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marfccy
post Aug 21 2014, 04:52 AM

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okay so here goes, my plans for a DIY home NAS
> planning to setup home NAS using a cheap PC deal that i MIGHT be able to get
> old C2D or Celeron, 4GB DDR2 RAM, more than sufficient. ill just find a decent sized casing that supports 4 drives at least (i think its a microserver, HP7800 or HP7900 series)
> assuming they have enough SATA ports to support the amount of drives i plan to put, i might change to a 2 drive NAS setup instead of my original 4
> planning to boot it using FreeNAS through a pendrive boot (is this okay?)
> planning to throw in 1x4TB WD Green or Red atm, before expanding to more in future
> main purpose is for entertainment/media streaming and my regular PC data backup

okay now question time

1. How do i setup the NAS based on my network? This is what i think it is atm
PC<LAN cable/wireless<Router/Modem>LAN port>NAS
This is the usual setup right? hmm.gif


2. Using Maxis 10Mbps FTTH with default router atm, im quite concerned on how much will the bandwidth be eaten during my regular backups to the NAS as i have other family members using the same connection as well. Not to mention, what are my achievable read/write speeds through the NAS? is it extremely dependent on the Internet im currently subscribed to? Will be using this to stream FHD movies and standard MP3/FLAC songs.


really sorry for asking stupid questions and for spoon feeding, but i need a crash course regarding setting up a DIY NAS (been reading for days and hours but my mind seems to be ughh)


i would appreciate it alot too if someone is willing to take the time to recommend and guide me on DIY NAS. or even a better choice version in the event DIY isnt so feasible

i used to eye the WD MYCloud quite alot, but then the lack of expansion and upgradability puts me off

EDIT: might be setting up the NAS in a different floor of my router too, by connecting through Homeplugs. what are the issues that may arise from this setup?

This post has been edited by marfccy: Aug 21 2014, 05:14 AM
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post Aug 21 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 21 2014, 07:07 AM)
If your cheap PC deal (whole system without HDD) is cheaper than RM400 then it's good to go, otherwise source for AMD APU m-ITX board and Bitfenix ITX chassis is a better choice IMO (that's my future setup as well). This save space with small chassis and able to house up to 5 HDDs, or maybe add another with 5.2" to 3.5" mod at the removable drive compartment, AMD APU with 4x SATA + 1 SATA RAID card with 2x SATA, and you're good to go with 6x SATA, sounds good yeah brows.gif And it's cheap (around RM800).

And yes you can boot FreeNAS through USB pendrive. For me, I choose Windows Home Server, cost quite a bit but I can put all the Windows' programs into it, choose what I like to use on it, IRC client for download purpose?  wink.gif

You can add-on drive(s) in the future but you may not be able to utilize RAID, RAID construction will need to clean off all the drive before it start.

1. Just connect your NAS to your network anyway you prefer, but wired is recommended for stability and performance.

2. LAN does not concern your Internet, so your NAS will only runs in your LAN, and won't connect to the Internet unless you set the Gateway (point to your Maxis router).
Your NAS to your other device speed will be greatly depends on your equipment, your router probably only runs off 100Mbps LAN so you get only around 11MB/s at peak transfer between NAS to a single device.
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its an entire PC system afaik, for about <RM100 (if i secure the deal la) laugh.gif

sadly, it seems theres only 2 SATA ports or 3 max from what i heard about the specs

ouch, 11MB/s for writing? read wise? shouldnt have any prob streaming 1080p movies and anime right?

thankfully, ill be the only hardcore user atm
marfccy
post Aug 21 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 21 2014, 01:50 PM)
You can add-on SATA card into the system for more. wink.gif
As for the speed, yes it's enough for Full HD streaming... on single device, if 2nd user also want to stream Full HD then it might not be as smooth.
Gigabit switch is cheap... whistling.gif
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so the Gigabit switch will be connected from router's Gigabit LAN and sort of spread out for multiple LAN users?

using this Technicolour router from Maxis, i think there is another Gigabit LAN port right?
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post Aug 21 2014, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 21 2014, 03:56 PM)
hmm.gif I'm not so sure about the specification of the router but I can guarantee you will NOT regret spending on Gigabit performance, hitting hard disk bottleneck is another issue though. Transfer file like a breeze, 40MB file? You won't even see the transfer popup, just a flash through, few GBs in a minute...  whistling.gif
I did a transfer of 1.7TB in 8 hours... that's how fast Gigabit speed is, and yeah, the hard disk is kinda slow, between 60~80MB/s only sweat.gif
If you have SSD.. Gigabit LAN is the bottleneck, well.. new tech is kinda expensive so... we shall wait wink.gif
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this is the model name Technicolor TG784n v3

the specs said there is an extra Gigabit Ethernet port (ill need to manually inspect to make sure its there though)

using SSD as NAS? laugh.gif thats insane
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post Aug 22 2014, 03:21 AM

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wildwestgoh

say if im using a 200Mbps Homeplug connected through gigabit ethernet from router to my NAS at other floor, will the speeds be throttled by the Homeplugs? hmm.gif
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post Aug 22 2014, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 22 2014, 07:41 AM)
Only 200Mbps? The spec itself is already bottleneck, going max theoretically 23MB/s so you won't fully utilize the Gigabit switch. There's some much powerful one out there, if you don't mind to spend more... well that depends on your usage. sweat.gif

I don't mind drilling holes and pulling cables in my home, one of my friend even want to use Cat6 cable of which is overkill, but I'll advise him again. doh.gif

@Homeplug sifu out there: Is there a risk of using Homeplug when there's lightning/thunder? Because even the phone line able to fry a modem...  sweat.gif My experience of see-ing my own modem hit by lightning and sparks lits up the room shocking.gif luckily the whole house was blackout (due to trip) before huge one hits it, otherwise my PC would have gone with it as well. cry.gif
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there is a 500MBps one, but ofc more expensive

drill holes? still living with parents, anything that destroys house aesthetics is extremely forbidden :/
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post Aug 31 2014, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Aug 30 2014, 12:46 PM)
actually what's the best way to stream movies that i've downloaded to the tv? say i store them on a NAS. get an android box as well?
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either HTPC or media player only afaik
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post Aug 31 2014, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Aug 31 2014, 12:31 AM)
media player like roku/apple tv?
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yep, WD Media player, Android box, AppleTV etc etc

provided they can access into your NAS through LAN or wireless
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post Mar 28 2016, 02:36 AM

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just bought DLINK-327L, first time NAS user here running under JBOD with two random 1TB disk lying about

cant believe got stuck while installing/setup for 30mins cause Windows Firewall blocking device although enabled doh.gif

backing up files atm, but such slow sweat.gif shouldve known better than chucking in multiple 2-3GB files in one shot
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post Sep 4 2016, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jul 7 2016, 09:31 AM)
I don't know whats wrong with my transfer file from my pc to NAS which only 8MB/s

Modem/Router - Unifi RG4332

PC - ASRock > H61M-GS
LAN - PCIE x1 Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s

NAS - http://www.dlink.com/uk/en/support/product...orage-enclosure
Interfaces:
•    1x 10/100/1000 Mbps auto MDIX Gigabit Ethernet
•    1x USB 2.0 port
•    2x SATA II 3.5 HDD interfaces
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did you plug in to correct gigabit LAN port in router?

did you setup the NAS with encrypted mode on? (this one for me back then throttled me the most for my DLink NAS)

in the end went non-encrypted and voila, back full speed

 

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