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danmooncake
post Oct 1 2013, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Sep 30 2013, 11:42 PM)
Another con,
Subject to sudden change of withdrawal policy like 55 to 60 years old.
Max per year deposit amount is 60k only, to you maybe 'no meat' for such hassle.

I personally prefer those 5% after tax REITs rather than EPF, any winter melon and tofu happen to Malaysia economy, you can liquidate within 4 trading days. But it all depend on individual risk tolerance.
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True in terms of liquidity for REIT:

Con for REIT: It can goto zero value.
Pros for EPF: - your capital is peserved even with worst of times, the lowest dividend rate in all history..2.5% is guaranteed.

Lazy man investment method - just keep stuffing money into EPF, and withdraw only when you're truly in retirement age. laugh.gif

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danmooncake
post Oct 1 2013, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Sep 30 2013, 09:53 PM)
And best of all, if you are a worker, better to negotiate with your employer for them to contribute more than getting a pay rise as whatever is "paid" to you into your EPF is TAX FREE. For self employed, don't know if the tax free thingy applies.
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EPF tax deduction benefit is up to RM6K per year only but all future (retirement age) withdrawals and gains are indeed tax free so far.

danmooncake
post Oct 1 2013, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 1 2013, 09:43 AM)
Bro, I was talking about employer's contribution and not "your" contribution into the EPF account (which is true as you mentioned above). Think about it and you'll understand (if you pay income tax).
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As per 2012 regulation, employer's contribution is 12% on top of 11% for employee. But, I never heard of a loophole that KWSP allows employer to contribute more into the employee account and considered that in lieu of salary increase for them (as tax benefit). EPF contribution made by employer are essentially business expenses for them.

Do you know of any employer have done this for their employees? Does this work? hmm.gif


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post Jan 21 2014, 05:17 AM

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Anyone knows which bank allows you to open FD online without being present?
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post Feb 23 2014, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Feb 22 2014, 01:18 AM)
Top Goat,

Sorry I made a mistake. It is 6000+ members, not 1000+ members... paiseh  sweat.gif

Since you are interested, I retrieved my 2012 data about KWSP members' money
in their EPF accounts.

KWSP members: 12 million

(1) 6000+ members have more than a million Ringgit in their EPF accounts.
(2) 5.45 million members have less than RM 150K in their EPF accounts.
(3) 58K members from (2) who aged at 54 years old have approximately
    RM 140K in their EPF accounts.

Chairman of KWSP said, each retiree needs to spend at least RM 2000 per month
for their standard cost of living.

So, for those retirees who have only RM 140K in their EPF accounts, this RM 140K can
only last them for 5.8 years.
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The (1) 6000+ (mln) will do very well and no problem can live on their dividends only.
The life avg dividends of 5.5% by EPF is very good.

Yes, 140k by 55 - can be a problem. They have to continue to work (delay retirement)
and contribute more to their EPF. Otherwise they will have to live as minimalist till they die.

FD rates still cannot match dividends by KWSP - so no choice but people must keep more money in there or
till they force you to take it out.



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