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TSwheimeng
post Jun 4 2006, 02:36 PM

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yes, i'm aware that the talents that i need are in the senior post and they are definitely getting good pay. i have nothing but a challenging job and perhaps equity to offer depending on negotiation.

like i have mentioned, you are building a winning team with me, everything starts from 0, everything is based on consensus. if i'm ok, yea, we have a serious game going on, likewise, continue your agenda.

on salary part, i'm being honest again, for so many times, if you expect higher or same pay (not sure what's your pay), sadly to say, i'm gonna turn you down. but im quite sure, at least it should come near. afterall, it's a new start up, you cant expect too high pay. if your CV is up to my expectation, i can chat with you with no obligation you must build the team with me. but if you see the potential of it, i'm sure a lot people out there would join me for the vision that we share despite the lower pay in short-mid run.

as far as the winner you're talking about, i'm just 23 and managing my business while studying. in 2 yrs, i've got ultraunix.net to be ranked as 23rd in malaysia. i wont say its impressive but at least it marks as a milestone for me and definitely something to be recognized of.

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post Jun 4 2006, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(wheimeng @ Jun 4 2006, 02:28 PM)
credibility is one thing, idea is another. i'm in the hosting business but definitely not so much of an expert in networking. i've got a partner whom i can rely on in terms of programming (JAVA). as mentioned before, this system would be catered for hosting business and i've the network over in US  and frankly, few providers are keen in purchasing my idea if my system is out.

now, a winning team is what we called a balance, all around team where we have strong tech, sales and management team. being excel in any of that does not make you a winning team. i personally would say i'm strong in sales because i know hosting business well and tech is what i'm currently lack of.

so, let say you've developed this and that, you are brilliant but if you run out of great ideas especially when it's very hard to get new idea out in this new era with great market demand, sadly to say, VC would not invest in it, i wonder what were you based on for making that comment. you might have great tech but it is not deployable anytime soon or the market isn't ready to absorb it.

tech knowledge is an edge, eventually everything comes down to sales or i would say, they are mutually dependent.

so what i'm saying now, not arrogant but a fact, do you want to join a winning team or to build your own winning team? the latter is what we called employer and the former, 95% of the people out there, employee.
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QUOTE(wheimeng @ Jun 4 2006, 02:36 PM)
yes, i'm aware that the talents that i need are in the senior post and they are definitely getting good pay. i have nothing but a challenging job and perhaps equity to offer depending on negotiation.

like i have mentioned, you are building a winning team with me, everything starts from 0, everything is based on consensus. if i'm ok, yea, we have a serious game going on, likewise, continue your agenda.

on salary part, i'm being honest again, for so many times, if you expect higher or same pay (not sure what's your pay), sadly to say, i'm gonna turn you down. but im quite sure, at least it should come near. afterall, it's a new start up, you cant expect too high pay. if your CV is up to my expectation, i can chat with you with no obligation you must build the team with me. but if you see the potential of it, i'm sure a lot people out there would join me for the vision that we share despite the lower pay in short-mid run.

as far as the winner you're talking about, i'm just 23 and managing my business while studying. in 2 yrs, i've got ultraunix.net to be ranked as 23rd in malaysia. i wont say its impressive but at least it marks as a milestone for me and definitely something to be recognized of.
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1) Check your ultraunix web site. The demo id is not working..

2) To be precise, you are strong in selling at hosting business. You are NOT strong in selling. If you are really good in selling, you would have realize it like I do, you have NO SALES PITCH in your posting to get people to join you.

3) As per my comment on VC, I have friends working in VC and startups. My brother had started 3 companies in USA and sold two. I worked in this industry for 20 years. And, I am talking about American VC.

4) Okay. People will not be getting high pay and you will expect people to be talented. Now, what do people get in return of participating in your vision??

5) Winning team?? I know it when I see it. Other than that, I cannot describe it.

6) Idea?? I had seen too many great ideas with lousy execution and they failed. And, I had seen so so idea but they had great execution and they evolved into great idea. In general, for a startup, you need to have great sense to know what the market / customers is telling you. You evolve and surf with the wave. You change if your first idea is not working out.

7) Have you read the book "Crossing the chasm"?

Anyhow, I wish you best of luck. If you need my help, pm me.

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TSwheimeng
post Jun 5 2006, 02:18 AM

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1. midst of revamping site.
2. perhaps, but do get few responses.
3. well, not that i'm aware but it might be true.
4. like i said, everything is negotiable, equity or a structured salary
5. that's not possible to show unless we build it.
6. well, talked to few providers, and actually planned the releases and upgrades. but so far the idea has got good response.
7. read the "the soul of a new company" which touches marketing for high tech stuff.
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post Jun 5 2006, 02:19 AM

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anyway, what's your profession after commenting my posts. i wish to know more about you for you have got a lot of my stuff by now wink.gif

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post Jun 5 2006, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(wheimeng @ Jun 5 2006, 02:18 AM)
1. midst of revamping site.
2. perhaps, but do get few responses.
3. well, not that i'm aware but it might be true.
4. like i said, everything is negotiable, equity or a structured salary
5. that's not possible to show unless we build it.
6. well, talked to few providers, and actually planned the releases and upgrades. but so far the idea has got good response.
7. read the "the soul of a new company" which touches marketing for high tech stuff.
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1) That means you do not have a test server incorporated into your change control process. You did not test your revamping in a test server for a while and then roll the upgrade/revamping into production server. All it takes is a message saying that you are revamping and your demo id is not working now as part of your upgrade process. Do you have a well doucmented upgrade process??

6) In USA, if your idea is good and your creditability is good, the innovative provider/user may even willing to fund yourt venture and be your beta users.

7) "Soul of a company" is not on my reading list. Try "Crossing the chasm", "Innovator dilema", "Seeing what's next".

QUOTE(wheimeng @ Jun 5 2006, 02:19 AM)
anyway, what's your profession after commenting my posts. i wish to know more about you for you have got a lot of my stuff by now wink.gif
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Unix system administrator, IT System Engineer, Database Application developer, Network Engineer, Telecom software engineer, Sales manager, product manager are among the jobs that I worked before.

I do not believe in profession. I believe in track record and capabilities. Can you sell, market, manage product development, manage people, give advice, design network, design software, business development and so on?? Had you done those things? What is your track record in doing those things?

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post Jun 5 2006, 10:24 AM

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oo, sounds marvellous biggrin.gif

well, in terms of designing tech stuff, i've got no experience at all but i've written out a detailed business plan which play a base as a guideline for me and amend over time.

perhaps we can talk about this? anyway, i'm going thru a Malaysia VC, not American.

 

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