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jAkUn
post Aug 21 2013, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 21 2013, 11:57 PM)
Sifu since you are professional can you teach us if I have emergency while I am not stationery,  car trouble due to overheat so drive slowly, warn driver if foggy situation how to be caution?

Can I high beam others to warm them?
Can I signal left and right to warm them?
Can I drive left and right?
Can i put my hands out of my Windows and keep waving at pp
Can i keep pressing brake to warm them?l

Please enlighten us the best cause of action for the above since you are professional so future I can share your professionalism with others .

Teng kiu ah sifu professional
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Aug 22 2013, 12:01 AM)
no need to be sarcastic

hazard lights is only for stationary vehicle,

car trouble overheat slowdown also no use, u need to stop anyway

dont be another idiot
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post Aug 21 2013, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 22 2013, 12:09 AM)
sound like you are another spoil brat talking kok? so whats the solution?

Sifu just because you have never own a car or have your parents pay for your car does not mean u can talk kok.

For a sifu maybe you do not know. If you car died at some places that no phone reception or nobody come to help thats is a solution. Middle of the night someone waving in the dark do you think anyone will just stop somemore based on your professional cannot use hazard light. Care to share with us the solution.

Drive slowly to a nearest petrol station or somewhere that can ask for help.
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kindly explain what kind of troubles that you have to keep driving??

car overheat > have to stop
car electrical problem, lampu gone > use the signal, use left. if want to turn, use right side.


summore, if your car die, how the fucuk you can move that car??
stationary = not moving
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post Aug 21 2013, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 22 2013, 12:17 AM)
acterly not all cases.. I did learn with my previous old wira when fan kaput before.. driving at 70-80 or higher can bring the temp down as reflected by the temp gauge.. natural cooling ma.. biggrin.gif
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yes, jalan slow2 can reduce the temp since fans kaput. but it will happen again if stall in traffic jams.
for new car, big no-no. fans kaput, engine overheat, overhaul je lah jawabnye..

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 22 2013, 12:19 AM)
Do you think 1 light can save you? I really no comment.

Since when i said the car died i said overheat sifu professional.

So high speed at 120 to 150 signal right slowly can save you? damn kao pro thats why you are the one of the cause of the accident.

The sifu havent answer us please we waiting for ity
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i refer to this statement
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For a sifu maybe you do not know. If you car died at some places that no phone reception or nobody come to help thats is a solution. Middle of the night someone waving in the dark do you think anyone will just stop somemore based on your professional. Care to share with us the solution.


why need to keep driving if overheat lorrr.. really tak paham your scenario at all.
car overheat, see the alert on meter panel, slow down, give signal to the left to pull over, stop at emergency lane, open hazard signal, open front hood, pretend to make phone call.

haiyooo.. car overheat 150kmh, lagi mau pecut ke?

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post Aug 21 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 22 2013, 12:22 AM)
this is malaysia what you said cause so many accident in malaysia. Today itself i saw 10 accidents including the one at genting. Because of some drivers do not know what to do this what happen.

Last week my friend hit a motocyclist because of that because of our sifu professional advice. Signal right the motor still come along the side. Flew into the middle of the road. Lorry nearly hit it.

When malaysian see signal light they dont stop they accelerate. Do you think i will listen to our sifu professional advice just because he do not have practical life experience?
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org sembang pasal kereta, ko sembang pasal motor.
motor mana ada hazard light!! vmad.gif
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post Aug 21 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(sya_cd @ Aug 22 2013, 12:31 AM)
wow ppl dead and you eat popcorn  doh.gif  doh.gif
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die makan popcorn sbb tgk /k melayan abg aspire.
apalah cepat sgt conclusion
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post Aug 21 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Aug 22 2013, 12:36 AM)
abg /k almost surrender d....

