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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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post Sep 20 2013, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Sep 20 2013, 06:57 PM)
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awesome explain... will added on S4 thread...
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post Sep 20 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Sep 20 2013, 06:26 PM)
According to one girl name Erica Griffin (you can google her up. her reviews and explanations on details are really based on her on research and measrements and not from internet available information)

Right, according to her, AMOLED actually has more accurate colour gamut compared to IPS screen

What happened in previous Galaxy phones was that Samsung had deliberately oversaturated the colours. So when people say Galaxy S3 is oversaturated, they're right, but it's not AMOLED's fault, it's the software's fault.

But since Galaxy S4, Samsung had leave the colour meters "more natural" on the colour gamut, according to the results of the colour meter measurements done by her.

Now, on the LCD, the colour gamut is actually narrower than the colour gamut on AMOLED (the wider the colour gamut, the more accurate the colour is according to true colours that human eyes can see). If LCD on natural colour meter mode were to put side by side to AMOLED, it will look as if LCD is undersaturated.

So what most manufacturers do was, they try to emulate AMOLED screen by oversaturating the colours! This is done by deliberately adjusting the colour meters to a more saturated ones (LG G2 according to her colour meter measurements), or by deliberately adjusting the gamma output put make it more saturated (HTC One and Z Ultra). Oversaturating means no more accurate colours, because at some more you will see too dark, and some part you will see too bright compared to the original colour.

So actually what we consumers see as "Good Colour Quality" is actually over saturation of colours, except Galaxy S4 and Note 3 and perhaps newer Galaxy series. Manufacturers found out we actually like oversaturated colours. We can say we like more natural colours but the moment we like what Triluminus or HTC One display, that's actually over saturated colours.

But the downside of AMOLED is that it's not suitable for heavy users, as the screen will degrade overtime due to how the sub pixel works and it's not preventable, according to her.
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In contrary, the same reviewer said that Sony XZU Trilimunous display capable of producing slightly wider range of color compared to other display types, on her review on XZU.. If I recall correctly from her video that I watched.
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post Sep 20 2013, 08:26 PM

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My V2 sudah kena delete la, if reached 2.5k post can you help me request to open back the v2?
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 20 2013, 08:26 PM)
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My V2 sudah kena delete la, if reached 2.5k post can you help me request to open back the v2?
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can start V2 already now
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post Sep 20 2013, 09:02 PM

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planning to switch from note 2 to this babe~

there is a forumer selling at rm2810, pre-ordering
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post Sep 20 2013, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Sep 20 2013, 06:26 PM)
According to one girl name Erica Griffin (you can google her up. her reviews and explanations on details are really based on her on research and measrements and not from internet available information)

Right, according to her, AMOLED actually has more accurate colour gamut compared to IPS screen

What happened in previous Galaxy phones was that Samsung had deliberately oversaturated the colours. So when people say Galaxy S3 is oversaturated, they're right, but it's not AMOLED's fault, it's the software's fault.

But since Galaxy S4, Samsung had leave the colour meters "more natural" on the colour gamut, according to the results of the colour meter measurements done by her.

Now, on the LCD, the colour gamut is actually narrower than the colour gamut on AMOLED (the wider the colour gamut, the more accurate the colour is according to true colours that human eyes can see). If LCD on natural colour meter mode were to put side by side to AMOLED, it will look as if LCD is undersaturated.

So what most manufacturers do was, they try to emulate AMOLED screen by oversaturating the colours! This is done by deliberately adjusting the colour meters to a more saturated ones (LG G2 according to her colour meter measurements), or by deliberately adjusting the gamma output put make it more saturated (HTC One and Z Ultra). Oversaturating means no more accurate colours, because at some more you will see too dark, and some part you will see too bright compared to the original colour.

So actually what we consumers see as "Good Colour Quality" is actually over saturation of colours, except Galaxy S4 and Note 3 and perhaps newer Galaxy series. Manufacturers found out we actually like oversaturated colours. We can say we like more natural colours but the moment we like what Triluminus or HTC One display, that's actually over saturated colours.

But the downside of AMOLED is that it's not suitable for heavy users, as the screen will degrade overtime due to how the sub pixel works and it's not preventable, according to her.
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What she said is completely correct.
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 20 2013, 08:47 PM)
can start V2 already now
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Not yet 2.5k
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post Sep 20 2013, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 09:03 PM)
Not yet 2.5k
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Reached 2.5k don't close first, asking shockk to open first
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 20 2013, 06:06 PM)
Accurate? Note 3 from what I see all has hints of blue in all those picture. And the screen I'm using to view has been colour calibrated. All the photo of the girls etc, they look like smurfs..
Note 3's speaker faces the hole/grill directly, and isn't waterproof.

Z1's speaker has the hole/grill on its side, and also has an extra layer over it for waterproof. Will always be a disadvantage here.

Edit: Looking at the photos, I don't see the note 3's speaker being at the back, but instead is at the bottom as well, so you may ignore my statement.
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You can deny it, a lot pro tester had mention S4 is the most accurate color when you choose professional mode in screen mode setting. Note 3 no doubt will following.
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 20 2013, 09:05 PM)
Reached 2.5k don't close first, asking shockk to open first
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Recreate la. So susah what for. Just recreate and inform me, then I close current.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 20 2013, 06:30 PM)
For everyone else:

Google Image search for "AMOLED Burn In", without the quotes.
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A lot people know that, is not a big matter.

Most people change phone every two years.

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post Sep 20 2013, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 09:10 PM)
Recreate la. So susah what for. Just recreate and inform me, then I close current.
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Ok then, create now or?
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 20 2013, 09:16 PM)
Ok then, create now or?
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post Sep 20 2013, 09:28 PM

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one of the good things about Z1 is the speaker definitely louder than the Z. the 2nd thing is there is audio jack.

good work Sony!


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post Sep 20 2013, 09:32 PM

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V2 created! Sorry ya Andrewtst for the earlier create as tomorrow no time

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry63325795
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 20 2013, 09:16 PM)
Ok then, create now or?
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Can also. PM me once you done.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 09:41 PM)
Can also. PM me once you done.
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dont close thread fist, copying
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 20 2013, 09:43 PM)
dont close thread fist, copying
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 09:46 PM)
Ok. Wait on you.
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post Sep 20 2013, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(un_id @ Sep 20 2013, 08:15 PM)
In contrary, the same reviewer said that Sony XZU Trilimunous display capable of producing slightly wider range of color compared to other display types, on her review on XZU.. If I recall correctly from her video that I watched.
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nothing contrary here. It's true she said that, but she also said AMOLED has wider range than Trilimunous. She only said Trilimunous has slighter wider colour range than other LCD.

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