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siauann
post Jun 1 2006, 12:10 PM

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here's mine smile.gif
siauann ~ Pentium 4 2.4C @ 3.0GHz ~ CM Hyper 48 w/ vantec 92mm ~ Idle 37/38°C, Load 49/50°C

@sHawTY
i like ur temp..was wondering wat fan u use it on ur hyper 6...its rare to c prescot on such nice temp... wink.gif i like it...ur full load only 4º difference wif idle...so nice ler...btw those full load temp is got frm priming test? mine is frm priming... notworthy.gif
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post Jun 1 2006, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 31 2006, 01:39 AM)
Hey guys, have some stupid question here...
Does different motherboard produces different temperature to the processor?

Ok, here the story:

Me and my brother uses the same processor that is, Pentium 4 3.0E thumbup.gif

Ok, my brother uses his 3.0E while in an ASUS P4P800-X and the temperature he achieved in stock speed in idle mode is 33°C cry.gif

And i've use the same 3.0E with an ASUS P4C800-Deluxe and the temperature i've achieve while in stock speed in idle mode is 36°C... vmad.gif

We've used the same heatsink, that is: Hyper 6+, the same casing: Cavalier 3...

What could have cause the different in the temperature huh everyone?
Mind to give me your opinion? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 31 2006, 01:53 AM)
The one that i've post earlier is the temperature that is under stock speed...

Me in stock speed:
3GHz : 36°C Using Hyper6+

My Bro in stock speed:
3GHz : 33°C Using Hyper6+

What could have cause this diferrences of temperature? sweat.gif
Could it be b'coz of the differences of motherboard? icon_question.gif
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i thk u wont hv same temp even tho u put in same mobo... sweat.gif
i thk its the thermal paste...u cant apply same amount n same spreading on evry proc...jz my opinion...feel free to correct my point...further more different batch of proc i guess..
anyway i do thk tat ur prescott temp is good ler...under 40ºc idling....i tot prescott oways the hot ones....even my northy no match wif ur temp...izit cz of ur hyper6? or the fan? rclxub.gif
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post Jun 2 2006, 03:35 AM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Jun 2 2006, 03:03 AM)
Got some new air cooling solutions want to share with all....

before: TT Bigwater SE + TT Aquarius II VGA Block (At 1600rpm for radiator)
CPU: 32-40
GPU: 53-63

After:TR Si-120 (1100rpm)+ AC Accelero X2 (Ati Tool at 36%)
CPU: 24-30
GPU: 50-58
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omg... shocking.gif ur temp so coooool....in aircon room ka?
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post Jun 2 2006, 03:16 PM

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whrs the threadstarter? no update one ka? sweat.gif
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post Jun 17 2006, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(RIGmaster @ Jun 16 2006, 01:08 PM)
The Best Cooling System i ever Had !!! INTEL STOCK COOLING !!!!


P4 630 3.0GHz at 3.4GHz With INTEL Stock Cooling HSF Only Reads About 32 celcius Idle and 42 celcius Load ! Remember , my room do not have any Aircond , But i have 3 12CM Fans and 2 normal fans in my casing !!!

The Best Record , 27 celcius Idle !!! while raining outside my House !!!


Unbelieveable ? Beleieve it ..
My friend saw it and get Shock with the performance in my Home .

Anyway Get 86Frame Per Second with my Counter Strike Source Video Stress Test with my 650Mhz Overclocked x1300 Gpu and DDR400 System RAM ... All Voltage are Stock and all gone very well ...

Believe me , if your casing is not cool enough , You cant get My result on Air Cooling !!!

The Need of Big HSF ? No Way , I tried it before and get 35celsius Idle and 48 at LOAD with the same environment . (Cooler Master Hyper 6+)

Usually Crowded Casing and Lack of air flow is the Main "HEAT " Issues here .

