Problem 1: Multi-Touch Interference
The click button is hidden under the actual touchpad. When you are not clicking, the space where the button is, is used as the touchpad allowing for movement.

The problem is while you are moving the cursor around with one finger, and you use another to click, occasionally it will register as a multi-touch input instead of a click.

Example would be accidental opening of the side charm bar, or zooming/rotating.

Bearable Workaround 1: Disabling the Multi-Features
You can disable the side charm bar/zooming etc, so that does make thigns more bearable.

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Problem 2: Sensitivity Part A
Note: This issue is only for users who use high sensitivity. Aka 50-100% marker.
The sensitivity of the touchpad causes two issues. The first is, it does not detect small movements well, either that or, it does not translate small movements well.

The problem is obvious when you try to make very small movements, and I am talking about movements like trying to draw a circle of 1-2mm in size on the touchpad with your finger.

How does this affect your usage?
When using the touchpad trying to click on small icons/links/checkboxes etc.. or even trying to move the cursor to correct mistakes when you're typing.

Work around? None. This is the one that's irking me at the moment. While disabling palm detection, maxing out the sensitivity does give a smoother illusion, the problem is still there. BUT.. this is only an issue for users who use high sensitivity. If your sensitivity is at the 1-30% marker, you won't notice it.

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Problem 3: Sensitivity Part B
The touchpad is hit and miss on the issue on multi-touch gestures. You have options of having two fingers tap etc to perform shortcut tasks. I set two-finger tap as my middle mouse button. This worked well on the GE40, but on the GS60 it's unreliable.

My suggestion, go and try it out. See if you can live with it or not. Look at your usage. For me, I do use the mouse on it a lot, but it's one of those where when I start using the touch pad (in situation where using a mouse is not really possible), it will irk the daylight out of me.

I am very sensitive about these kind of things and can pick up these small details. Many people are okay with it. For me, I find it unacceptable mainly because it's a RM6,000 +/- machine and to have a touch pad of this quality.

For the record, I had no such issues with my GE40. Of course, the GE40 has its own buttons to click, so that already rules out a lot of the issues with sensitivity. But even though the pad is smaller, it's also more sensitive.

Edit: Sensitive as in it is more sensitive with detecting the smallest of movements accurately.

This post has been edited by Areas Elysian: Apr 29 2014, 07:53 AM

I'm a user of Logitech mice, loved them, the software that comes with it, and the Hyperscroll... I won't go for a mouse without one.. Kinda sucks that the new G602 doesn't have hyperscroll or that would be the near perfect mouse for my laptop..

Razer, do your research first. Look at the Razer thread here on LYN. I didn't do any, but from the brief view I had of their thread, a lot of people were complaining recently about their mice giving problems from not being able to charge to drivers stopped working etc...

Can you guys give more information as to what you tried on?

So far I've only tested Space Engineers on the GS60, but that was with the goal of trying to keep my power consumption down. The test for for almost an hour using my old GE40's 90W adapter. I can't imagine having to lug that huge ass 150W adapter everywhere. Haven't had much time to do anything. I'll give WoW a go later tonight to test for stability.

Oh.. Hmm.. Can't help you then since mine's the GS60.

I would assume for that to be something bios related. Either that or the firmware on the GPU.

I know OT a bit, but it will help other users who are looking at laptops anyway since they'll most likely be looking for wireless mouse to use on the go.

What do you need out of your mouse? What is your current one?

For me, there is one mouse that almost fits what I am looking for. The Logitech M602. The only thing that's stopping me from immediately buying it is the fact that the wheel lacks hyperscroll as well as side tilt.

Why I am so attracted to that:

Lots of buttons. A big must for me.
Logitech's trusted design, I find their mice really comfortable.
Wireless & Gaming Grade
LONG battery life. As in REALLY long, for MONTHS...

I was using this for a while last time:
http://www.logitech.com/en-my/product/7108?crid=7

But found it a little too small for my hands. Ended up using a wired mouse. Still have not found one that I like yet. With MSI laptops really need to get a mouse to use. Their trackpad sucks so badly.. on the GS60 at least.

I cannot tahan until I bought a Logitech T650 wireless touchpad.. I'll give my review on that later when I test it out.. just got it today.. LOL.. You hear that MSI? Your RM 6000 laptop needs to get 3rd party touchpad to use.. -.-

The older GE40 uses a 760m, a 55w GPU..

I wonder why they went with the 850m (40w) as an upgrade when it could have easily accommodated a Maxwell 40-45w 860m and gotten a much better gain in performance.

If I remember correctly, the GS70 Stealth Pro has 2 issues. One, the screen is TN panel. Up to you if you can stand that or not, but it's a good TN panel still mind you, just not on the near perfect level of IPS panels. Second one that I've seen arise often on forums etc, are users reporting graphics problem, unable to run 3D games or crashing etc.

For those who want a cooler/quieter and less power hungry system (and are not interested in full performance)..

I've dropped the multipliers by 2x across the board on the GS60 as well as the dynamic cpu voltage. (Meaning 3.2ghz turbo boost)

End result.. without running on Turbo Boost, stress testing all 4 CPU, total TDP is averaging at 22W, spiking at 24W.

Very happy with the results so far. Temperature even better, at a steady cool 60*C average.

With Turbo Boost on the same stress test, TDP usage jumps to around 36W average, spiking at 38W. CPU temperature is at a warmer 74*C average.

Now to mod the vbios to undervolt it.

vbios update, mine couldn't take the -75mv mod, it would crash frequently. Not sure if it's due to the vbios mod or something else, will need to troubleshoot.

870m, lagi worse.. LOL

Will need to test tonight. My 150W adapter is at home. Using 90W at work, won't be able to fire up any games. Upped it slightly to -50mv.

What I need is to figure out a way to force the 870m to run in Battery Mode.

Plugged in total power draw for me hovers at 80-90W with spikes to 100-110W. This is too much for my current 90W adapter to handle.

Running on batteries, it won't spike above 60W at all.

If I could get the Cooler Master USNA 120, then I will have no issues at all. But oh well, as it stands currently, not possible to find it anywhere.. That aside...





Gigabyte P35W V2 looks yummy with the 75W battery inside. GS60's 55W doesn't last long.