NETWORK ATTACHED STORAGE (NAS) V2
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 May 14 2020, 09:14 PM
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Hi guys, NAS virgin here.
Just to confirm that between dedicated NAS like Synology vs DIY NAS, the Synology system offers a much easier experience to set everything up, more user friendly and all has all the productivity tools, etc? By DIY NAS, I actually think a pc = NAS? Since there is a HDD in the pc and the is connected to the internet, so the PC can be turned into a NAS? This post has been edited by -kytz-: May 14 2020, 10:17 PM |
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May 15 2020, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Mar 13 2020, 12:55 AM) When you need to have access on the storage immediately irregardless on the time or place, no matter for reading files in it or writing files into it. What are your need for storage currently? Thank you for the detailed explanation. Not sure if I require an NAS though. I currently use cloud storage to actually store some of my personal documents (bad practice I know) as it is quite convenient as I know I can access it anytime on the cloud. I store a lot of other stuff as well like budgeting/financial planning, some daily notes here, photos and videos here and there.NAS is useful if you and your family members have plenty of devices, such as PC, laptop, tablet, phone and you want all devices to have access on the same storage to read or write. Imagine like having Dropbox / Google Drive on all your devices but with a lot bigger storage and much faster upload / download speed. Some also have productivity apps similar to Words, Excel and PowerPoint so you can do your work too. There's also apps for multimedia content such as music player, photo viewer, video player. NAS also able to create personal storage for each ID so that everyone can have their own private storage. If you just need a storage space to be available for short time duration, maybe just few hours everyday, you doesn't necessarily need to have NAS then. You can use your PC and share the storage drive into the network. If you need protection to your data such as RAID, windows 10 also able to do RAID for PC. Having your PC turn on for few hours everyday is much more saving on electricity than having NAS running 24/7. If you just need storage space available all the time but the data is not important and publicly available to anyone connected on the network, if drive failure data loss also not a issue, such as video or music files that you can stream to whichever devices you currently using. You can attach external drive to your router, most newer router have USB port to plug in drive. The router then can be set to make the storage available on the network. This is the cheapest way to have centralized storage.  I considered NAS due to the private nature of it where no one can look into files unlike the popular cloud storages as I am trying to improve my online privacy. But at the same time, I'm concerned that the NAS would be susceptible to power outtage, internet downtime and maybe even theft/breaking down as it's a physical unit in my house. I also discovered I forgot about zero-knowledge cloud storages like Sync (based in Canada) or other zero knowledge cloud storages not based in the US. I just want to make sure no one has access to my files even though I have nothing to hide. Any thoughts on these zero knowledge cloud storages? Question: I know zero knowledge cloud storages can shut down and thus I will lose all the data but let's say if Synology goes bust, the NAS can still operate since it is a computer with its own operating system? Off topic: It's not possible to have a 100% private online life while still using Google services and Facebook right? I don't think I would go to the extent of not using Google services and facebook. But taking certain measures like controlling what info I share/don't share online (Facebook), constantly reviewing app permissions on my android phone, using a VPN, private browser, private cloud storage/NAS, I can minimise my digital footprint and improve my privacy. But if the government or NSA decides to target me (I think I may be paranoid here) for whatever reason I don't think I can escape at all? Are all these measures futile then? Sorry for the off topic This post has been edited by -kytz-: May 15 2020, 10:00 AM |
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May 16 2020, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 15 2020, 11:03 AM) Yes the box set NAS is more easier to set up as they cater to as many different level of consumer IT knowledge. Thank you DIY NAS is more of online community effort, something like linux. DIY NAS is PC since using same hardware, but it is not Windows. Although you can use Windows to be the OS but since it have many other main software it is not so efficient, plus more risk to be infected by virus or malware.  Now I understand why it's not advisable to turn your existing PC into an NAS due to the issues you have mentioned QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 15 2020, 11:03 AM) Usually after using NAS only you start to realized the many functions it can offer. Like recently I find ways to backup my phone data to NAS, not just image and video but make backup of Titanium Backup folder and other apps folder. Since I don't want the backup app to have full access of all my data in NAS, I create a User/account ID that can only read and write in the backup folder. Now night time before sleep I just run the backup app and charge my phone, morning time see it already complete the backup. 1) Just curious all the data streaming/downloads from the NAS are secure?When you feel cloud storage is not enough space to place your files and you need to pay to get additional space, that would be a good time to start using NAS. To avoid power outage you can use UPS, I feel it is a must to have UPS as power outage is bad for HDD, you files might be corrupted or worse HDD damage because of outage. NAS is same as cloud storage, it is just a place to hold your data, it's not a backup, you always should follow 3-2-1 backup rule, keep at least three (3) copies of your data, and store two (2) backup copies on different storage media, with one (1) of them located offsite, so if theft stole your NAS you still have your backup. Zero knowledge cloud storage disadvantage is if you forgot the key then all you data will be bye bye. Even the cloud service provider can't help you on it. You can turn normal cloud storage to be something similar to zero knowledge storage by manually encrypting your files before uploading, that way only you have the key to decrypt those files. You mean if Synology company goes bust? Yeah the NAS still can use, just no more update. Same like if Microsoft goes bust but we still can use Windows 10 Human right is a joke in Malaysia, so if the govt target you they can force you to tell the password, like the current case of an actor and radio personality. 2) Thanks for the UPS suggestion as well. Any brands to look at? 3) I'm thinking of getting the Synology DS220J (2 bays) and to do RAID 1 as I read that this is to prevent data loss? So let's say 1TB + 1TB = only 1TB is usable.. 4) Your thoughts on getting an already built up NAS vs DIY NAS (using maybe a rasberry Pi 4 + freeNAS)? I assume DIY NAS would be able to give higher performance compared to Synology/Qnep at the same price? For DIY NAS, would I still be able to just upload/download/stream files through an app on my phone, easily share files with friends/family  3) A question for what to keep in the NAS: I should only keep files that i use frequently on the NAS right? I was thinking of just dumping everything into the NAS including files/media that is only meant to be kept as backup (i won't access it unless something happens) This post has been edited by -kytz-: May 16 2020, 05:49 PM |
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