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mikonito
post Sep 2 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Sep 2 2013, 12:31 PM)
I usually do this :

1) Pull mob with shield lob.
2) Start with savage blade for first attack, usually in dungeon, when pulling one mob will result in 2 or 3. (I have tanked up to Haukke Manor, not yet tried the rest).
3) Flash when the other mobs surround you.
4) Another savage blade on main mob.
5) Start rotating Savage blade on the other 2 mob.
6) Comes back to my first mob, savage blade again.
7) Another flash for insurance (Especially if you have archer in the group, they do damage real fast)
8) After that it is pretty much tank depending on situation....

I also have a habit of moving to the next mob, when the main one has less than 10% health. I start building enmity on the second, so when the DPS comes in i don't lose it.
That is just me, i suppose at high level, tanking may be totally different....

Btw, if you read the tool tip of the skill only Savage blade have additional enmity generation. Fast blade is just regular attack. So it is worth while to spam savage blade at the start to get enough hate on you...
I also agree on this, from the few dungeon i am tanking in, i have come to the conclusion that flash skill hate does not stick. It is a one time enmity generation, which loses it value over a period of time. So best to stick in a few savage blade to make it stick.
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If you mean high lv dungeon, ifrit hardmode, usually paladin with be offtank so can use stun to interupt ifrit skill haha.
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post Sep 2 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(mikonito @ Sep 2 2013, 11:47 AM)
If you mean high lv dungeon, ifrit hardmode, usually paladin with be offtank so can use stun to interupt ifrit skill haha.
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Oh you mean those AOE effect skills? Since i only have Shield Bash now, i use that for interrupt, but it appears not to be 100% effective. My only gripe is Shield Bash share same cooldown as the rest of the skills. So sometimes when you need it, it is on GCD.... mad.gif

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mikonito
post Sep 2 2013, 12:07 PM

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yeah thats why in ifrit hardmode, paladin job just to stun, so he will normal atk all the way.
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post Sep 2 2013, 12:56 PM

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Paladin 37 reporting in. Currently all the bonus stats points I have not distributed it yet. I'm torn between adding Vit, Dex or Str. I got mixed responses when I ask people.

One camp says to apply all points to Vit because we have good damage mitigation skills but low HP pool compared to Warrior.

Another camp says to put the points into Dex and Str for higher and more effective block and parry which will mean higher Effective HP (EHP) so it doesn't matter that our HP pool is low.

Sigh decisions, decisions...
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post Sep 2 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(mikonito @ Sep 1 2013, 09:54 PM)
Finally i start playing my Glad after maxing my bard. I just start tanking in dungeon which seam hard because taunt share global CD with other atk skill, kind of kill the fun :/. any tips on tanking in dungeon? skill rotation ect
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Ahh.. that always made me wondered why they stand around long time sometimes.
But it is true depend on situations, for normal mobs my party usually sleep all other mobs and kill one by one (only applicable on mobs that are not resisted so its advised to focus first mob that is resisted). This will fail if someone does aoe if mobs are together.

At higher level white mage gets a skill to reduce enmity towards self and i find it helpful when they come after me from healing so it doesnt stress the tanker too much but its cd its a bit high.

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mikonito
post Sep 5 2013, 07:37 AM

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i meet lot of bad tanker @ lv 50, thou there is a good tanker know what he should do. It force me to abonden my bard and playing Paladin now. Some tanker when boss spawn add nvr care to taunt add and hope cloth and leather user to tank and kill add by them self, and what most, after 2 wipe they just leave like nothing happen :/.

Btw while doing Amdor Keep i meet some imba tanker with AR + 1 shield here the ss.

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I think i start concentrate to lv my paladin to lv 50 now, just to tank lv 50 dungeon @.@
mugenz
post Sep 5 2013, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(mikonito @ Sep 5 2013, 07:37 AM)
i meet lot of bad tanker @ lv 50, thou there is a good tanker know what he should do. It force me to abonden my bard and playing Paladin now. Some tanker when boss spawn add nvr care to taunt add and hope cloth and leather user to tank and kill add by them self, and what most, after 2 wipe they just leave like nothing happen :/.

Btw while doing Amdor Keep i meet some imba tanker with AR + 1 shield here the ss.

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I think i start concentrate to lv my paladin to lv 50 now, just to tank lv 50 dungeon @.@
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what the fark, nice shield. 181 shield strength and chance.

speed skill +7 lol~
onibaru
post Sep 5 2013, 02:41 PM

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What do tanks prefering?

A durable healer (less running away like a headless chicken) or big heals healer(wah mobs... Cabut)
deyamato
post Sep 5 2013, 03:04 PM

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stopped playing like 3-4 days , and finally last night unlocked paladin lol .
bansai
post Sep 6 2013, 02:37 AM

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My rotation seems quite different when tanking

Mark Target
Shield Lob
Flash a few times to collect adds
Fast Blade
Savage Blade
Continue flashing + FB,SB + occasional shield lob to regain loose mobs and adds.

by using flash, your tendency to lose a mob is quite low but sometimes overzealous healers might pull one away

good results but i tend to change my rotation when the situations needs, like i see a big heal coming, i pop conv, and when i see my heals running low on MP, i start strafing around like a mad dog to give my heals sometime to regain MP, pity the DPS that got to run around following the boss though tongue.gif
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post Sep 6 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(mikonito @ Sep 5 2013, 07:37 AM)
i meet lot of bad tanker @ lv 50, thou there is a good tanker know what he should do. It force me to abonden my bard and playing Paladin now. Some tanker when boss spawn add nvr care to taunt add and hope cloth and leather user to tank and kill add by them self, and what most, after 2 wipe they just leave like nothing happen :/.