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yeah..show some pics of ur casing n oso the screenie of the temp.... wink.gif

btw @threadstarter...ur loads temp is nice ler... icon_idea.gif

jz wanna ask u guys here...does big typhoon performance n hyper 48 differs a lot?
thking of gettin big typhoon tongue.gif

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post Jun 19 2006, 06:32 PM

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630 is prescott and 631 is cedar mill..cedar mill is much better smile.gif
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post Jun 25 2006, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 20 2006, 02:28 PM)
I've seen one...
And it's quite good...

Some aussie bought a Pentium 4 631, 3GHz (Cedarmill)
He overclocked it to 3.8GHz...

And it's voltage just took 1.4Volts...

The same voltage for my precott in stock 3GHz...  thumbup.gif
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i'v seen cedar wif quite high oc....seems like its quite an oc-able proc brows.gif
btw shawty...hw u got tat nice temp...im curious la...cz ur idle n load temp jz 4ºc difference...wat fan u use? smile.gif
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post Jun 26 2006, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 26 2006, 07:08 PM)
Which one is better in Voltage consumption and heat production?

Cedar Mill or Smithfield?  blink.gif
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cedar mill is 65nm core... smith is 90nm core wic is prescot + prescot = dual core (smithfield)
i believe cedar mill had better heat emission n low voltage consumption smile.gif
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post Jun 26 2006, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 26 2006, 08:27 PM)
Nanee?
Where do you know that Smithfield is Dual Core prescott?  shocking.gif
If it's true, think about the heat produce by it...

One core prescott: It's hot!!!  mad.gif
Dual core prescott: DAMN FREAKING HOT!!!  vmad.gif

Don't they produce Dual Core Cedarmill?  wub.gif
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aduh doh.gif
u knw tat the 8xx series is smithfiled core n its frm prescot + prescot
and the 9xx series is the presler core n its frm cedar mill + cedar mill
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post Jun 27 2006, 12:03 AM

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if ur bro can do tat make sure u share wif us tat stuff tongue.gif
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post Jun 27 2006, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Jun 27 2006, 11:35 PM)
i agree but then i think some ppl oredi did cooling for everything else... nothing left to cool?  laugh.gif
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tat one for hardcore one...haha laugh.gif
btw shawty...
u stil hvnt told me hw u got tat nice temp for ur prescot ler... sweat.gif

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post Jun 28 2006, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 28 2006, 05:53 PM)
Owhh...
Sorry for that...

Haaa...
How do i get that?
Using hyper 6+ with a thinnest layer of AS5 and a super mirror shine base of the hyper 6+...
[At the highest speed 24/7] (Damn noisy) Wakakaka  laugh.gif
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oh.....super fan izit...no wonder lar wink.gif
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post Jun 29 2006, 08:03 PM

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thermaltake tt pipe 101 wil perform better or the cm x-dream III?
some ppl says tat full copper hsf need a gd strong cfm fan to get good results...
does this means tat cm xdream III will perform better thn tt pipe 101? unsure.gif
cz x dream III got copper core case n surround wif aluminium blk..
anyone? unsure.gif
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post Jun 29 2006, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Jun 29 2006, 09:07 PM)
The spacing between fins in the TT is quite close safe to say it needs a good cfm fan... but it looks cool and you got the freedom to stick whatever fan u want on it too

The dream 3 looks pretty standard HSF but the fan looks a little bulky. Theres a long debate on copper vs alum, but I still think copper would be better ... personally i'd get the TT and stick a nice silent fan on top, I think dream 3 is sort of a stock hsf replacement only... (since its thermal resistance is 0.4143)
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thx for ur info..actually i consider tt silent pipe top wif my vantec 92mm fan.. tongue.gif
wat do u mean by thermal resistence 0.4143?
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post Jun 29 2006, 11:37 PM

