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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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post Sep 5 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Sep 5 2013, 10:45 AM)
sorry wrong quote... lol

but for discussion matter. pentile is irrelevant when it is already full HD or more than 400 ppi. you can see pentile unless you use microscope  smile.gif
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yeah... with such high resolution. it might not matter anymore.

well, on paper, both Z1 and note3 looks promising. now just wait for those tech reviews, then we can tell how's the performance of Z1 and note3 in practical
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Sep 5 2013, 10:54 AM)
Xiraltiy you can check S4. iinm they are using pentile display too but you wont see any pixellation  smile.gif

really interested in Z1 but i still dislike the display panel... still have poor viewing angle
triluminous display is gorgeous but on a lousy display panel which contribute to poor viewing angle
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triluminous display already solved the poor viewing angle problem.

you can check out the XZU thread for more info on this matter
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post Sep 5 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Sep 5 2013, 02:01 PM)
erm.. but personally not super strong to say 4k video shooting is necessary la.. but of course its a plus if it is included.. coz 4k video shooting confirm super big size.. if i want to upload a friend birthday video with 4k shooting about 5 minutes.. should be gonna crazy with 1gb size probably..
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u've got a point here... i remember taking a 1080 video, not even 1 minute. wanted to send it to my parents thru whatsapp... file size too big!!! rclxub.gif

have to set resolution to vga and retake the video and then resend...
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post Sep 5 2013, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 5 2013, 03:55 PM)
Ok pictures time laugh.gif



Sad to say the picture look crappy with 8MP due to Sony famous heavy compression. 20MP look good though




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u mean all these pic u using Z1 to capture at 8mp?
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post Sep 5 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Sep 5 2013, 05:18 PM)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/05/sony-...ware-revisions/

check the Z1 camera quality.. whihc i feel really good for a smartphone
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usually, most smartphone camera have no problem taking good outdoor picture. it's the indoor pic that's difficult to capture using a smartphone camera.

hope to see some comparison picture with other smartphone like XZ, HO, S4 and even Note3.
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post Sep 6 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(reijikageyama @ Sep 6 2013, 04:33 PM)
i just said it looks OOF laugh.gif

definitely waiting for more hands on review even though i confirm getting it. still an upgrade from my current phone
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yeah... from these review, the camera definitely under expectation. but still like to see some comparison with current phone in the market like XZ, S4 and HO.
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post Sep 6 2013, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 6 2013, 04:44 PM)
too bad then. Use burst mode or just keep spam shutter since it is 0 shutter lag
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i tot XZ already can take many many photos (unlimited as long as yo keep pressing the shutter button until your memory full) and save in memory. why no more this function in XZ1?
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post Sep 7 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 7 2013, 05:14 PM)
Nokia 1020 is better in camera.

But Windows Phone make it not worth to decide anymore. For me, I feel Nokia 1020 only good in camera. That it.
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no doubt 1020 have the best camera. but still due to WP8... not in my list at all

still waiting to see comparison pic with other andriod phone
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post Sep 8 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 7 2013, 11:18 PM)
Thin bezel make the screen look bigger.

Bezel too thick will eventually affecting viewing and it look smaller than it suppose.
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well, at first when i saw those leak blurry pic, i too tot it looks terible with the thick bezel...

after seeing clear hi-res pic, it looks much better than i initially tot. some said the extra bezel is to accomodate the larger 1/2.3" camera. if this is true, have to sacrifice some to gain some la...


well, still need to get a hands on to get the actual feel of the phone itself.
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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 7 2013, 11:18 PM)
heavy = solid feel ?
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yeah... i tot so too... too light give me a feeling of hold a toy phone...

that's y i don't really like samsung phone. they make it light and with plastic. it's actually good in the sense that it's easier to hold with the light weight. but plastic+light weight makes me really feels like holding a toy phone. no solid feel at all...
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post Sep 8 2013, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 8 2013, 02:46 PM)
But a lot upgrading it as well, also a lot waiting to change to Z1 after knowing Z Ultra screen is awesome right? hehe...

Now see how well Z1 on sales.

I believe it not going to sell as hot as Z anymore.


