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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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post Sep 7 2013, 10:27 PM

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personally i think the bezel just nice..because u know la they wanna clip the QX lenses ma laugh.gif
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post Sep 8 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 7 2013, 11:18 PM)
Thin bezel make the screen look bigger.

Bezel too thick will eventually affecting viewing and it look smaller than it suppose.
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haha i guess i am d only 1 fine with thick or thin bezel. It won't affect my user experience.
of coz it look good if thin whistling.gif
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post Sep 8 2013, 10:44 PM

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Everyone have their own opinion and preference. but I do agree if the thread is all about complaining the viewing angle based on few review and not own eye confirmation, it is pretty pointless and bored yawn.gif

p/s the few units i play on the launch event all no viewing angle issue. In fact I recorded a hands on video of the phone and havent upload to youtube smile.gif
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post Sep 8 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 8 2013, 11:02 PM)
I am waiting it get release and test out myself and compare it with Z Ultra if that time Z Ultra still with me, or else I will base on my remembrance on how Z Ultra suppose look. Hehe...
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ya just go and try... maybe Sony really screw up by having difference screen manufacture and some are worst tft screen

maybe only tongue.gif

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post Sep 8 2013, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 8 2013, 11:08 PM)
Ya maybe, actually I got seen a user post at gfans, he display around 6 units of Z1 and OMG! all 6 units Z1 behave different quality, some is good, some is bad. I forgot to save down the link or the photo, lazy to search it back.
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i see i see... hmm.gif
Hopefully Malaysia set is d best 1. I just manage poisoned few of my friends who i brought them to launch.
One of them just told me she kena Z1 poisoned and now she hate her Note 2 by looking at it LOL
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post Sep 8 2013, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 8 2013, 11:26 PM)
I found the different panel quality of the person post Z1 already, he said all those is pre-production.

Hope final product don't be that many different panel appear. If yes, then Sony phone is given to more manufacture to release it. As this look like quality control is not really there.

In general, Z got 2 type panel, Z Ultra got 3 type panel base on user respond.

user posted image

http://bbs.gfan.com/forum.php?mod=viewthre...&extra=page%3D3
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the bottom left 1 seem the best..bright and not warm tongue.gif
pray hard Sony don;t screw up. I am waiting them on par with Samsung and create good rivalry..just like last time Nokia and SE laugh.gif
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post Sep 8 2013, 11:32 PM

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According to GSM Arena

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The display is tack sharp and has great colors too. A weak point for Sony displays used to be poor viewing angles but starting with the Xperia Z Ultra and now the Xperia Z1 Sony has resolved the issue.

The display is still on the glossy side, which hurts its sunlight legibility. We'll have to take it to our lab to get accurate measurements though.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_ifa...eview-977p3.php

and here some demo of the camera



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post Sep 8 2013, 11:47 PM

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the video by Android Police doesnt seem got viewing angle problem for me D: hmm.gif

EDITED : from the web yes lol

Well, gotta wait till early oct to confirm with my own eye again


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post Sep 9 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 9 2013, 09:20 AM)
i've shortlisted my next android phone, note3  / z1 / nex 5/... can only pick 1.... cause ip5s will b my next ....

at first plan to go for z1 then only nex5 and note 3... the panel issue that andrew mention makes me think twice... he got the point on that specially when u want to play games that need to move twist around the screen when control....some more i always share with my wife some funny youtube movie where posted at facebook...
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lol what? NEX 5 is a camera wor laugh.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 9 2013, 10:47 AM)
i think he meant nexus 5 lol
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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 9 2013, 10:50 AM)
oh...i mean nexus 5...
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Ohh okayyy notworthy.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:26 AM

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Hands On from Soya Cincau



and the QX100


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post Sep 9 2013, 07:01 PM

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Personally I like to shoot in 4:3 format (in my Olympus PEN) and also 3:2 (in DLSR). Never bother to shoot in 16:9 laugh.gif

