tbh, i dn feel the lens are worth it. handphone camera is supposed to be point n shoot oni...no need be so complex..i more looking forward for SmartWatch 2

seems like Z1 only superior to ZU in terms of camera-related functions, and screen size? if so, I am still good with my ZU hahahaha

on side note, since I got a lot of removable tattoo from the recent screening of The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones, I decided to deco my phone with it and overlay a screen protector on top.

came out pretty nice

loads of ahem medias...XZU is multimedia beast ma.. with nice display pair with bluetooth speaker, those 64gb contents really fully utilize my free time and...i lazy delete stuff XD

i must've missed the word 'capture' back then XD but well, same hardware, capable camera sensors. just matter of the availability of codecs (which is possible to be add in, the hard way of course) isn't it? or i'm missing something?

I think it can capture (Snapdragon 800 supports 4K video capture) with the right firmware tweaks.. but then for capturing maybe you're right coz it will take huge memory power and the slightest OOM will make the capturing fail. how i wish it's 3GB ram in XZU

true that sony is a little late but this year Sony is very aggressive with its Z lines. I see a bright future in the effort and i'm satisfied enough for now (although still envies the camera on Z1 )...maybe 2nd half of next year will consider another beast, hopefully with S1400 chipset and 3gb ram as baseline for high end beast

i am not (yet) obsess with 4K recording, really. I'm merely stating that it is possible to do so on XZU with the right customization. so chillax cowboy, i'd get a proper camera if i am obsessed on camera features. for me phone camera is always a on-the-go thing, can't expect a top-notch image from such small image sensor no matter how good the camera app is

S800 clearly states that it supports 4K video capture . therefore it just the matter of tweaking with the software. and hold your horses with your assumption that I wanted a camera phone. Read carefully and don't put weird accusation.

did Samsung mentions the use of special chip to process the 4K capturing? Note 3 could've taken 21MP photo too coz S800 supports it but it can't because it is using 13MP camera sensors and that's a hardware constraint. here's the trophy. I rest my case.

If you prefer to debate on this, mind give me your sources saying that 4K support requires more than just a firmware tweak on the supported chipset? need a dedicated image processing chip also like HTC One's UltraPixel camera?

I am giving example on which features are constrained by more than just chipset support. I am (again) saying that it is possible to enable the 4K video capture on the device by tweaking something in the firmware but you just don't understand it. I don't mean that we have the tweaks ready, but instead I'm saying that it is possible because once the chipset supports the feature and there's no other hardware requirement for capturing the video at 4K that ZU lacks of (unless you got source say "note 3 able to capture 4K video because of S800 paired with xxx hardware/yyy Android version which made it possible").

As you might have known, the photos taken from the camera got better in the current firmware than the firmware it is originally shipped with. Image processing is software algorithm, sensors are just receiver. The manufacturer will decide what to give in the firmware because they have various reasons like who would need 4K video capture feature, do they have the codec to bring the update, will it affect firmware stability, etc. but doesn't mean u can't customize the features with custom roms if u have the knowledge to do so.

my view is strictly as an opinion saying that the feature is possible and can be made available into the phone with the right tweaking on firmware level. and u peeps takes opinions way too seriously.

thanks for the kind response, this is exactly the information needed for a smart discussion. I hope iFixIt can do a device teardown on Z Ultra to clarify the matter.

well, yea~

yes. do read the first page to get most of the basic info for the device

backup TA is for those who wanted to unlock bootloader to meddle with custom firmware/kernel-level tweaking.

TA partition needs to be backed up as it contains the key for Sony-priviledged features such as X-Reality, OTA update etc. since all those features will be limited upon unlocking bootloader.

For rooting, not rly necessary to unlock bootloader. the provided steps are safe enough, for now.

yes, Samsung devices are very different in many ways (even the hard key to capture screenshot) but the terms used are basically just "advanced" but it's easier to use Sony devices and fell in love with it.

This post has been edited by thatisazam: Sep 7 2013, 11:49 PM

can anyone double confirm this? prolly vRoot has updated their rooting method to match .510 without us having to downgrade to .475 first

same here. but i also realize it only behave that way when the waterdrop is warmed by the screen

at least in your case, the 'feature' doesn't reply your whatsapp messages itself

here's a tip, format ur 32GB card to exFAT instead of FAT32

FAT32 is a no go. All 64GB cards are by default come with exFAT i think

ahh...then i got nothing left to suggest...it worked on my 32gb class4 kingston micro sdhc the other day

This post has been edited by thatisazam: Sep 10 2013, 12:03 AM

well, one thing i like about XZU is that it's the best phone to use with Waze XD