  • People hope for better screen - no more. only viewing angle, not everyone cares

  • Better design than Z - not really. subjective... the more i look at it, the more i like it, waiting for demo unit

  • Better camera - maybe yes maybe not. not really into photography. + point if it's better of course

  • Better spec - this is the only solid point for buying now. definitely top of the line now


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bro, i think this is just your personal view la. not all share the same view as u did here.

well, for current XZ user to upgrade to XZ1, i can understand it will be not so worthwhile. the same goes to any other brand actually. people using the last gen model tends to feel reluctant to upgrade their phone. many people around me still using S3, saying no need to upgrade to S4. the same with ip5,... many i ask them, they say why need to upgrade to ip5s???

but people still using 2/3 gen back model will definitely looking at the latest model (S4, note3, XZ1,...)

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 8 2013, 04:53 PM)
Definitely. smile.gif But surely those cons will appear in review soon, especially the screen panel where Sony can give great panel in ZU but why not Z1. Does not make sense right? unless Z1 is low end / middle range phone.
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no doubt. reviewers hate bad viewing angle phone

well, y sony chose to go a step back puzzles me as well...
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post Sep 9 2013, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 9 2013, 01:01 AM)
Just found out the hands-on video by lowyat - Local announcement.

The viewing angle issue also happen there. The phone turn washout start timing from 0:09 onwards.


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err... maybe it's just me, but i think it looks ok when he tilted the phone. but at the extreme angle when he showing the speaker, then yes, the colour washout. but who will view the phone at that angle?
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 9 2013, 01:19 AM)
I can immediately notice once he turn down the phone, the color is different.

Maybe I am now using same wallpaper, so I can obvious spot the entire screen is much white out. You all can YouTube search Z1 vs Z Ultra, then you will notice the different.
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just wait and see the actual demo unit better tongue.gif
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QUOTE(diesterntaler @ Sep 9 2013, 01:24 AM)
lol, so basically we'll just discuss this viewing angle thingy in the entire thread until this phone comes out here.
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haha... dejavu? history repeats as in XZ thread????

Andrewtst, i think u've proven your point thus far (it's already few pages on this viewing angle matter). let's just move on to other issue/matter and wait till the actual demo unit comes out first. then everyone can judge for themselve.
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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 9 2013, 09:20 AM)
i've shortlisted my next android phone, note3  / z1 / nex 5/... can only pick 1.... cause ip5s will b my next ....

at first plan to go for z1 then only nex5 and note 3... the panel issue that andrew mention makes me think twice... he got the point on that specially when u want to play games that need to move twist around the screen when control....some more i always share with my wife some funny youtube movie where posted at facebook...
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advise still the same. if u r in no hurry, wait till all the phones are launched, go test out the demo unit and judge for yourself and see if those issues matters to u.
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QUOTE(ole_solskjaer @ Sep 9 2013, 10:48 AM)
any of u considering the new LG G2? hehe..seems like a good flagship from LG..
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spec wise looks promising. but really have no idea how's the quality and support from LG cos not one of my fren/family using LG phone
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 9 2013, 11:36 AM)
if u want LG G2, might as well wait for Nexus 5 since it's made by LG
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true. at least no worries on updates!
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 9 2013, 11:37 AM)
Update I agree.

But releasing flagships within 3-4 months - a lot company is doing now, include Sony & Samsung.
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is it???

as far as i can remember...

Samsung true flagship model - Galaxy S series, release 1 per year (excluding those variations)
Galaxy Note series (though diff segment as in the phablet segment) - release 1 per year

Sony tends to release 2 flagship models per year
2012 - Xperia S & Xperia TX
2013 - Xperia Z & Xperia Z1, new addition on the phablet segment XZU

HTC... as i know 1 true flagship per year
2012 - HTC One X
2013 - HTC One, new addition to phablet segment HTC One Max
though HTC are know to release refreshed version of their flagship as in HTC One X+
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 9 2013, 12:21 PM)
Is not 3 to 4 months, around 5 to 6 months then, me wrong calculate just before.

No need separate so many segment, phone or phablet end up still a phone.

For year 2013

  • Samsung - 2 (S4 & Note 3)
  • Sony - 3 (Z, Z Ultra & Z1)
  • HTC - 2 for now, maybe soon 3 (One & Butterfly S)
  • LG - 2 (Optimus G Pro & G2)
I don't see a lot for LG also, it seems Sony had one more this year than others.
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butterfly s also consider flagship ka?
is it release yet in m'sia? seems so quiet for a flagship model tongue.gif
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