Btw while doing Amdor Keep i meet some imba tanker with AR + 1 shield here the ss.

user posted image

I think i start concentrate to lv my paladin to lv 50 now, just to tank lv 50 dungeon @.@
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post Sep 7 2013, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 6 2013, 02:37 AM)
My rotation seems quite different when tanking

Mark Target
Shield Lob
Flash a few times to collect adds
Fast Blade
Savage Blade
Continue flashing + FB,SB + occasional shield lob to regain loose mobs and adds.

by using flash, your tendency to lose a mob is quite low but sometimes overzealous healers might pull one away

good results but i tend to change my rotation when the situations needs, like i see a big heal coming, i pop conv, and when i see my heals running low on MP, i start strafing around like a mad dog to give my heals sometime to regain MP, pity the DPS that got to run around following the boss though tongue.gif
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Mine is abit weird biggrin.gif hahahaa

2 mobs, A & B

A - shield lob B - provoke coz two different CD can do instantly.
A - Fast blade

then flash just to refresh B just incase some smart DPS go aim it doh.gif

A - Savage Blade

Flash again. To hold aggro of B

A - Rage of Halone biggrin.gif
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post Sep 7 2013, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(mikonito @ Sep 5 2013, 07:37 AM)
i meet lot of bad tanker @ lv 50, thou there is a good tanker know what he should do. It force me to abonden my bard and playing Paladin now. Some tanker when boss spawn add nvr care to taunt add and hope cloth and leather user to tank and kill add by them self, and what most, after 2 wipe they just leave like nothing happen :/.

Btw while doing Amdor Keep i meet some imba tanker with AR + 1 shield here the ss.

user posted image

I think i start concentrate to lv my paladin to lv 50 now, just to tank lv 50 dungeon @.@
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Vanish
post Sep 8 2013, 02:29 PM

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Gladiator Lvl 22 checking in!

I'm still noob in this

I added 4 point to str and rest of the points to vit...

Using tanker in PS3 controller is not fun at all!
Still learning how to switch mobs flawlessly within my controller sad.gif

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mikonito
post Sep 9 2013, 09:05 AM

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My Paladin @.@. Finally level 50. Now traning to become good tank in dungeon.

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post Sep 9 2013, 09:28 AM

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I will need to do more dungeon run, don't think my tanking skill is up to par yet. sad.gif

I need to find out ways to get solid hate on the aggro meter, so my team mates don't get a wallop.

My main problem up to this point is hate on the aggro meter, not sure if it is me or not, when i am attacking a mob my team is attacking another resulting in the monster running all over the place.... lol.

I really need to find ways to gain some solid footing in the hate list. Any seasoned tank can opt for some insight?

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post Sep 9 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(mikonito @ Sep 9 2013, 09:05 AM)
My Paladin @.@. Finally level 50. Now traning to become good tank in dungeon.

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oi.. lu tak payah kerja ke? lol

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post Sep 9 2013, 09:43 AM

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Madgeiser ur ok already just need to be more paying attention

In say large group of monsters

Always mark your monsters first

Say mons1, mons2, mons3, mons4, mons5

Open by shield lob mons1
If other mons not yet arrive to ur flash range, use fast blade on mons1.

Then once arrive all mons on u, use flash.

Then us ur full combo on mons one, fast blade>savage blade>rage of halone. Ofcoz if u already open fast blade then continue savage n rage of halone.
Then use fast blade on mons1
Change target to mons2 savage blade
Change back to mons1 rag of halone> fastblade
Change target to mons3 savage blade
Change target to mons4 rage of halone
Cahnge back to mons1 fast blade>savage blade
Change target to mons5 rage of halone.

Flw marked pattern should be fine can use flash in betweeen the combo i arrange or provoke even.

@vanish

Go tp character configuration> filter > off the rnable cycling target, on enable customization

In dungeon just use L1 + O for enemy target

This post has been edited by shojikun: Sep 9 2013, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(mengdez @ Sep 7 2013, 01:39 PM)
Purple I suppose the best item in game?
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How he get the +1 o.O
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post Sep 9 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Sep 9 2013, 09:28 AM)
I will need to do more dungeon run, don't think my tanking skill is up to par yet. sad.gif

I need to find out ways to get solid hate on the aggro meter, so my team mates don't get a wallop.

My main problem up to this point is hate on the aggro meter, not sure if it is me or not, when i am attacking a mob my team is attacking another resulting in the monster running all over the place.... lol.

I really need to find ways to gain some solid footing in the hate list. Any seasoned tank can opt for some insight?
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read my post above, always always marked your target with sign

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