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does this means tat tt pipe is stil better in conclusion? wink.gif
i did post this is recommendation thread n aaron reckon me x-dream due to copper + alum.. unsure.gif
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post Jun 30 2006, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 29 2006, 11:59 PM)
Hey siauann...
X dream is not good loo...
Seriously, it can't even support my 3.0D [My old skool processor]...
At a whopping 43celcius...
Why do you want that heatsink so much?  blink.gif
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WELL..i tell u soon...haha..lolz laugh.gif
43ºc??? i dun thk tat high..cz previous ksking got a low temp..i did claim frm some x-dream users on their intel platform tat thy get good results...im not sure bout tat...thy might bluffing me or its the fact.. unsure.gif

QUOTE(Vervain @ Jun 30 2006, 12:09 AM)
all hs need high cfm to moderate the air temperature to be similar to the hs (faster heat exchange) but generally copper needs a high pressure fan to run even more efficient compared to alu. such fan can be found on most high speed rpm. why is pressure so crucial? most of the fans out there can easily achieve a high cfm, but to get that much of air being squeeze in between the fins, you need the fast fan to squeeze the air through it.

coppers are great and a small copper hs perform as efficient as those bulky alu fans. for me its a no no for copper. mainly coppers are fan dependent, if you're ocing your pc at high clock speed. consider the heat generated is high. In the event of fan breakdown. the hs will have a sudden increment in heat. as mention. copper has lower specific heat. so they generally stores less heat thus heat rises. if you're lucky, the overheat protection from the mobo will shutdown just in time before the processor gets fried.

alu's my choice la. since it can perform fanless e.g si-120 and xp120. i think its the plus side. ofcourse it can't achieve a higher overclockable ability for the processor. but i'm willing to play on the safe side. In addition, alu hs are easy to clean and they don't oxidize like copper. cleaning is also a breeze since you just need to clean with water and soap. copper? clean the dust then celup inside coke to clear the oxidized parts. they can't be exposed to water. on the long run when you're tired with the noise of the cpu( getting deaf), you'll start to go for quiet hs.

i too will choose x-dream. copper and alu makes a good pair. one sucks the heat out faster while the other dissipates heat out. perfect duo just like ninja.
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thx for the nice info... notworthy.gif

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 30 2006, 10:48 AM)
So, the thing you're saying here is that the X dream III is good?  rclxub.gif
So it means that Aluminium + Copper is good for dissipating heat?
Just wanna ask, what about my Hyper 6+?
It's base is copper, the heatpipe is copper and the fins is aluminium, is it good too? sweat.gif
Need some answers here... rclxub.gif
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hyper 6 is alum fins ka? i tot is fully copper...haha...
well...of cz its good lar.. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 1 2006, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 30 2006, 06:49 PM)
I'm using a hyper 6+ not hyper 6...
Those two heatsink is different in their fins...

Hyper 6 is full copper...
Hyper 6+ have a copper base while it, fins are made from aluminium...  thumbup.gif
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sry lar..jz one missin + only..haha tongue.gif
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post Jul 1 2006, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(Freak` @ Jul 1 2006, 01:12 AM)
once ive used tt tower112 + tt orange fan ( dont know the fan name ) .. its too noisy .. i cant sleep if my pc is turn on .. like i said .. its like having a helikopter inside my house .. sweat.gif

now using si-120 + tt blue led .. thumbup.gif

Freak`
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the tt orange ones and the blue ones got any difference ka? wink.gif
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post Jul 3 2006, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(lactose_operon @ Jul 3 2006, 08:01 PM)
dude...1200grit shud be fine, or u can do finishing lapping with 1600grit...if u wan the mirror finish, then polish the hs surface with brasso...
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polish wif brasso...tat will cause the base cover wif layer of brasso rite? i mean like wax or smthg..dunno lar..i used to polish my bmx bike wif brasso n whn i contac wif water it looks like the bike hv been covered wif wax...the water stays together..... tongue.gif
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post Jul 5 2006, 10:20 PM

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gosh..thn i guess any idling temp below 40º is consider good lor..
well...seems shawty pc's load temp got problem...guess he dint stress it.. tongue.gif

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