but i made a special tered he no come  laugh.gif
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haha.. kita layankan je dulu.. brows.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Aug 22 2013, 01:09 AM)
it could be lost of brake. even the best driver can't do anything one... i lost my brake in genting before and we were thrown inside the car due to the bump. luckily it came back.
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haha! agreed!
my brake overheat ady when i was downhill, before reaching the post before the roundabout at goh tong.
when i realized it, i have to downshift to gear 2, to gear 1 just to get the stall, and shift it back to gear 2, keep pressing the brakes, eventhough the grip is not totally lost, it keeps going, after the sharp S corner reaching the guard post, i pull the handbrake, wait till the bump slows us down, and i managed to stop on the left side road. wait till half an hour, test for few metres, and drive slowly. really sked during that time.

since then, i always go for mid-end, not cheap, nor inexpensive brake pad. keep my disc skimmed if bengkok.
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post Aug 22 2013, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 22 2013, 01:42 AM)
You know it is not your brake problem? But your skill problem.
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tell me about it sport!
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post Aug 22 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 22 2013, 11:30 AM)
Handbrake is the same brake as pedal brake just for the back wheels, so maybe not the brake pad but the brake hydraulics overheated?
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handbrake is not the same as pedal brake, as it can throw your rear even if your car bending a lil, and lil faster.

brake hydraulics did not overheat, unless its leaking, or the brake fluid cap ayam can vaporize easily.

as for brake failure, for cheap brake pad, it cannot withstand too much heat, hence explaining the loss of grip to the disc.
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"Brake fade" is a condition caused by overheating in which braking effectiveness reduces, and may be lost. It may occur for many reasons. The pads which engage the rotating part may become overheated and "glaze over", becoming so smooth and hard that they cannot grip sufficiently to slow the vehicle. Also, vaporization of the hydraulic fluid under temperature extremes or thermal distortion may cause the linings to change their shape and engage less surface area of the rotating part. Thermal distortion may also cause permanent changes in the shape of the metal components, resulting in a reduction in braking capability that requires replacement of the affected parts.

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post Aug 22 2013, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Aug 22 2013, 11:43 AM)
When going downhill happens all the time where people got jam break bcos of overheat and overuse (normal as ppl common sense use break)
Just an advice dont keep using the break but use a lower gear to drag the car and press the break on n off NOT continously.
Especially when bringing heavy load/more passenger the break pad works even harder.
The overload of the bus + the wearing out of break pad might be the main course this time.
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buses, trucks use air brakes. most of the major cause of air brakes failure is due to the poor maintenance.

http://www.canadianunderwriter.ca/news/put...ure/1000212839/

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MAINTENANCE OVERLOOKED

Air brakes are typically used on buses, trucks, tractors and other heavy-duty vehicles; they require constant inspection and attention to ensure proper operation and performance. However, statistics show that air brake maintenance and adjustment is often overlooked.

Brake malfunction accounted for 56.6% of out-of-service violations cited during roadside inspections. This was followed by lights (11.1%), loading (9.3%) and tires/wheels (8.5%), according to a 2004 study by the Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA), a Washington, D.C.-based association of state, provincial and federal officials that administers and enforces motor carrier safety laws in Canada, Mexico and the United States.

It's not surprising, then, that air brake deficiency is cited as one of the major factors in truck crashes, according to the 2006 Large Truck Crash Causation Study, conducted by the U.S. Department of Transportation's (DOT) Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

In the category of "all trucks involved in crashes nationwide by specific factors," the study shows that brake deficiency was cited in 37,000 (or 26% of) vehicle crashes. This compares with crashes resulting from prescription drug use (26%), travelling too fast for conditions (23%), weather-related factors (14%), fatigue (13%), aggressive driving (7%), jackknife events (5%), cargo shift (4%) or engine, fuel system or exhaust deficiency (1%). It should be noted that multiple causes could be cited for a single crash.

It's unclear whether these crashes could have been prevented with proper air brake maintenance, but maintenance is only part of the picture. Industry surveys repeatedly determine that truck drivers and mechanics need more education and awareness of how air braking systems operate and how to inspect and maintain them.

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post Aug 22 2013, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Aug 22 2013, 11:57 AM)
deswai some cars install parachute to reduce speed and increase drag...

oh waii..
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imagining buses with loads of passengers, downhill, cornering, with parachute behind.. hmm.gif

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