you not gonna win

Proton advertises with the rating, cause they are proud of it (and they should be). Toyota is like... psssst... don't mention, don't let customers think about safety and look for a rating cause it's not good...

thanks you ignorance bashers

come on la, ppl will still buy VIOS if they dont even got 1 star ancap rating la...
all is not about safety rating when compare proton with toyota..
it's all about ah beng wannabe

I bought a new sarcasm detector today, but when i opened this thread the thing immediately exploded.

IMO, it is the same everywhere. You get one stuff cheap, you get another thing expensive.

Here are stuff which is more expensive in Australia than in Malaysia. This is just from googling:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/...2-1226677641006
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...lia-cost-living
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2013/...ive-place-study
http://www.smh.com.au/travel/blogs/the-bac...0326-2gr6q.html
http://www.news.com.au/money/cost-of-livin...v-1226630603809

Part of it is due to the Australian economy is very dependent on natural resources, and part of it is due to the strict food control. Cannot bring any stuff into Australia, they just throw it away at customs. That way Australia can maintain the high prices. Been there, so I know.

Yes, Malaysians pay a lot for cars, but we purchase it once every 5-10 years. We don't purchase McD once every 7 years. Labour is cheap.

I think it is more of give and take. Some things more expensive, some things less expensive.

Back to cars. Here is what happening to Australia cars ATM:
http://www.news.com.au/business/holden-bos...i-1226698663952
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-a...y-1226702474062

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/...0823-2sgrt.html

Sorry if Malaysians are being patriotic and willing to show support for national brand. If you don't do that, that Ford/Holden Australian future is something Malaysia will become. You cannot blindly put faith in a business, that goes with Proton as well. Actually improvements are coming at a time when people have deserted proton for Toyota, Honda etc. Proton waking up from slumber. If Honda, Toyota, Nissan continue with their current trend, they too will relinquish their market position to Kia/Hyundai. It also shows, Aussies don't care about Holden/Ford that much then. Maybe its the Aussie culture or maybe that is just pure capitalism. Or, Holden and Ford not really Aussie made products in the first place. Both come from US. So if they die also, no problem for Australia, except the factory workers/people directly involved in those brands. Also, AFAIK, no car company, local/overseas has closed shop in Malaysia yet. I may be wrong though.

So Top Gear Australia is not that smart using a SNR3, that goes to the thousands of Jumbuck owners.
It is easy to criticize others, but make sure you have points to back it up. Otherwise, someone will come and dismantle those points.

Must be made by Proton

I thought China product will only explode?

if by dollar to dollar, they pay much lesser than us for almost all of the thing.

example a waitress earn 10 dollar a hours and can get 2 big mac in Australia, and here you earn 5 dollar as a waitress and cant even enjoy a big mac.

Thank you for correcting me.

The cost of living is high there. Same like UK. 1 hour can already buy 2 big macs. But everything else is expensive.

In the uk, cars don't cost that much but their insurance is so extensive and will take into account every imaginable facet of your life like ur age, colour of your car, your job, where you park your car, your street address which in turn can spike the premiums.. Petrol is no cheap either and with congestion charges and all.. When I lived there, the then labour gov wanted to tax cars based on the amount of km's it travelled as ways to reduce carbon footprint. It can be summarised that the running cost of owning a car can only go northwards there

Hm. I disagree. Labour, and anything connected to labour is expensive. So going to a restaurant... prepare to spend at least RM 40 (cooking yourself is affordable though). Calling a contractor? Forget about it, fix your damn house yourself I was once quoted around RM 8000 for something to do on our house. I ended up ordering the parts online and installed it myself for around RM 1000? Fix your car yourself if possible, cause workshops will make you bleed (not the spare parts, just the labour). But products are affordable. Food ingredients, TVs, cars, computer parts, ... despite the high taxes they are quite affordable (perhaps due to everyone just ordering electronics etc. online... so lots of shops are competing with each other).

sorry ho.. i am driving ...... GTR. haha. PROTON? they are my ATM. hahaha.

this comment is the Best so FAR!

Dear all,
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but just pretend for a moment that all things being equal, and Proton is selling a C segment car as with every other vendor. And at most, Proton is only receiving a mere '30%' advantage from import duty (http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm). And lets set a constant of 120k for most C sec car.

Proton * 1.3 = 120000
Proton = 92300

So technically, Proton has a leeway to jack it up to 92k and pack more stuff in and bring more destruction to their opponents. Since critics are always saying Proton got ridiculous advantage. But of course, all things being equal.

This calc is most probably...terribly wrong in more than 1 way. Please focus the bashing on the math and not the person, shouldnt be that hard right....right? '

I got nothing against proton .

I am actually quite impressed by the new Suprima.

BUT THOSE f***IN COCK SUCKERS JUST HAD TO MAKE A CHINESE AH BENG ADVERTISEMENT

FFS la, insulting the intelligence of the public with their sorry excuse for an advert.

Anyways. Dont like it enough to buy it. Too used to absolute silence in the car while driving. That thing rattles like a train

So what with you are driving a GTR. Did I ask what car you drove?

meaning u care.. HAHAHAHA

yea..when i listen to that ahbeng in adv.. wanna vomit. just want to know what message is that? meaning majority chinese dont buy proton? later ppl will say me racist again. haiz. if u want a good message to consumer do it nicely. people using hard earn money and not to buy car like proton ..er.. what car is that?? proton tiara? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

make my laugh till stomachache.. worst than HOLDEN if u know what car is that..

because i want to tell u what PROTON car is since u dont understand

Kesian proton ken bash everytime when they in the news......japanese car maker makan u terang terang u still ok....insapla...

What do you understand about Proton? Enlighten me with details since you have better understanding than me.