Reason being is more pixels in those format compare with 16:9
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QUOTE(dc28yk @ Sep 9 2013, 09:44 PM)
With that I think i can buy both the lumia and z1.. haha
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Lumia kenot win QX100 whistling.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Sep 9 2013, 10:15 PM)
can in low light with the help of xenon flash  laugh.gif
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itu..itu..penipu scammer! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 10 2013, 09:52 AM)
More camera shoot out! Xperia Z1 against the HTC One, iPhone 5, LG G2, Lumia 925 and Galaxy S4

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/09/xperi...-s4/#more-17525
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That's the post processing I am talking about that day. Details smudged

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post Sep 10 2013, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 10 2013, 10:09 AM)
for this macro shot... i dunno la. if look at the full size pic, all the camera focus on the beak of the purple creature on the right. but for Z1, it's clearly focused on the center blue creature. so when zoom in to the beak of the purple creature, sure looks blur la.
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Blur and smudge is dif lor..
see my photo I taken that day at launch

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Compare with my Sony HX50V (same 20mp and sensor size) which zoom to forgot how many

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Anyway just my opinion.
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post Sep 10 2013, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 10 2013, 10:26 AM)
sweat.gif then i really no idea what u mean.
not really into photography. only know about picture sharpness, brightness, and noise level
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what I am saying, the Z1 will smudge the details compare with my Sony HX50v camera (who has the same camera sensor, megapixel, bionz processing).

Nevermind la it is just me feel it is not right to smudge those details laugh.gif
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 10 2013, 10:46 AM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
same processor different output?
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Lens difference
Same processor but probably software also difference

Hope Sony don't screw up this big time sweat.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 10 2013, 10:49 AM)
Both camera pictures have heavy Noise reduction processing, applies to 99% cameras in the world if you shoot with JPEG with reasonable NR. The higher the noise reduction applied, the lesser details you get.

Looking at the two pictures: Z1 shoots at ISO400 while HX50V shoots at ISO800

Also, I feel that there's some camera shake when you were taking the shot with your HX50V, at a long zoom shooting at only 1/25 is definitely going to significantly increase the effects of handshake, UNLESS you're on a steady tripod.
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EDITED : So the NR and NF is damn high in Z1? lol

I off NR and NF in all my camera. I don't bother on noise since I prefer it to be sharp.
And true I had hand shake on d long zoom since the HX50V can zoom till 720mm sweat.gif

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 10 2013, 11:14 AM)
What's NF?

High Noise Reduction is almost always applied to especially smaller sensor cameras, if not, you will vomit blood if you see any picture higher than ISO100 [in lower light situations] with your tiny 1/2.3" sensor. Even on the top enthusiast compacts with 1/1.63" sensors like the Lumix LX7, Canon G series or the Olympus XZ series, there is still significant NR on the JPEGs to make it usable at higher ISO

And if not mistaken, you can't turn off NR when shooting JPEGs. Even on my DSLR the only access I have to is the Long Exposure Noise reduction and NR on high ISO
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NF = Noise Filter

Yes compact camera can't turn off but can lower it like my HX50V

user posted image

and my Olympus can turn it off

user posted image

Now you mentioned I can only conclude Z1 probably use high NR. My bad coz usually I turn it off. That's why I am not used to seeing it.

QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 10 2013, 11:19 AM)
It's blur because the guy most likely is moving.

Just look at the shutter settings of 1/25. That is very insanely slow. Not to mention there is no Optical Image Stabilizer.

The slowest I would dare go on my SLR with IS is 1/60, and that is with a very good IS. Without IS I won't go anywhere below 1/100 on the wide angle.
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Depend what you're shooting and the equipment setup. If static object/subject I can shoot with 1/10-1/30 handheld. I have steady hand as long as the lens is not long and heavy.

The guy (Jason Smith) is static when I am shooting him. It is my hand shake from the long zoom.


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