everything go wrong and god is calling, gas toxication or explosion normally only claim 1 life, electric heater can claim many more, and it is proven.

This post has been edited by KLsooner: Sep 11 2013, 10:32 AM

Hmm..Feel so sorry for the family.

In US, there was a case the jury awarded the victim USd50 million for water heater death.

I hope the japanese families sue the water heater brand and the landlord too.

bro, turn it off before using. profit.

gas heater where to buy in Malaysia?

What brand of water heater anyone knows ?

There is no much details about how the water heater could electrocute someone. Shouldn't they investigate the ACTUAL reason for it, such maybe if the wire got overheated, melted and then shorted somewhere else or water was sprayed over the water heater and so on ... ?

Try Rinnai.

isn't the landlord a victim too?

If landlords r to guarantee the safety of all appliances then tenants ll hav to pay extra for the insurance coverage liao. How in world the landlord is liable to a branded appliance?

This post has been edited by ManutdGiggs: Sep 11 2013, 11:02 AM

The landlord could be sued because it is possible that he installed sub-standard and non-safe appliances in the house.

The heater manufacturer could get away by saying it's due to users negligence such as he sprayed water over the heater itself or he had tempered the circuitry.

That's why I say further details are needed before the faulted parties can be established.

As long as it's branded ones with proper approval, the landlord's ass should be covered. Problem might be what if the heater was not even SIRIM approved or without any brand ?

Wau , your explanation is very good . Actually U can bring those products to Malaysia n must be a huge demand base on your selling point coz difficult to get it in Malaysia

That's why in US, owner/landlord does take insurance to cover them from being sued. If i slip in my rented home and cause some spinal problem due to sub standard floor tiles, high chances you will win in US. There are even cases where if you don't shove your pavement during winter and your neighbour hurt himself walking in front of your house, you will get a love letter from his lawyer.

So, to malaysian landlord, if they install subpar water heater, then the arguement will be best left to the court.