RX100 was that price back then

Didn't know QX100 has focus ring until i saw this video...
Nice job Sony...

Too bad i cant control the shutter speed...

Yup too bad no full manual setting. I forgot check can set ISO or not.

Reporting in the Z1 thread for further updates.

This time round I wasn't anticipating for the new Note, in fact this Sony seeked my attention.

The moment when someone is able to root the Honami, most likely I will say bye bye to my Note 2s

Hmm, how come? what makes you fall in love with z1 but not note 3?
Note 3 features are quite impressive tbh.

I think the price will be higher than Z rrp (when it is first launch), no thx to weak depreciating ringgit...

I hope I'm wrong

This post has been edited by psyeo: Sep 6 2013, 01:18 AM

I was comparing both phones with my current Note 2s.

What I liked on the Note 3 over my Note 2:

Higher PPI
Slimmer, Lighter, Faster
Brighter screen

What I deemed unnecessary:
4k video

What I am doubting:
Can the battery life trump my current Note 2 with the 100mAH extra juice.
Will the dev community will be as large as the N7100 (N7105 is pathetic), if possible like the S/S2/S3/S4

What I liked on the Z1 over my Note 2:
Shutter button
1/2.3" CMOS sensor vs 1/3.2" CMOS censor
Awesome screen (as proved by the XZU)

What I am doubting:
Can the battery life trump my current Note 2 with the 100mAH extra juice.
Will the dev community will be as large as the N7100 (N7105 is pathetic), if possible like the S/S2/S3/S4
If no one is able to root this device, I will refrain from buying it.


adding on to my post:

Note 3: 60fps at 1080p
3GB of RAM, how to fully utilise?

This post has been edited by ((Xa))0102: Sep 6 2013, 01:20 AM

One thing I suspect that gives the Note 2 its awesome battery life (other than the fact that it's 3100 mAh), would be the fact that it's underpowered.

Inside the Note 2 are basically the processors of the Galaxy S2, which is an older slower CPU/GPU setup.

With the Note 3/Z1, they're both up to date high end CPU/GPU running at FullHD..

As for note 3, I think the battery life will definitely be better than note 2. If note 3 carries on the greatness of note2, I dont see why there won't be a large dev community for it.

Anyway, as for sony. It will definitely be root-able. Battery life i dare not say, have to wait for reviewers, but sony do have the stamina mode which will preserve battery. If you are not using the phone, your battery will hardly drop.
As for the dev community, I always notice that samsung community will be bigger due to more samsungs sold compare to sony. So there will be more choices on samsung than sony i think( for roms,kernels etc).

Also, I've noticed that from the forum of xperia z/htc one/s4 in xda, htc one have the most active thread followed by s4 and xperia z is the smallest one.

Another thing, don't you miss the ability to swap batteries on samsungs? You can't do that on sony.

Z1 smaller,higher mp camera,prettier

Note 3 bigger,New SPEN,3GB Ram

But honestly, I didn't see any different of 2gb and 3gb. I will go for Z1 or bigger Xperia Z Ultra

Well, the more the better i guess. More future proof.
Also, with that much features in touchwiz and the ability for multitasking will be needed heavily, 3gb ram is needed i think.

Yea, I notice a thread in xperia z xda forum where the guy undervolted his proccessor as well as some tweaks and got 6 hours of sot. which is quite impressive.

So maybe can undervolt to save juice?

I don't have a habit of using spare batteries .

XZU lacked flash, didn't got it because of this reason.

Xperia Z with the battery life performing similar as the S3, 6 hours is quite impressive. Undervolting does not reduce battery consumption significantly, however the phone will run cooler, since Lithium batteries are afraid of heat, therefore it might last longer. This is based on my experience and my understanding, do not take it as professional advice

S3 on ARHD + Perseus kernel, undervolted, underclocked to 600MHz, WiFi mode, lowest screen brightness already getting 6 hours on a single charge.

it has the new snapdragon 800. wait till someone got hand on it and try the battery usage

dev support ?

its sony! they even ask you to root it!

Doesn't rooting any of the current Sony phones cause a loss of the TA partition and therefore loss of the Bravia Engine and X-reality? They ask you to root by handing them your IMEI and tracking that you're rooted therefore out of warranty....

I could be wrong.......was it the bootloader.... but rooting a Sony seems to have more steps to avoid messing things up than a Samsung.

This post has been edited by joytest: Sep 6 2013, 01:52 AM

Rooting a S3/Note 2 generation Samsung only takes 30 seconds

That was the bootloader.Once unlocked, you will lose bravia engine. And yes, root can be quite tedious at times.


He's the TS from note thread, he should know that best.

i think unlocking the bootloader officially would make u lose all of that and even the warranty. but at least they provided a safe way to do that. if one is incline to do it. a lot of device dont even have that option.

rooting would not. so far by using sony, i think rooting method availability is quite fast. i think by 4.3 sony would. run pure AOSP. personally, i think sony is doing a morally correct implementation with android their device are cheap and beautiful. so thats why i love them so much.

as for note 3, i think samsung use a proprietary usb connection that compatable with normal usb but may support device or docking stuff.like the S4,its an improvement but nothing revolutionary. as for the company, i think little by little they are becoming more and more evil like sony onces were.

Yep, he does know his stuff pretty well.

Agree on the improving open-ness, it is a good thing.

No, Samsung Note 3 is a bog-standard microusb 3.0 connector. Since the standard is backwards compatible with USB 2.0, you can plug in your current microusb cable into the micro-B section of the connector.

See Note 3 post 2 and you will understand.

The only evil is by necessity due to corporate security requirements, for the Knox implementation of SELinux. I do not have enough details yet.

Old processor of Galaxy S2..??
Oo..mangg.. S2 use dual cores..Note2 quad cores