Anyone currently working in this path ? Mind tell me more about what u normally do in the company and more about HR. Salary. etc .. Thanks.

This post has been edited by jdreamer: May 30 2006, 08:34 PM

No one work in HR team ?

all I know is... I HATE the HR dept in the place I worked

i am a HR application consultant.
considered?

hmm HR ppl know the salary of other employees right? who determine their salaries and increments then...hmmm

Is HR very hatred by other departments? My fren told me that she is working in a marketing dpt but the allowance and incentives always been cut-down while she send up the claim form. I can see that she is very up-set with it as what she wrote in the form is the true amount. For me, i believe marketing is a central for a company, without it, where HR comes from? as they bring in business. (hehehe... revenge for my fren)

emm... all human resource ARE evil!

HR only manages the employee's salary, claims, leave etc.. but mind u, decisions are made but top level management. so dont always blame HR. as most of the users i train are HR executives, so i can conclude that they're authorities are quite limited. cheers

This post has been edited by GiNgEr^fIsH: Jun 2 2006, 10:27 AM

hmm... i undertsand that.. but let's say u r standing at the mktg side, ppl keep rejecting ya claim... very sad rite? people paid for what they contributed but kenot get any $$$ back frm the company... isn't it sad and demotivated?

HR dept does more than salary, recruitment, etc
It's about managing people in the company - from A-Z i.e. from hiring to firing.

HR Management is a wide scope - hiring, firing, claims, employee-welfare, benefits, training, disputes, etc etc
Try to google 'HR Management' and you will find the scope..

True, however a lot of companies use the HR department as the evil arm. Top level management will always say things the workers want to hear but when it comes time for bonus or increment or adjustment, its the HR department that does the dirty job of under cutting the employees. Its a smart strategy, management will always smile and say nice things but when it comes time to talk about money, HR is the one that does the dirty job. In fact, in some companies the KPI of HR executives are how well they can squeeze the employee.

HR are not evil dept.

what they are doing is actually looking after the benefit of the company and personnel.

claims that are cut probably not all work was done after checking by the HR or amount being over claimed.

HR does alot of things like the HR Exec. i hired. She frequently updates the job description + job function of my whole office.

discuss with me on recruitment and promotion policies. calculate the productivity of my workforce. Salary is a definite. they are integral part of the company. solves quite a no. of my worries.

hope this helps

you got that right...
Human Resource Department is not really looking after the employees but employer... can't blame them lar, who pays their salary? The company mar not the staff... that is why HR Dept is always hated by employees in the company... natural thing mar.

So if you wanna be HR, be prepared to be hated lor.

Itu semua asam garam kehidupan!

although ppl hate the HR ppl, but they are treated friendly. because a lot of ur applications like medical leaves and annual leaves need to go through them...

so they might give u a hard time if you piss them off

Isn't medical leaves automatic once you have the MC for the doctor? And isn't annual leave should be approved by the respective manager? In my companies, claims go through finance and not HR.

So basically, the HR is pretty much useless in my company. They just screen through resume and give the particular manager a bunch of resumes to look at and the manager will tell them who they want to call. But since HR know nuts about technical skills, most of the time they cannot even pick the right candidates to shortlist.

Example: Manager says want someone well versed in Unix. Hence, a candidate which have tons of experience in Linux is not considered because the resume does not have the word "Unix".

This is just what I overheard from my manager

Im actually heading for HR course, and will be working in HR dep. like in 5 years time. So, I'll be hated soon.

yes.. yes.. everybody hates HR personnel because they delay employees pay cheque. . but pls give them a break because they got tons of payroll to deal within a week.. it is not easy to handle because i'm in that line now and i know how it feels

Mind tell us more about job ?

like everyone said on previous posts, HR handles interviews, hiring, payroll as well as sacking. it depends what level are you in. it is not an easy job especially on payroll because you have to make do on both sides (employer and soon-to-be employee). at times, you need to get things done soon (hiring) because a department need people in there. all in all, i can say it is quite challenging job.

That sounds pretty interesting. Exactly what my interest is. Looks like I didnt choose the wrong course.

one advice: please drive an old car whenever you're about to sack someone. just for safety precaution, if you know what i mean

btw, if you get bored of ur company, you could become a headhunter too

This post has been edited by goliath: Jun 7 2006, 03:35 PM

What do u mean by that ?

Headhunter is something like Manpower or Kelly services. Search employee/worker for your client

coz something 'might' happen to your car
so its safer to drive an old car whereby the things that might happen to it might not hurt you that bad

Owh, okie. Now, I got it. Btw, mind to tell us how much is ur salary ?

Yea, I know that.

Oh yeah, for headhunter, when you successfully close a deal, you'll get commission too. as for my pay, I'm a small f@rt in my company. I'm just helping out coz I don't really consider myself as a HR Executive. only RM1,700 . (btw, this is my temporary job )Anyway, work your way up. Interesting yet stressful job. That's how I know through my sister

This post has been edited by goliath: Jun 7 2006, 03:58 PM

Ur sister ? She's a HR personnel too ? Wow, HR family.

she quit her post and became a headhunter. . it's good to have someone working in HR because you could ask anything regarding contracts and law and bla bla bla .. heheh..

Does headhunter's salary is higher ? Hmm.. btw, where did u graduated ?

well, it depends on how much experience you have. you will get a basic pay + commission. so, based on experience, if you're good/vast experience under your belt, you could handle big deals (such as hiring manager for antother company etc...) . me graduated from uk.

Owh, okie. Thanks for all these useful informations.

just work your way up to manager post 1st.. then only consider the headhunter option.